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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 18 @ 9:29 PM ET
just going by history and comparables. he's a 1 year rfa. 50 point winger, more or less.

buchnevich was a 2 and a 4th liner

- TheSabresTaco


2 RFA years, right?

I'm figuring close to DeBrincat.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 9:29 PM ET
13 and 66 got 21 yo Kirby Dach.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 9:33 PM ET
13 and 66 got 21 yo Kirby Dach.
- TheSabresTaco


So basically this shouldn’t be a very hard trade to figure out for Adams

It’s very doable
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 9:33 PM ET
2 RFA years, right?

I'm figuring close to DeBrincat.

- Lunaion


yeah you're right. 5 pro seasons, 2 left.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 9:35 PM ET
2 RFA years, right?

I'm figuring close to DeBrincat.

- Lunaion


Not a bad comparable. I think Necas gets less in return. If it's Sabres, I think a good bet is A prospect and 3rd, or 11 and 3/4
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
So basically this shouldn’t be a very hard trade to figure out for Adams

It’s very doable

- Sabretooth9


of course it is. in theory. the assets are there, and they have been for a while.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 9:39 PM ET
of course it is. in theory. the assets are there, and they have been for a while.
- TheSabresTaco


Yup Adams just needs to pull the trigger on a trade and man up and build a player that will help

Like I said to gerbe before. Numbers game. We have too many prospects.

We can’t keep them all
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 18 @ 9:43 PM ET
Not a bad comparable. I think Necas gets less in return. If it's Sabres, I think a good bet is A prospect and 3rd, or 11 and 3/4
- TheSabresTaco


Maybe. I think he'd get a little more.

Extension is the tougher part.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 9:44 PM ET
Maybe. I think he'd get a little more.

Extension is the tougher part.

- Lunaion


his demands are public. no one's touching him without providing those demands. and in return, long term contract. i think of it like eichel. send somewhere else to make him happy.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 9:45 PM ET
I went to 2 amerks games. I didn’t see anything bad to think he shouldn’t be given a shot in the nhl.

Fix his defensive game (franchise wide issue) not just him

- Sabretooth9

He had a shot. His consistency as a 200' player is not there yet.

He's better than last year.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 9:47 PM ET
weekes says rodbod agreed to a long term deal.

we can put the buyers remorse away now.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 18 @ 9:48 PM ET
his demands are public. no one's touching him without providing those demands. and in return, long term contract. i think of it like eichel. send somewhere else to make him happy.
- TheSabresTaco


Maybe, but that's what kept the DeBrincat return down, imo.

If they can only move him to where he's willing to extend, that's not good for Buffalo.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 9:49 PM ET
He had a shot. His consistency as a 200' player is not there yet.

He's better than last year.

- TheSabresTaco


Yeah like I said. That is a franchise wide issue with our forwards. So I get it.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 9:53 PM ET
weekes says rodbod agreed to a long term deal.

we can put the buyers remorse away now.

- TheSabresTaco


Yeah. That was a pipedream.

I’m still happy with Ruff (not because he used to coach here).
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
Yeah. That was a pipedream.

I’m still happy with Ruff (not because he used to coach here).

- Sabretooth9


same. said it since the get go. he makes sense 10 ways to sunday.

atw keeps whining about berube. i dont get it. can anyone confirm to me why it was so important to hire berube over ruff? is it the cup he won on the back of binnington? or is it because he's not affiliated with buffalo? because the guy's been pedestrian since 20.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 10:17 PM ET
same. said it since the get go. he makes sense 10 ways to sunday.

atw keeps whining about berube. i dont get it. can anyone confirm to me why it was so important to hire berube over ruff? is it the cup he won on the back of binnington? or is it because he's not affiliated with buffalo? because the guy's been pedestrian since 20.

- TheSabresTaco


I have no idea. I guess we can see Berube vs ruff with Sabres leafs
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 18 @ 11:08 PM ET
Then you have your core locked up for a long time and have a very good core at that
- Sabretooth9


Think you'd get vastly different responses about who is the Sabres core.

Let's have fun and say they trade for and extend Necas (5 years, $7M per):

Goal: UPL, Levi
Defense: Dahlin, Power
Forwards: Tage, Tuch, Cozens, Peterka, Quinn, Benson, Necas

Being generous with Tuch considering his age and only having 2 years left on his deal.

That's a lot of forwards with a lot of questions to be answered.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 18 @ 11:10 PM ET
One prognosticator has Necas next deal at 7 years, $7.3M per, while another has it at 8 years, $8.7M per.

The latter is a scary number.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 11:13 PM ET
No, their performance did dictate that. The salary is just the icing on the cake.

Tage and Tuch performing like supporting cast players this year is why we finished where we did. I don’t expect that to continue this year under Lindy and hopefully better injury luck, do you ?

- Swedish_Jesus

I never expect the best from this team

13 years was worn me down

it's like aliens


I want to believe but..........
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 11:13 PM ET
Think you'd get vastly different responses about who is the Sabres core.

Let's have fun and say they trade for and extend Necas (5 years, $7M per):

Goal: UPL, Levi
Defense: Dahlin, Power
Forwards: Tage, Tuch, Cozens, Peterka, Quinn, Benson, Necas

Being generous with Tuch considering his age and only having 2 years left on his deal.

That's a lot of forwards with a lot of questions to be answered.

- kingcong39


I think cozens, tuch, and tage will get fixed by ruff and fixed by a PP that doesn’t suck.

Granato was a terrible coach.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 18 @ 11:16 PM ET
Arb years maybe? Don't know, but he's right that you don't want to acquire him and go 1 year.

If KA can acquire him for a reasonable price + get him and Byram signed to reasonable deals, that would change the KA narrative a bit. Tall order.

- Lunaion


Is $7M per on a term of 5 or more seasons considered a reasonable deal for Necas?

That may be the going rate.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 11:17 PM ET
Is $7M per on a term of 5 or more seasons considered a reasonable deal for Necas?

That may be the going rate.

- kingcong39


If they were willing to pay mitts that amount. Adams would pay that for Necas
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 18 @ 11:18 PM ET
I think he thought he had a Pesce trade done last year.

Quinn injury + keeping Olofsson + overpaying the bottom of the lineup....Indefensible.

3G debacle? That's all of him.

- Lunaion


He's a buffoon if he thought he had a deal done for Pesce with Pesce having a trade clause.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 18 @ 11:21 PM ET
https://www.spotrac.com/n...lo-sabres/cap/_/year/2024

Sabres have 21 million in space.

If you move greenway …. That’s 3 mill

Samualsson getting interest from the flyers is 4.2 million.

Adams could move money / contracts if he had to.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 18 @ 11:21 PM ET
One prognosticator has Necas next deal at 7 years, $7.3M per, while another has it at 8 years, $8.7M per.

The latter is a scary number.

- kingcong39

it's almost as if the cap was going up 4 mil
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