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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 8:42 AM ET
I'm just saying he had nearly identical production to what Hinostroza brought 2 years ago. He's probably going to be a good, serviceable middle-6 winger. That's fine
- Hank Balling


why are we allowing this type of context

I guess is this "zach benson is a great player who has not developed yet" or is this "zach benson is barely better/more useful than vinnie hinostroza"
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
why are we allowing this type of context

I guess is this "zach benson is a great player who has not developed yet" or is this "zach benson is barely better/more useful than vinnie hinostroza"

- TheSabresTaco


Your question was where should he have been this past year. My answer to that is: he produced like Vinny Hinostroza, which to me says "probably not on the Sabres"
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
swap Quinn with Kulich and press send
- TheSabresTaco


Sure, while the Senators press the reject button and quickly.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 8:46 AM ET
The kid is scrappy and not afraid, give him a couple players to grow with and he will flourish
- Buff36


I'd bet my car he puts up 50 pts before the expiration of his ELC
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 8:46 AM ET
Sure, while the Senators press the reject button and quickly.
- kingcong39


well, they're not trading him anyway without severe overpayment.

here's this instead.


https://www.expectedbuffa...lyers-and-buffalo-sabres/
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 8:48 AM ET
Your question was where should he have been this past year. My answer to that is: he produced like Vinny Hinostroza, which to me says "probably not on the Sabres"
- Hank Balling


Alrite. Based on the roster kevyn assembled, which we unanimously agree was ass, what player on October 10th deserved to be here more than him?

And do we only care about points or do we care about positive play driving as well
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 21 @ 8:50 AM ET
Reino had 23 goals as a rookie tho. Bensonsons... did not
- Hank Balling


Sam Reinhart played 9 games in the NHL the season after he was drafted, and he had the bagel.

He was also nearly a full year older.

We'll see what Benson has scored at the completion of the 25-26 season to find out the true comparison.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 21 @ 8:51 AM ET
I'd bet my car he puts up 50 pts before the expiration of his ELC
- TheSabresTaco

I bet he does it this year with the right Linemates
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 21 @ 8:55 AM ET
Sam Reinhart played 9 games in the NHL the season after he was drafted, and he had the bagel.

He was also nearly a full year older.

We'll see what Benson has scored at the completion of the 25-26 season to find out the true comparison.

- kingcong39

He also played with Eichel ROR Kane that 23 goal season
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 21 @ 8:57 AM ET
Who did Rhino play with his Rookie year ?
- Buff36


According to Dobber, his most common linemates were Jamie McGinn, ROR and Kane.

Benson's were Cozens, Peterka and Mittelstadt
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 8:58 AM ET
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 21 @ 8:59 AM ET
Sam Reinhart played 9 games in the NHL the season after he was drafted, and he had the bagel.

He was also nearly a full year older.

We'll see what Benson has scored at the completion of the 25-26 season to find out the true comparison.

- kingcong39


Fair enough, but do you really think Benson is going to come close to Reinhart's career year ever?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 8:59 AM ET
Sam Reinhart played 9 games in the NHL the season after he was drafted, and he had the bagel.

He was also nearly a full year older.

We'll see what Benson has scored at the completion of the 25-26 season to find out the true comparison.

- kingcong39


would sure be interesting to see 2023 13OA beat out 2014 2OA in scoring in their 20 year old season.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 9:00 AM ET
Alrite. Based on the roster kevyn assembled, which we unanimously agree was ass, what player on October 10th deserved to be here more than him?

And do we only care about points or do we care about positive play driving as well

- TheSabresTaco


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 9:01 AM ET
Fair enough, but do you really think Benson is going to come close to Reinhart's career year ever?
- Hank Balling


I don't think Reinhart comes close to Reinhart's career year again. Besides the point, is this comparison being used as a negative for benson? that a projectable 19 year old maybe or maybe doesn't get 97 points some day in a season?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 9:02 AM ET
The game does not bend to a players age.

Potential means nothing, the Sabres have provided more evidence than needed on this subject for far too long.

Game impact wise, there is nothing to defend for any player on the Sabres, the collective was ass.

Lindy Ruff to the rescue.


12/25/24
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 9:02 AM ET

- washedup20


i stand corrected
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 9:03 AM ET
The organization is not looking to add a power forward, they drafted him in Anton Whalberg......12/25/24
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 9:03 AM ET
I bet he does it this year with the right Linemates
- Buff36


you get him PP minutes and I spose it's possible. would be damn impressive.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 21 @ 9:04 AM ET
I don't think Reinhart comes close to Reinhart's career year again. Besides the point, is this comparison being used as a negative for benson? that a projectable 19 year old maybe or maybe doesn't get 97 points some day in a season?
- TheSabresTaco


Reinhart was brought up as a comp due to the backlash he got as a player but Reino also produced at a higher rate.

I'm just not ready to fall in love with the 30 point rookie. He looks like he'll probably be a fine player but will he be special?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 9:04 AM ET
i stand corrected
- TheSabresTaco


Lindy can make him mean, I have more faith in that than Benson becoming Theo Fluery
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 21 @ 9:08 AM ET
you get him PP minutes and I spose it's possible. would be damn impressive.
- TheSabresTaco

Think the kid has got it, Sabres were a sh!t show on the Ice. And he survived and got better at the end of the Year. Get him a C that works as hard as him and who can shoot a bit and dish the puck some, and a pure shooter on the other W and I expect him to explode. He was a 18 year old kid not afraid to take a stick to the Head to go where he wanted. You can't Teach that.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 21 @ 9:11 AM ET
Think the kid has got it, Sabres were a sh!t show on the Ice. And he survived and got better at the end of the Year. Get him a C that works as hard as him and who can shoot a bit and dish the puck some, and a pure shooter on the other W and I expect him to explode. He was a 18 year old kid not afraid to take a stick to the Head to go where he wanted. You can't Teach that.
- Buff36


Benson also exhibited rat like behavior the second half of the season as well, which is a plus.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 9:12 AM ET
Reinhart was brought up as a comp due to the backlash he got as a player but Reino also produced at a higher rate.

I'm just not ready to fall in love with the 30 point rookie. He looks like he'll probably be a fine player but will he be special?

- Hank Balling


Well, I don't know what special means to anyone. But the way he plays the game, the offensive and defensive IQ, yeah, I think he'll be a a fan favorite. There's a 70 point player there who plays all situations. Any team in this league would be thrilled to have a piece like that.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 21 @ 9:13 AM ET
Fair enough, but do you really think Benson is going to come close to Reinhart's career year ever?
- Hank Balling


No, but I never thought Reinhart would get there either 😅

Reinhart's production is bolstered by being on a loaded team and having Barkov for a Center.

Massive difference to Benson's situation.
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