Of course. Surprised anyone disputes the Leafs issues weren’t the stars

Surprised Matthew Knies and his sweet ELC didn’t get the job done
- sbroads24

I'm split with you on this one.

With you on stars needing to be stars to win over multiple series.

Generally with Ion on ELC/low salaries being important to round out your roster, and even more so with how the Sabres almost have to build their team.

My philosophy has always been that the top players are worth their money, the lowest salaries are worth their money, and in between is where you kill yourself with guys who mostly aren't worth their money.

“While Benson isn’t the best forward the Blue and Gold have ever drafted, he’s shown skill and ability and will hopefully continue to advance each year he’s on Buffalo’s roster.”


- washedup20

You forgot to turn the camera back from the selfish mode

I'm split with you on this one.

With you on stars needing to be stars to win over multiple series.

Generally with Ion on ELC/low salaries being important to round out your roster, and even more so with how the Sabres almost have to build their team.

My philosophy has always been that the top players are worth their money, the lowest salaries are worth their money, and in between is where you kill yourself with guys who mostly aren't worth their money.
- Lunaion

Pretty Solid post

You forgot to turn the camera back from the selfish mode
- IonSabres

😂 😂 touché

Never liked how they go about this exercise. Multiple staff doing the grading and they don't agree on what they are grading.
- Lunaion

Those articles are completely subjective and offer no analysis other than counting stats.
I enjoy when posters post other articles, but DBB is close to useless.

You forgot to turn the camera back from the selfish mode
- IonSabres

Looks like some of the Protesters

I'm split with you on this one.

With you on stars needing to be stars to win over multiple series.

Generally with Ion on ELC/low salaries being important to round out your roster, and even more so with how the Sabres almost have to build their team.

My philosophy has always been that the top players are worth their money, the lowest salaries are worth their money, and in between is where you kill yourself with guys who mostly aren't worth their money.
- Lunaion

This is something that I’ve argued for too, however that’s not really my point here.

Low salaries are important, but they don’t always come from keeping your 1st/2nd rounders.

They can be college UFA’s/trades/under the radar UFA finds.

ELC’s making a big impact is a rarity for guys drafted past the top 5-10 picks where we’re going to be theoretically drafting.

Dallas has a few and they’ve drafted especially well the past few years.

Those articles are completely subjective and offer no analysis other than counting stats.
I enjoy when posters post other articles, but DBB is close to useless.
- IonSabres

They all are now, hard to find original stuff

I'm split with you on this one.

With you on stars needing to be stars to win over multiple series.

Generally with Ion on ELC/low salaries being important to round out your roster, and even more so with how the Sabres almost have to build their team.

My philosophy has always been that the top players are worth their money, the lowest salaries are worth their money, and in between is where you kill yourself with guys who mostly aren't worth their money.
- Lunaion

Your approach is a dangerous way to build and run your team, and you know why.

Ok, so “them” means multiple then, correct?

What are you getting all bent out of shape for?

It’s an over rated talking point people use. Just like “goalies are voodoo” or “if you’re blocking shots it’s actually bad because you don’t have the puck”
- sbroads24

Because you attacked me, moved the goalposts and misrepresented what I said.

My whole point is, and was stated quite clearly in other posts is that rather than trading '24's 11thOA, Adams should:
-trade existing prospects that are redundant to use as trade assets rather than that 1st
-use the pick to help offset higher costs down the line when it will be very useful to have a high quality NHL -ready prospects join the team

I didn't say they "need a bunch of them", nor that they need them now.
Pretty simple...but you choose to have "the big take" and blasted me with 2 teams as evidence, one of which was laughable at best.
But you continue to be you, as you always do. Go kick your wife or something.

Those ELC's can't be sitting on your AHL Team for 2, 3 years waiting for a shot. The shine wears of

Because you attacked me, moved the goalposts and misrepresented what I said.

My whole point is, and was stated quite clearly in other posts is that rather than trading '24's 11thOA, Adams should:
-trade existing prospects that are redundant to use as trade assets rather than that 1st
-use the pick to help offset higher costs down the line when it will be very useful to have a high quality NHL -ready prospects join the team

I didn't say they "need a bunch of them", nor that they need them now.
Pretty simple...but you choose to have "the big take" and blasted me with 2 teams as evidence, one of which was laughable at best.
But you continue to be you, as you always do. Go kick your wife or something.
- IonSabres

Attacked?

I asked who was an impactful ELC player on the last 2 cup teams.

2 players qualify out of about 44 roster spots.

It’s an over rated talking point in my opinion

I didn’t realize how thin your skin was my fault

Boy you seem awfully rattled that someone challenged your arrogant “you’ll see my way” and “I don’t know what to tell you” post, eh?
- sbroads24

It was posted at Washed, as he has p9sted 700 posts over the last few days about how useless prospects and draft picks are.
Like everything else in sports, a blend is usually a better strategy than all 9f the same.
You had a hard on for the post, that is of your own doing..you control it. Don't like 8t, don't lie. Pure and simple.

Of course. Surprised anyone disputes the Leafs issues weren’t the stars

Surprised Matthew Knies and his sweet ELC didn’t get the job done
- sbroads24

Lundell- 10 points in 13 games
Bennett- 6 points in 8 games.
Erod- 6 points in 13 games.


Where are those on the Leafs ?

Requiring the core 4 to have historic performances like the stars in Edmonton isnt a good strategy.

Edmonton should fire Holland on the spot if they lose to Dallas

Your approach is a dangerous way to build and run your team, and you know why.
- kingcong39

Sabres are the A's. They can't win playing the same game as the big boys.

Best bet is to hire Waddell and try to be Carolina. Had their chance to be Edmonton or Pitt, but the lotteries didn't work out for them.

I don't consider this a dangerous concept at all. Not wanting to spend on the Girgs, Jokers, and Cliftons of the world is just smart business.

How did that work out ?

Lomberg knocked Vesey out of the game, Kulikov nearly killed Wennberg.

Rempe couldn’t even do the one thing he’s useful for
- Swedish_Jesus

What do his stats say about amping up his team (per60)? Somehow it seems to have an effect. Perhaps it’s the crowd that get the other players going, because MSG goes nuts for this kid. You can hear the buzz building as he skates towards anybody, as if they’re expecting a massive hit every time. They were going off when he would wind up just bumping into somebody. The phenomenon is real. Even the media is slobbering all over it. This is what they go to break with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUpjorLUg3s
It’s crazy. Rempe mania takes Manhattan

Those ELC's can't be sitting on your AHL Team for 2, 3 years waiting for a shot. The shine wears of
- Buff36

Depends.

At some point when the pipeline is full of redundancy, yes it is difficult to utilize them all on the roster...and who wants "a bunch" of players on ELC's continuing to learn the NHL game together.
That is where, I believe anyway, 90% of the posters are at...the utility to the Sabres as roster players begins to degrade. Sabres are here.

However, by the same token, several teams like Tampa, VGK now, NYI and a and a few others will put a higher value in adding such NHL ready prospects to their roster...a "bunch of them", not likely but to augment with 1 or 2 ... you betcha, yes. Specifically because they have expensive, vet laden rosters and a bare pipeline from mortgaging the future.

This is why I don't buy into the Prospects Los e value as a general statement. It is far more nuanced than that.

What do his stats say about amping up his team (per60)? Somehow it seems to have an effect. Perhaps it’s the crowd that get the other players going, because MSG goes nuts for this kid. You can hear the buzz building as he skates towards anybody, as if they’re expecting a massive hit every time. They were going off when he would wind up just bumping into somebody. The phenomenon is real. Even the media is slobbering all over it. This is what they go to break with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUpjorLUg3s
It’s crazy. Rempe mania takes Manhattan
- Ratsreign

Jiminy crickets!

Sabres are the A's. They can't win playing the same game as the big boys.

Best bet is to hire Waddell and try to be Carolina. Had their chance to be Edmonton or Pitt, but the lotteries didn't work out for them.
- Lunaion

Waddell signed in Columbus as PoHo

Waddell signed in Columbus as PoHo
- washedup20

That sucks. That was almost too perfect.

Sabres are the A's. They can't win playing the same game as the big boys.

Best bet is to hire Waddell and try to be Carolina. Had their chance to be Edmonton or Pitt, but the lotteries didn't work out for them.
- Lunaion

He's going to Columbus, per reports, so that's out.

They hired an amazing, as best as we could tell, analytics staff.

They're not listening to them, or they suck at their jobs.

Find out which is the case and fix the problem pronto.

I must say, the Yankees are on Fire 🔥! They crushed the ball last night.

This is something that I’ve argued for too, however that’s not really my point here.

Low salaries are important, but they don’t always come from keeping your 1st/2nd rounders.

They can be college UFA’s/trades/under the radar UFA finds.

ELC’s making a big impact is a rarity for guys drafted past the top 5-10 picks where we’re going to be theoretically drafting.

Dallas has a few and they’ve drafted especially well the past few years.
- sbroads24

They also come from those players who are on their second contracts.

Lightning won first cup with Swrgachev, Cirelli, Cernak on ELC

Won second cup with the three aforementioned on bridge deals.

Chandler Stephenson and Tom Wilson combined for $2.65M in cap space on the Caps team that won the cup.

Under-appreciated is not the same as underrated

Vincent Trochek is underrated

Alexander Barkov is very highly praised and always has been. He is the closest thing to a modern day Fedorov that we have.

Under-appreciated maybe, but people need to understand what being underrated actually means.

And carries a Small Purse to go with it
- Buff36

But that’s your guy. You love big players that can’t skate.