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Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 17 @ 12:35 PM ET
I expect Necas to be re-signed.
- MJL


A sign and trade wouldn’t surprise me.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
I expect Necas to be re-signed.
- MJL

why? what if he is asking for more than the canes have slotted for.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
A sign and trade wouldn’t surprise me.
- Minnyhock

nope I think he wants to get paid.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 17 @ 12:41 PM ET
We shall see what they do this summer. Even trading Laughton will go a ways to get me thinking maybe they get it. We all know they are resigning Konecny.

My biggest fear is that they think they are closer than they really are.

- MBFlyerfan



Bingo - you know they are saying man if only we beat san jose and mtl we could have been in the playoffs and who knows what could have happened
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 17 @ 12:42 PM ET
I know the Flyers are the furthest thing from a well run organization but even they can't be that stupid to extend Hathaway. That's a deadline deal next season.
- Pelle31Forever


So was RP and NS this season and we saw what happened
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 17 @ 12:44 PM ET
There is a dispute on Johanssen and whether he is going to be medically cleared. If so, he could be bought out instead of Atkinson. Just a possibility that could impact what the Flyers decide to do.
- MJL


They could really help themselves trading konecny. It’s going to be funny to watch them resign him.

On Johansen, they’d be fools to buy him out, or anyone else at all. $4 million to play minor league hockey, cry me a river.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 17 @ 12:47 PM ET
nope I think he wants to get paid.
- hello it's me 2050


If they sign Guentzel and Jarvis, I don’t see Necas there.



MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 17 @ 12:48 PM ET
So was RP and NS this season and we saw what happened
- corduroy



Poehling is only 25 and his cap hit is reasonable both in cap hit and length. I can live with that. Seeler, on the other hand, I agree with you completely. I'm even more bothered by the term of 4 years than his actual cap hit. The NTC bothers me as well. At least they didn't give an NMC so he can be sent down if he ends up sucking.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 17 @ 12:50 PM ET
If they sign Guentzel and Jarvis, I don’t see Necas there.
- Minnyhock

you see them shelling out the cash for guentzel?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 17 @ 12:50 PM ET
Poehling is only 25 and his cap hit is reasonable both in cap hit and length. I can live with that. Seeler, on the other hand, I agree with you completely. I'm even more bothered by the term of 4 years than his actual cap hit. The NTC bothers me as well. At least they didn't give an NMC so he can be sent down if he ends up sucking.
- MBFlyerfan

what other teams give seeler types no trade clauses? the gold standard
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 17 @ 12:54 PM ET
what other teams give seeler types no trade clauses? the gold standard
- hello it's me 2050


Gold standard.....


Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 17 @ 12:54 PM ET
you see them shelling out the cash for guentzel?
- hello it's me 2050


They’re pretty frugal. But yes, I see them going hard for Guentzel.

Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

May 17 @ 12:57 PM ET
I know the Flyers are the furthest thing from a well run organization but even they can't be that stupid to extend Hathaway. That's a deadline deal next season.
- Pelle31Forever


Hath extension coming in hot! Bank on it...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 17 @ 12:57 PM ET
So lets say the flyers are 5 6 million over the cap with a day to go before they have to hand in their cap compliant roster. Can they put Ellis and Ryjo on long term injury list to get compliant?

Basically, can the use that before the season starts? My understanding was they couldn’t.

- hello it's me 2050


Yes.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 17 @ 1:04 PM ET
They’re pretty frugal. But yes, I see them going hard for Guentzel.
- Minnyhock


Tulsky and Waddell have a very clear idea of what each player is worth to the team in dollars/years and they aren't shy about moving on if a player tries to get more than that, no matter who it is.

See: Trocheck, Dougie, D'Angelo, Nedeljkovic


Basically the opposite of the Flyers who are always willing to give more dollars and years when they want to keep somebody.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
Nice take on the Kolosov situation Bill.

What about the rumors of TK to Chicago? 2nd overall is out of the question, but what else could they give up with the 20th overall?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
Tulsky and Waddell have a very clear idea of what each player is worth to the team in dollars/years and they aren't shy about moving on if a player tries to get more than that, no matter who it is.

See: Trocheck, Dougie, D'Angelo, Nedeljkovic


Basically the opposite of the Flyers who are always willing to give more dollars and years when they want to keep somebody.

- Tomahawk

that is also a factor why they haven't won. can't lean on the analytics in every situation.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 17 @ 1:21 PM ET
I would say no. They aren’t willing to pay Pesce over $5 Mil.
- Minnyhock


I would think Pesce is asking for a good bit more than $5mil.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 17 @ 1:22 PM ET
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Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

May 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
So was RP and NS this season and we saw what happened
- corduroy


Poehling is what 24/25 years old? 2 years ain't nothing.

Seeler was plain stupid but again, he's young.

No sense in extending dudes in their 30's like Hathaway.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 17 @ 1:56 PM ET
Nice take on the Kolosov situation Bill.

What about the rumors of TK to Chicago? 2nd overall is out of the question, but what else could they give up with the 20th overall?

- 2Real


Link to rumor?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

May 17 @ 1:56 PM ET
Nobody’s whining about it. We are pointing and laughing at the flyers, the low hanging fruit
- Just5


plenty of folks here are dogging the flyers for having no cap space after begging them to weaponize cap space to take on bad/expiring contracts like RyJo to get assets (a first!)

they are begging for them not to make any splashes in free agency but in the same breath also are for some reason upset we don't have enough space to do anything? is it that we don't have more space to weaponize? we did get a first, the type of asset we should be happy about. just seems like piling on for the sake of piling on.

anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

May 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
So was RP and NS this season and we saw what happened
- corduroy


nothing wrong with those signings.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 17 @ 2:00 PM ET
that is also a factor why they haven't won. can't lean on the analytics in every situation.
- hello it's me 2050


It's the nature of being a small market, limited budget team.

They can't take huge swings and miss -- owner can't afford to Kevin Hayes a mistake or bury a lot of money in the AHL (they didn't even have an affiliate this season) or take on bad contracts in trade or take advantage of the LTIR loophole.

They're not really on an even playing field with the rest of the contenders.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
nothing wrong with those signings.
- anti-lame



Okay. Did papa approve?
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