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washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 2:25 PM ET
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
After trading McDonagh, the #Preds now have a projected cap hit of $61,654,199 for next season with 15 contracts on the roster (10F-4D-1G).

$11,805,556 of the $61,654,199 is dead cap.

RS
Johansen- $4m
Ekholm- $250k

Buyout
Duchene - $5.55m
Turris - $2m



- jochfr


Was Mac over the hill, curious as to why they made that trade.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 21 @ 2:25 PM ET

- Ratsreign

It's like back in the Day when your Teacher ran her Nails down the Chalk Board. Everytime he posts something that's what I hear.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 21 @ 2:31 PM ET
Outside Compher, there's not much there. #4-6 type defenseman and Armia who saw games for Laval this year. Kane and RoR both had better impacts, and RoR still does, we simply didn't keep them around.
- QuinnFan

He was an excellent 2-way bottom 6 guy for 7 years between WPG and MTL.

A little revisionism here
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 21 @ 2:35 PM ET
I'm getting the sense that people would be fine with rolling out peterka-cozens-benson again as a second line. I think they need an upgrade there
- Hank Balling

buy out skinner so benson can get 13 goals on the second line instead of skinner getting 25


QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 21 @ 2:37 PM ET
He was an excellent 2-way bottom 6 guy for 7 years between WPG and MTL.

A little revisionism here

- sbroads24


Yeah, 3rd-4th line energy guy. I was just mentioning as Armia is about done. He was a serviceable bottom6 guy but that doesn't really move the needle much. I'm of the mind both of those trades could be undone, and the losing streak would still be going.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 21 @ 2:37 PM ET
I'm more worried about their 1st line than 2nd.
- Lunaion


Peterka - Thompson - Tuch concerns you?
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 21 @ 2:38 PM ET
buy out skinner so benson can get 13 goals on the second line instead of skinner getting 25
- homiedclown


This would be a move in the right direction, but better to do next summer when the Principal is less expensive to buy out or move.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 21 @ 2:38 PM ET
Always negativity with you.

He was playing well then got fed his lunch

- DirtyDan

disagree

it was a simple question

anyone that thinks cozens gave it his all last season was living in a spider hole

he is a core guy in a cap era and to see him going off in this tourneys raises a simple question


where was this effort in jan?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
Yeah, 3rd-4th line energy guy. I was just mentioning as Armia is about done. He was a serviceable bottom6 guy but that doesn't really move the needle much. I'm of the mind both of those trades could be undone, and the losing streak would still be going.
- QuinnFan

See I think that was the beginning of the true incompetence.

The WPG trade for Kane was also just awful. Kane was a terrible human, and I think he made the Pegula's second guess what an actual NHL GM was supposed to do

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
I'm more worried about their 1st line than 2nd.
- Lunaion

why, they were one of the best scoring lines in the nhl, til donnie phucked it up
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
Yeah, 3rd-4th line energy guy. I was just mentioning as Armia is about done. He was a serviceable bottom6 guy but that doesn't really move the needle much. I'm of the mind both of those trades could be undone, and the losing streak would still be going.
- QuinnFan


That was a team sorely lacking in any kind of bottom 6 contribution. I'd love to go back and give JB those kind of resources to work with.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 21 @ 2:41 PM ET
Was Mac over the hill, curious as to why they made that trade.
- washedup20


Nashville essentially leased Ryan from Tampa for 2 seasons, like a car.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 21 @ 2:41 PM ET
why, they were one of the best scoring lines in the nhl, til donnie phucked it up
- homiedclown


They were bad last year from game 1. Also not a big fan of pinning it all on the coach. Players want more accountability? Nothing was stopping them.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 21 @ 2:41 PM ET
That was a team sorely lacking in any kind of bottom 6 contribution. I'd love to go back and give JB those kind of resources to work with.
- Lunaion


Botterill would just trade for more defensemen, trying to get double digit dmen on the NHL roster.

He's on a future episode of hoarders.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 21 @ 2:42 PM ET
This would be a move in the right direction, but better to do next summer when the Principal is less expensive to buy out or move.
- QuinnFan

I still say wait and see how he works with ruff


if it's not a good fit, bury him and then buy him out in the summer of 25

best case, you got a 40 goal scorer
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 2:44 PM ET
Nashville essentially leased Ryan from Tampa for 2 seasons, like a car.
- kingcong39


Touché
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 21 @ 2:46 PM ET
They were bad last year from game 1. Also not a big fan of pinning it all on the coach. Players want more accountability? Nothing was stopping them.
- Lunaion

so one 24 goal scorer is bad, the 11 goal scorer is good

the 22 goal scorer is captain material and the 18 goal scorer gets a pass because he is doing well in a meaningless tourney for team canada vs stink stank and stunk

seems we are all over the map as far as expectations and scape goats

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 21 @ 2:47 PM ET
Anyone hear anything with Cernak ?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 2:48 PM ET
I still say wait and see how he works with ruff


if it's not a good fit, bury him and then buy him out in the summer of 25

best case, you got a 40 goal scorer

- homiedclown


How many games do you give the coach to assess if his message is working?

How many games do you give the players to adjust to the new system?

What is the realistic margin of error for this group, if they get close, miss the playoffs but looked good - is that considered a good learning experience or a failure?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 21 @ 2:50 PM ET
so one 24 goal scorer is bad, the 11 goal scorer is good

the 22 goal scorer is captain material and the 18 goal scorer gets a pass because he is doing well in a meaningless tourney for team canada vs stink stank and stunk

seems we are all over the map as far as expectations and scape goats

- homiedclown


First line opportunity comes with first line expectations. Hard to win in this league if your first line doesn't perform.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 21 @ 2:52 PM ET
How many games do you give the coach to assess if his message is working?

How many games do you give the players to adjust to the new system?

What is the realistic margin of error for this group, if they get close, miss the playoffs but looked good - is that considered a good learning experience or a failure?

- washedup20


I want to see what the 1st PP looks like on opening night. Any big changes? Is Skinner on it?
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 21 @ 2:54 PM ET
See I think that was the beginning of the true incompetence.

The WPG trade for Kane was also just awful. Kane was a terrible human, and I think he made the Pegula's second guess what an actual NHL GM was supposed to do

- sbroads24


Lot of terrible humans in the league, he's one of the worst, but I don't want to pretend he wasn't better than Armia either. That was the worse trade of the two by far. For RoR, the return basically matched. We simply didn't retain him after the loss of love of the game b.s.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 21 @ 2:55 PM ET
I still say wait and see how he works with ruff


if it's not a good fit, bury him and then buy him out in the summer of 25

best case, you got a 40 goal scorer

- homiedclown


Fair with the Ruff affect but I doubt Jeff has it in him to score 40 anymore. He needs to be spoon fed and highly motivated for that, neither of which being the case anymore.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 21 @ 2:57 PM ET
Anyone hear anything with Cernak ?
- Buff36


Nada here. Would love to see that happen.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 2:59 PM ET
I want to see what the 1st PP looks like on opening night. Any big changes? Is Skinner on it?
- Lunaion



Appert will be a rookie coach taking on that responsibility, my guess is not much will change.
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