He's also getting ready to tee off after getting ground down in the playoffs.
- kingcong39

Quinn Hughes had a 64.5 xgf% in the playoffs this year.

Him and Bouchard have been the best d-men by far

Caring about 3 years from now should be over when every other good team figures out the cap as they go.

There's going to be a ton of suitors for Monahan?

That AAV is over his projection.
- kingcong39

I saw a higher projection.

I think there will be better opportunities for him to win and play top 6. Why come to Buffalo and play bottom 6?

I saw a higher projection.

I think there will be better opportunities for him to win and play top 6. Why come to Buffalo and play bottom 6?
- Lunaion

Evolving Hockey has 3 years at $5.2M per as their projection.

Evolving Hockey has 3 years at $5.2M per as their projection.
- kingcong39

I would go 3 years 6 per

buffalo tax needed to be added IMO

I saw a higher projection.

I think there will be better opportunities for him to win and play top 6. Why come to Buffalo and play bottom 6?
- Lunaion

Not sure I agree about there being a better chance to play top 6 on a winning team with the 3 seasons prior to his one.

They were so bad that one good rebound season is not going to be enough to convince good teams.

I doubt the nucks would trade hughes straight up for dahlin
- homiedclown

I wouldn't build my team around him

I wouldn't build my team around him
- 3rd GM's the charm

Pettersson,JT Miller and Hughes or Tage, Cozens and Dahlin?

everyone can chime in

Underlyings say he’s worth every penny.

Him only having 59 points has more to do with the team having poor shooting luck with him on the ice and the fact the PP was dog 💩
- Swedish_Jesus

What underlying screams 11m?

What underlying screams 11m?
- Lunaion

I would say that is the going rate for a bonafide top 10 d-man in the league.

Dahlin didn’t give Buffalo a stay at home discount by any stretch of the imagination, but if any other top 10 d-men were UFA’s this year you don’t think they’d get $11M per ?

I would say that is the going rate for a bonafide top 10 d-man in the league.

Dahlin didn’t give Buffalo a stay at home discount by any stretch of the imagination, but if any other top 10 d-men were UFA’s this year you don’t think they’d get $11M per ?
- Swedish_Jesus

is dahlin a generational d man, or just a top 10 d man?

I would say that is the going rate for a bonafide top 10 d-man in the league.

Dahlin didn’t give Buffalo a stay at home discount by any stretch of the imagination, but if any other top 10 d-men were UFA’s this year you don’t think they’d get $11M per ?
- Swedish_Jesus

Seems a bit high, but he also wasn't a UFA.

is dahlin a generational d man, or just a top 10 d man?
- homiedclown

He should be on Norris ballots year in and year out on a team that doesn’t waste his talent.

Hopefully he’s making $11M for us and not someone else the next 8 years.

Seems like we gave generational talents coming out every year now, I guess it depends on what your definition of generational is

Seems a bit high, but he also wasn't a UFA.
- Lunaion

Had he taken his one year arbitration award last offseason he would have been this year.

He had all of the leverage in that negotiation, he might as well have been a UFA.

Seems like we gave generational talents coming out every year now, I guess it depends on what your definition of generational is
- Swedish_Jesus

I can't recall any other d prospect being touted the most highly skilled d man since bobby orr during draft talks since the mid 80s

Had he taken his one year arbitration award last offseason he would have been this year.

He had all of the leverage in that negotiation, he might as well have been a UFA.
- Swedish_Jesus

You're a year off.

Not this has any relevance to his performance last year.

Pettersson,JT Miller and Hughes or Tage, Cozens and Dahlin?

everyone can chime in
- homiedclown

One group has been to the playoffs (two times)

Had he taken his one year arbitration award last offseason he would have been this year.

He had all of the leverage in that negotiation, he might as well have been a UFA.
- Swedish_Jesus

Your entire life is a series of what if scenarios and it's very sad to see you day in and day out talk in what ifs and could haves. Honest to god, everything you say is some variation of

"Well if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle."

I can't recall any other d prospect being touted the most highly skilled d man since bobby orr during draft talks since the mid 80s
- homiedclown

And the Sabres stepped flat on their d whilst developing him. Between crap coaches, zero support on the backend for him and overall crap teams, that generational talent has been stifled. And they go and keep the same crap d coach…

Unless Terry sells soon, Dahlin will be the next to demand a trade and raise a cup

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Can't wait for the new Aliens movie. It's called "Humans" and they can't figure out which bathroom to use.

Evolving Hockey has 3 years at $5.2M per as their projection.
- kingcong39

Looking back, I'm not sure if we're talking Monahan or Lindholm now. Funny thing is, with UFA's, the conversation always goes the same way.

Looking back, I'm not sure if we're talking Monahan or Lindholm now. Funny thing is, with UFA's, the conversation always goes the same way.
- Lunaion

I said Monahan in the post you initially replied to.

You're a year off.

Not this has any relevance to his performance last year.
- Lunaion

Why was he a year off?

You're a year off.

Not this has any relevance to his performance last year.
- Lunaion

Dahlin’s totals amongst d-men to play at least 500 minutes this year (underlyings via Money Puck)

20 goals (3rd)
14.3 expected goals (3rd)
39 assists (18th)
24 primary assists (12th)
59 points (10th most)
54 xgf% (32nd) higher than Makar and McAvoy fwiw
12.1% Relative goals % (11th) (Sabres were dreadful when he wasn’t on the ice)

Dahlin only having 15 secondary assists says more about the rest of the team than it does him and is what’s keeping him from being in the top 5 in points amongst d-men this past year.

The Sabres as a team ranked in all situations:

22nd in xgf%
23rd in Actual goals for

The Sabres PP:

29th in xgf%
30th in Actual goals for

Dahlin is taking a lot of the blame for Donnie/Ellis and the supporting cast eating cheeks

Why was he a year off?
- kingcong39

He wasn't RFA last summer and wouldn't be UFA this summer.

Dahlin’s totals amongst d-men to play at least 500 minutes this year (underlyings via Money Puck)

20 goals (3rd)
14.3 expected goals (3rd)
39 assists (18th)
24 primary assists (12th)
59 points (10th most)
54 xgf% (32nd) higher than Makar and McAvoy fwiw
12.1% Relative goals % (11th) (Sabres were dreadful when he wasn’t on the ice)

Dahlin only having 15 secondary assists says more about the rest of the team than it does him and is what’s keeping him from being in the top 5 in points amongst d-men this past year.

The Sabres as a team ranked in all situations:

22nd in xgf%
23rd in Actual goals for

The Sabres PP:

29th in xgf%
30th in Actual goals for

Dahlin is taking a lot of the blame for Donnie/Ellis and the supporting cast eating cheeks
- Swedish_Jesus

It's good. Top 10 stuff.