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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
Norway just got there 1st shot on Canada's net and the 3rd period has just started
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
they haven't had a good goalie for 20 years. Let's try something new
- drexel

They havent had great D or a quality D core for 40 years.

Marner for soros, wrong move imo
Goalies are too unpredictable
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
Norway just got there 1st shot on Canada's net and the 3rd period has just started
- dmnted

and they scored on their 2nd shot
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
It’s crazy how I’m always right about everything.


- Arctic_AARDVARK


Ha ha... oh wait... you're serious?

Well, ya got part of it right anyway.


dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
They havent had great D for 40 years.

Marner for soros, wrong move imo

- Fakepartofme

it would be Soros +, not straight up obviously
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 4:06 PM ET
I see all of these idiot sites of Facebook trading Marner to almost every other city and what we should expect back in return. He's not getting traded before July 1st, regardless. Once the Leafs pay the signing bonus, he's under $1M in real money. Sure, the cap space is the issue, however many teams with cap space that want an Allstar on their team would see that as a win-win. They get a high end talent and only really pay $1M for his services for 1 year. Teams like Seattle, Utah and Columbus would be all in on a deal like that. There could also be a third side to the deal to knock off half of the Cap space. In reality, if Marner waives, there would be at least a dozen serious teams out there, looking to sign him. We hear of teams like Ottawa ready to make such a deal. Brady Tkachuk seems to be on their sh!t list these days. I'd take him in a heartbeat even up for Marner. Those guys are playoff beasts and that's exactly what the Leafs should be looking at. As a fanbase, we're all pretty much past regular season accomplishments. We want a long playoff run and a chance to play for the Cup. For the record, the Leafs have never won 3 rounds in the playoffs and that should be the goal. The finals and take your best shot at winning it. Tkachuk gives you that, Marner does not. Ottawa are perpetual losers so lets take that offer. We can shore up our defense other ways.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 16 @ 4:07 PM ET
it would be Soros +, not straight up obviously
- dmnted

Yes i get that.
Still no.
Soros would be the main piece.
Not a good trade imo and adding carrier doesn't cut it.
Soros plus forsberg sure
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 16 @ 4:07 PM ET
it would be Soros +, not straight up obviously
- dmnted

MM and Moe for Josi, Juicy and Schenn
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

May 16 @ 4:08 PM ET
and they scored on their 2nd shot
- dmnted

Well, $#!+, how can a goalie that has stood around for 2 periods be expected to stop a shot?!?
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 4:09 PM ET
They havent had great D or a quality D core for 40 years.

Marner for soros, wrong move imo
Goalies are too unpredictable

- Fakepartofme


Agreed! Sorokin is a better bet, younger and has a new contract kicking in. You might just get a defenseman thrown in to balance the money part of the deal. Pulock fits the bill.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 16 @ 4:10 PM ET
I guess the 'drop back' plan on the PP can work........with some modifications.

This is sneaky good - I love it.

Wish the Leafs had a PP coach who was creative enough to try something like this.



https://x.com/LeafsUpdate...tatus/1791080670913011721
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 16 @ 4:11 PM ET
I see all of these idiot sites of Facebook trading Marner to almost every other city and what we should expect back in return. He's not getting traded before July 1st, regardless. Once the Leafs pay the signing bonus, he's under $1M in real money. Sure, the cap space is the issue, however many teams with cap space that want an Allstar on their team would see that as a win-win. They get a high end talent and only really pay $1M for his services for 1 year. Teams like Seattle, Utah and Columbus would be all in on a deal like that. There could also be a third side to the deal to knock off half of the Cap space. In reality, if Marner waives, there would be at least a dozen serious teams out there, looking to sign him. We hear of teams like Ottawa ready to make such a deal. Brady Tkachuk seems to be on their sh!t list these days. I'd take him in a heartbeat even up for Marner. Those guys are playoff beasts and that's exactly what the Leafs should be looking at. As a fanbase, we're all pretty much past regular season accomplishments. We want a long playoff run and a chance to play for the Cup. For the record, the Leafs have never won 3 rounds in the playoffs and that should be the goal. The finals and take your best shot at winning it. Tkachuk gives you that, Marner does not. Ottawa are perpetual losers so lets take that offer. We can shore up our defense other ways.
- PrinceLH


Marner would only waive for specific teams - it's not a general waive and see what happens.

Can't see him waiving for Ott, Utah, Seattle, or any other team that has no chance at the Cup.

Marner's gonna get paid no matter what. Why would he want to get paid on a dog of a team?

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 16 @ 4:12 PM ET
Well, $#!+, how can a goalie that has stood around for 2 periods be expected to stop a shot?!?
- Whipper

Team Canada just got a shorty 3-1
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 4:13 PM ET
Marner would only waive for specific teams - it's not a general waive and see what happens.

Can't see him waiving for Ott, Utah, Seattle, or any other team that has no chance at the Cup.

Marner's gonna get paid no matter what. Why would he want to get paid on a dog of a team?

- Nasty_Duck


He has issues with the press. Send him to a big market and he has the bright lights of a rabid media all over him. He should just pull a Gaudreau and take his retirement package elsewhere.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 16 @ 4:14 PM ET
They havent had great D or a quality D core for 40 years.

Marner for soros, wrong move imo
Goalies are too unpredictable

- Fakepartofme

Are we actually responding to MIB's blog?

There's a first for everything!

😂
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 4:16 PM ET
I guess the 'drop back' plan on the PP can work........with some modifications.

This is sneaky good - I love it.

Wish the Leafs had a PP coach who was creative enough to try something like this.



https://x.com/LeafsUpdate...tatus/1791080670913011721

- Cush29


You know who else is good at that? Easton Cowan. He does it a lot on the powerplay. He sifts back and finds himself deep in his own end and throws a pass up and kicks it up to the other forwards. He buried Oshawa with plays like that.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

May 16 @ 4:20 PM ET
https://www.dailyfaceoff....y-cup-after-long-droughts
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 4:27 PM ET
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/seven-superstars-who-broke-through-to-win-the-stanley-cup-after-long-droughts
- wingz4life
I remember Yzerman in Junior. I was sitting along the glass at the Quinte Sports Centre, in Belleville, Ontario when Bulls defenseman Ben Kelly hit him with a low bridge hit and tore up his knee. I wasn't sure if he'd ever become a useful player after that hit. It was gruesome.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 16 @ 4:30 PM ET
You know who else is good at that? Easton Cowan. He does it a lot on the powerplay. He sifts back and finds himself deep in his own end and throws a pass up and kicks it up to the other forwards. He buried Oshawa with plays like that.
- PrinceLH


Well then perhaps there is hope.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

May 16 @ 4:34 PM ET
I actually don't mind when I am wrong. Being wrong is a learning opportunity. You just have to swallow your pride, admit you were wrong, take in the new correct information, and then you walk away smarter for it. You take a small temporary bruise to your pride, but you emerge better for it.

It's a lesson that many in our society need to learn and put into practice in their daily lives. A lot of our collective problems are made much worse by people refusing to admit they are wrong and then doubling-down on being wrong.

Having said that, I will now say - Marner and/or JT aren't going anywhere yet.

When the puck drops to start the season, Marner and JT will be in the starting lineup, barring an injury.

Ok, throw rotten fruit at me now.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

May 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
I remember Yzerman in Junior. I was sitting along the glass at the Quinte Sports Centre, in Belleville, Ontario when Bulls defenseman Ben Kelly hit him with a low bridge hit and tore up his knee. I wasn't sure if he'd ever become a useful player after that hit. It was gruesome.
- PrinceLH



Long live Stevie Y & The Petes
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 16 @ 4:40 PM ET
agree, its just to risky and Goalies are too unpredictable.
trade other parts if you want, but not a player like Marner

- senstroll


This mindset is weird.

You put an elite goalie in any average goalies starts last year and the team does better.

I used to think that way too and its a load of crap, it is important to have good goaltending.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

May 16 @ 4:45 PM ET
From the last blog, and the "Rat"...this is a real hockey interview with no BS:

https://x.com/spittinchic.../1791148722018975829?s=42

- underhill14




Its why I very much dislike folks that chirp about tough players and physical Puck (including fights). Hockey is a game of intimidation (for reasons Brad outlines). Humans can and will always be intimidated no mater what stupid snarky smirk they wear.

All players understand this - certain fans choose to refuse to get it...and things like the Code as well. Very real to the actual players despite what fans want to believe and promote how 'toxic masculinity' ruins the game blah blah blah.

Cant stand Brad but more players should be this open. Hockey is a scary and violent game. Unless you take out hitting and make it only body contact this will be the case...and if they do take it out - it will be the death of the game.

Also: Defence and Tending wins Championships...along with toughness/skill mix.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

May 16 @ 4:56 PM ET
Ugh, forget trading to Nashville for a soros.
Get a top 3 dman, a top 6 forward or high end prospects.
Hertl and theodore.
Kempe and clarke.

- Fakepartofme

LOL

Good one
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

May 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
From last blog:

I could see Utah being prepared to throw big $s at him to help create some buzz and that has a poop load of picks to spend. The winning part is a big question mark but the owner apparently knows what he’s doing and could use him to help market the team. Long shot since there’s no history but Mitch might like being THE GUY.
- Canada Cup


They have a lot of picks and prospects I'd be interested in too.
I'll take the 6'7'' D Man who can skate for starters.
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