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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 3:55 PM ET
Hintz is 27 years old with almost 500 NHL games regular season and playoffs combined.

If that isn’t a veteran, what is your definition of one ?

The Stars built a cup contender through the draft. Heiskanen, Harley, Johnston, Robertson, Oettinger, Stankoven have been the Stars most important players.

They were able to make up for the fact that Benn and Seguin are making nearly $20M worth of cap to be a rather expensive supporting cast.

- Swedish_Jesus

Benn and Seguin put up 112 points in 150 games this season (tuch and tage put up 115 points in 146 games)

plus 18 between them

16 playoff points between them, 8 ea this season

I do not consider that supporting cast


112 points from 2 guys is supporting and 30 points from another guy is a wet dream
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

May 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Benn and Seguin put up 112 points in 150 games this season (tuch and tage put up 115 points in 146 games)

plus 18 between them

16 playoff points between them, 8 ea this season

I do not consider that supporting cast


112 points from 2 guys is supporting and 30 points from another guy is a wet dream

- homiedclown


Tage and tuch combined salary was what $12M ? I also expect them to come in closer to 140-150 points combined this year since we are no longer playing Kreuger 2.0 hockey with an abhorrent PP
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
Tage and tuch combined salary was what $12M ? I also expect them to come in closer to 140-150 points combined this year since we are no longer playing Kreuger 2.0 hockey with an abhorrent PP
- Swedish_Jesus

so they are only supporting cast because they make 20 mil instead of 12 mil?

never knew that was possible as I always thought performance determined that
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 18 @ 4:36 PM ET
so they are only supporting cast because they make 20 mil instead of 12 mil?

never knew that was possible as I always thought performance determined that

- homiedclown


Neither are as impactful as Benson…..who at one point, was 18.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

May 18 @ 4:57 PM ET
so they are only supporting cast because they make 20 mil instead of 12 mil?

never knew that was possible as I always thought performance determined that

- homiedclown


No, their performance did dictate that. The salary is just the icing on the cake.

Tage and Tuch performing like supporting cast players this year is why we finished where we did. I don’t expect that to continue this year under Lindy and hopefully better injury luck, do you ?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 18 @ 5:03 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com...ld-make-blockbuster-trade
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 18 @ 5:21 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/latest-news/sabres-hurricanes-could-make-blockbuster-trade
- Buff36


Listen to 32 thoughts, take 1, add nothing, call it an article.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 18 @ 5:24 PM ET
Listen to 32 thoughts, take 1, add nothing, call it an article.
- Lunaion

Pretty much, really just put it out there cause of Friedman.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 18 @ 5:29 PM ET
Pretty much, really just put it out there cause of Friedman.
- Buff36


At least thought he'd talk about what an offer would look like.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 18 @ 5:35 PM ET
At least thought he'd talk about what an offer would look like.
- Lunaion

He would be a good get!
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 18 @ 6:16 PM ET
I'd just say Clifton + Johnson are what happened when his top 10 options all fell apart.

Can he land something he actually wants and not panic? That's the question.

- Lunaion


I still consider his 'trying' re: his top options as nothing more then dipping his toe in the waters.

I think he really believed the top line performance from 2 seasons ago was reliable going forward.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 18 @ 6:26 PM ET
I still consider his 'trying' re: his top options as nothing more then dipping his toe in the waters.

I think he really believed the top line performance from 2 seasons ago was reliable going forward.

- kingcong39


I think he thought he had a Pesce trade done last year.

Quinn injury + keeping Olofsson + overpaying the bottom of the lineup....Indefensible.

3G debacle? That's all of him.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 18 @ 6:30 PM ET
I think he thought he had a Pesce trade done last year.

Quinn injury + keeping Olofsson + overpaying the bottom of the lineup....Indefensible.

3G debacle? That's all of him.

- Lunaion

From November 2 years ago until now has been a Debacle! Adams has not done a good job of building is on ice product.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 7:28 PM ET
I’ll be very surprised if Martin Necas plays for Carolina in the next season. As his dad said, Martin wants to play in 1st line & 1st PP unit. His dad even said in an interview for @DenikSport: ,,Martin wants to be traded.” In my eyes, Necas is a great offensive winger.

https://x.com/arhockeysta.../1791721709826974171?s=46

- washedup20


Sign me up for Necas
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 7:35 PM ET
Pretty much, really just put it out there cause of Friedman.
- Buff36


Freidman has been pretty terrible with his rumors.

But what would it cost to get him?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 18 @ 7:41 PM ET
Freidman has been pretty terrible with his rumors.

But what would it cost to get him?

- Sabretooth9

Gotta come with a signed Contract to. Not paying the price if he isn't here atleast 5 years
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 7:45 PM ET
Gotta come with a signed Contract to. Not paying the price if he isn't here atleast 5 years
- Buff36


He’s also an RFA. So Sabres would have some control
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 18 @ 7:53 PM ET
He’s also an RFA. So Sabres would have some control
- Sabretooth9



Eligible for Arbitration, though too, I believe
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 7:57 PM ET
Eligible for Arbitration, though too, I believe
- Powerslave


Yeah, so that’s a win win. He’s also 25.

Can’t find a more perfect player to add.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 18 @ 8:03 PM ET
Yeah, so that’s a win win. He’s also 25.

Can’t find a more perfect player to add.

- Sabretooth9

He's already met his seasons played, so you really don't want to be giving him a 1 year deal. lMO
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 8:03 PM ET
Savoie + 11 + joker

Joker because they need a cheap right handed d

Idk spit balling
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 18 @ 8:33 PM ET
He's already met his seasons played, so you really don't want to be giving him a 1 year deal. lMO
- Buff36


I don't know what you mean about him already meeting his seasons played, but unless I'm missing something, he's got 5 seasons that count towards becoming a UFA, which leaves him with 2 left before becoming a UFA.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 18 @ 8:41 PM ET
I don't know what you mean about him already meeting his seasons played, but unless I'm missing something, he's got 5 seasons that count towards becoming a UFA, which leaves him with 2 left before becoming a UFA.
- kingcong39


Arb years maybe? Don't know, but he's right that you don't want to acquire him and go 1 year.

If KA can acquire him for a reasonable price + get him and Byram signed to reasonable deals, that would change the KA narrative a bit. Tall order.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 18 @ 8:41 PM ET
I don't know what you mean about him already meeting his seasons played, but unless I'm missing something, he's got 5 seasons that count towards becoming a UFA, which leaves him with 2 left before becoming a UFA.
- kingcong39

I thought since he met it in 22-23 he had only 1 year left, my mistake.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 9:04 PM ET
Arb years maybe? Don't know, but he's right that you don't want to acquire him and go 1 year.

If KA can acquire him for a reasonable price + get him and Byram signed to reasonable deals, that would change the KA narrative a bit. Tall order.

- Lunaion


Then you have your core locked up for a long time and have a very good core at that
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