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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 19 @ 8:25 PM ET
On paper. I understood okposos and Erik Johnson signings.

I am not against any “veteran leadership” from a player who is physically shot

- Sabretooth9

player x stinks
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 19 @ 8:28 PM ET
UPL - 4 years, $5.2M per
Jokiharju - 3 years, $4M per

Martin Necas - 8 years, $8.8M per 😬😬😬
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 19 @ 9:13 PM ET
UPL - 4 years, $5.2M per
Jokiharju - 3 years, $4M per

Martin Necas - 8 years, $8.8M per 😬😬😬

- kingcong39


Too much for UPL
Joker - no thanks for that much. Let him go
Necas seems high for his current production
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 19 @ 9:22 PM ET
Too much for UPL
Joker - no thanks for that much. Let him go
Necas seems high for his current production

- Sabretooth9


What do you do?

Do you qualify them? Do you arb them?
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 19 @ 9:34 PM ET
What do you do?

Do you qualify them? Do you arb them?

- Lunaion


Joker - I would let go / trade since he’s an RFA I am not paying my 3rd pairing d that much.
UPL - 2 years 4.5 mill bridge. Cant trust him
Necas - try to get him at 7 mill - I don’t mind paying him.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 19 @ 9:41 PM ET
remember last summer when almost all of you said DeBrincat stunk


well he had more 5 on 5 points this past season than any buffalo sabre
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 19 @ 9:43 PM ET
Joker - I would let go / trade since he’s an RFA I am not paying my 3rd pairing d that much.
UPL - 2 years 4.5 mill bridge. Cant trust him
Necas - try to get him at 7 mill - I don’t mind paying him.

- Sabretooth9



You're assuming that they play him on the 3rd. Adams likes him. The kid had a good year.

You don't trust UPL, but Necas regressed 18 points this year after a 31 point jump the year before.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 19 @ 9:46 PM ET
Joker - I would let go / trade since he’s an RFA I am not paying my 3rd pairing d that much.
UPL - 2 years 4.5 mill bridge. Cant trust him
Necas - try to get him at 7 mill - I don’t mind paying him.

- Sabretooth9


None of these are one sided.

6/25 is the QO deadline. Not a ton of movement before that date, so they probably have to make a decision.

If Joker files for arb, his comps are not 3rd pair. They've never played him as one. Is anyone anxious to trade for him with a pending arb case?

UPL is 2 years from UFA, so I wouldn't consider that a bridge.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 19 @ 9:48 PM ET
You're assuming that they play him on the 3rd. Adams likes him. The kid had a good year.

You don't trust UPL, but Necas regressed 18 points this year after a 31 point jump the year before.

- Powerslave

Joker reminds me of a shorter version of Tallinder

Lindy liked to lean on Hank
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 19 @ 9:50 PM ET
Joker reminds me of a shorter version of Tallinder

Lindy liked to lean on Hank

- homiedclown



I can see that. Kid is solid. I think Johnson makes and sticks with this team, as well. There might not be room for a D man.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 19 @ 9:51 PM ET


If Joker files for arb, his comps are not 3rd pair. They've never played him as one. Is anyone anxious to trade for him with a pending arb case?
.

- Lunaion

plus minus leader for the team this past season

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 19 @ 9:53 PM ET
I can see that. Kid is solid. I think Johnson makes and sticks with this team, as well. There might not be room for a D man.
- Powerslave

samuelsson
joker
clifton
johnson

give me 2 of them and a massive upgrade over these 4 to play in our top 4
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 19 @ 9:55 PM ET
plus minus leader for the team this past season
- homiedclown


wouldn't have guessed that, the top is quite a list
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 19 @ 9:56 PM ET
samuelsson
joker
clifton
johnson

give me 2 of them and a massive upgrade over these 4 to play in our top 4

- homiedclown



I mean, I hope they upgrade the D. I'm just not holding my breath. I think they like their D and his focus is on the forwards.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 19 @ 10:03 PM ET
You're assuming that they play him on the 3rd. Adams likes him. The kid had a good year.

You don't trust UPL, but Necas regressed 18 points this year after a 31 point jump the year before.

- Powerslave


Joker had a very good January February. He fell off a cliff in March and pull Byram with him.

Samuelsson jumps back in the top 4 or Ryan Johnson over joker.

Necas is the kind of hockey player i want. Speed and skill. He’s a better tage. Watching him in playoffs he always had the puck and making plays.

Points regression is because he was taken off the PP and top line. (That’s where the rumor of him wanting out came from)
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 19 @ 10:03 PM ET
Joker reminds me of a shorter version of Tallinder

Lindy liked to lean on Hank

- homiedclown


Ryan Johnson
Samuelsson

Over joker in the top 4
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 19 @ 10:03 PM ET
I mean, I hope they upgrade the D. I'm just not holding my breath. I think they like their D and his focus is on the forwards.
- Powerslave

it's a decent 4-7 group

I just think if your looking to have a cup contending team, you need a little better for your second pair than one of these 4

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 19 @ 10:04 PM ET
Ryan Johnson
Samuelsson

Over joker in the top 4

- Sabretooth9

yet joker was closing out the season with dahlin

Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 19 @ 10:08 PM ET
yet joker was closing out the season with dahlin
- homiedclown


Samualsson was hurt and Ryan Johnson was in an ahl playoff run

Duhhhhh. Joker also played with Byram for a majority of it.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 19 @ 10:13 PM ET
yet joker was closing out the season with dahlin
- homiedclown


Joker's been a top 4 almost his entire 5 years here. I'm guessing his agent knows this.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 19 @ 10:17 PM ET
Joker's been a top 4 almost his entire 5 years here. I'm guessing his agent knows this.
- Lunaion


If he wants 4+ mill. You move on. Trade or let him go. Pretty simple.

Joker doesn’t bring enough to get paid 4 mill a year. On a good team, he’s a 3rd d pair
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 19 @ 10:34 PM ET
Joker had a very good January February. He fell off a cliff in March and pull Byram with him.

Samuelsson jumps back in the top 4 or Ryan Johnson over joker.

Necas is the kind of hockey player i want. Speed and skill. He’s a better tage. Watching him in playoffs he always had the puck and making plays.

Points regression is because he was taken off the PP and top line. (That’s where the rumor of him wanting out came from)

- Sabretooth9



Or Byram fell off a cliff and pulled Joker with him...

Rod the Bod hated Skinner for a reason. There is obviously something to the fact that Necas was taken off those lines.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 19 @ 10:36 PM ET
If he wants 4+ mill. You move on. Trade or let him go. Pretty simple.

Joker doesn’t bring enough to get paid 4 mill a year. On a good team, he’s a 3rd d pair

- Sabretooth9



Yeah, that's brilliant. Just let him walk 🙄 Guy plays 20 minutes a night.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 19 @ 10:36 PM ET
Or Byram fell off a cliff and pulled Joker with him...

Rod the Bod hated Skinner for a reason. There is obviously something to the fact that Necas was taken off those lines.

- Powerslave


Definitely was joker. He was getting lazy and making some bad plays. His game went to poop.

One game I remember 5 bad plays from joker in a row.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 19 @ 10:44 PM ET
Yeah, that's brilliant. Just let him walk 🙄 Guy plays 20 minutes a night.
- Powerslave


I said earlier. He’s an RFA. Tender him and trade.

Ryan Johnson and samualsson easily replace him.

No harm no foul. You gain an asset.

I’m not sure why you are so high on joker or think he’s so great.

Watch the playoffs. He isn’t skilled enough or a good enough puck mover to be in the top 4.

Heck Adams trades for Byram. He knows already joker isn’t it

Adams direct quote about trading for Byram was “ it’s not secret I have been looking for a top 4 defensemen.”
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