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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 3:52 PM ET
Quite accurate for Tochett to mention that "they've finally got the respect of this town"...meaning, not even your own city respects you! While I actually do agree with Tochett though, the team has grown in this area, there is still a huge mountain to climb in terms of the rest of the world/league respecting the Canucks.

They play another team's intro song
They copied the crowd singing O'Canada
They copied the Bruins' "woooooo" after a goal
They copied the "get an ex player or celeb to turn the siren"
...but worst of all, they STILL pump fake crowd noises into the building to manufacture a raucous crowd! (quite pathetic considering I don't even think they need it, the crowd seems just fine to me).

And there is definitely NOT a rivalry between Van and CGY or Van and EDM. The rivialry is EDM vs CGY. Van has never competed with anyone. Maybe go ask the Climate Change Krayken for a date.

- JLO961

RT created a sorely needed culture.
Yup fake noise is total bs 👍

Vancouver invented towel power.
Vancouver Blazers invented the siren.
Flames haven’t been relevant forever.
Only winning McD has changed that for the Oilers or would be irrelevant.

As for the Battle of Alberta it’s the fans more than the teams & the hype is only there & nowhere else.

All in all overall out west is more entertaining hockey than out east in Canada. Leaf & Hab nation are huge but it’s 1 team truly that is relevant the Leafs.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
Fingers crossed. Bet placed on October 17th.

Capture


- NorthNuck

Wow Tocchet is getting 25/1? Might have to hit that lol
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
As many of you know, I am not a fan of Pouty, but there is almost a zero chance he is getting traded. The team has very few top 6 players, with Pouty being one of them, is he overpaid, fu
ck ya, but he is not going anywhere.
Hronek on the other hand should be expendable.

Sign Zadorov, Myers Lindholm, another big defenseman maybe Joshua and try get another decent winger.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 21 @ 3:54 PM ET
Wow Tocchet is getting 25/1? Might have to hit that lol
- LordHumungous

He most definitely is not, he was in October when I placed the bet. If he were getting that now I would have put my mortgage on it.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
If Myers and a few others up front are gone bringing back Lindholm and Big Z shouldn't be a problem but it will take some money moving lol.

If I was MNGT right now I would be meeting with Tocchet and just be honest and say 'what do you need to make the WCF next year' and go from there. Tocchet knows what's needed to win in PO's IMO.

- LordHumungous



I'm sure that will happen.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
My hope is...

OUT: Myers (6), Mikey(4.7), Hoglander (1.1), Lafferty (1.1), Hronek (4.4), Suter (1.6), Blueger(1.9), Cole (3), Boeser (Injury) (6)

29.8M

IN: Zadorov (6), Lindholm(6), Joshua(3), Brady Skjei (6), Brett Pesce (6), Jake Guentzal (8) or Sam Reinhart (9.5)

35M - 36.5M

Nighthawk, will this work?


- Bakwas

Lol

Well it’s really something to ponder. Lots of good pieces in if wholesale changes. Gotta see what big move PA makes 1st. He’s hard to read. Then a better picture of how the dominos could fall. Gimme time 😂
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
Zadarov was right "All Edmonton has is hockey"

I had seen some pictures of Rogers on the weekend and people in Edmonton are still wearing winter coats. It is almost June for Christ sakes.

- VANTEL

Alberia lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
Fingers crossed. Bet placed on October 17th.

Capture


- NorthNuck

I like your chances 👍
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 21 @ 4:02 PM ET
As many of you know, I am not a fan of Pouty, but there is almost a zero chance he is getting traded. The team has very few top 6 players, with Pouty being one of them, is he overpaid, fu
ck ya, but he is not going anywhere.
Hronek on the other hand should be expendable.

Sign Zadorov, Myers Lindholm, another big defenseman maybe Joshua and try get another decent winger.

- Reubenkincade

Yup, he's not getting traded but it's fun bringing it up.
He definitely needs a couple of talented wingers instead of the garbage he's been playing with on a lot of occasions. After fixing the defense last off season, I hope a rugged winger or 2 with some offensive punch is one of the priorities this off season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
As many of you know, I am not a fan of Pouty, but there is almost a zero chance he is getting traded. The team has very few top 6 players, with Pouty being one of them, is he overpaid, fu
ck ya, but he is not going anywhere.
Hronek on the other hand should be expendable.

Sign Zadorov, Myers Lindholm, another big defenseman maybe Joshua and try get another decent winger.

- Reubenkincade


I agree that he is not being moved this summer. Before TDL next year is a possibility if the return is good and how the Canucks are playing at that time.

He needs to be playing with the top players. Guentzel is not coming here so he needs to play with Miller and Brock otherwise his production is going to take a hit.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 4:07 PM ET
Good clip from RD on UFA's...

https://x.com/DonnieandDh...tatus/1792999338718699823

- VanHockeyGuy

Great offseason fun is ahead for us.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

May 21 @ 4:08 PM ET


Before coming to Van, Miller had a grand total of 3 goals in 61 playoff games. Patience and calmness is something not a lot of Canadian markets have.

- NewYorkNuck


Yeah this coaching staff has turned many players around for the better. Petey and QH will learn from this too. It’s just can everyone be on fire again and have the support they need. Team had a lot of players on bargain contracts.

Going to be challenging navigating cap on who can be kept and who can be brought in to replace.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 4:09 PM ET
I was playing around on CF and thought instead of overpaying look at other alternatives.

Instead of bringing back Hronek in the high sevens trade his ass to MTL: Xhekaj and Mailloux Winnipegs first for Hronek and Hoglander. Two young D ready to play in the NHL. Much cheaper.

Zadarov will need also to be an overpay so another option is Brendan Dillon for two years at a much cheaper rate.

Instead of overpaying for Joshua , Boston are looking to move Debrusk who is a true top six guy who checks more boxes. He will be more expensive but fits the cap.

For the right guy like Evan Bouchard I would consider moving Demko. Short term woes, long term gains.

As I always say you don't have to agree with the names but the process of finding replacements is what matters.

I think if the team is keeping Petey he needs to play top line. Crazy having a player paid that much playing second line. Bring Lindholm back and Debrusk and Garland riding shotgun.

- VANTEL

Dillon in idk. Demko out nope.

All of the rest is food for thought.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 4:10 PM ET
As many of you know, I am not a fan of Pouty, but there is almost a zero chance he is getting traded. The team has very few top 6 players, with Pouty being one of them, is he overpaid, fu
ck ya, but he is not going anywhere.
Hronek on the other hand should be expendable.

Sign Zadorov, Myers Lindholm, another big defenseman maybe Joshua and try get another decent winger.

- Reubenkincade

👍👍
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 4:12 PM ET
Dillon in idk. Demko out nope.

All of the rest is food for thought.

- Nighthawk


I know Demko out is a stretch. Keep in mind Tolopilo is just as good as Silovs. It would need to be an overpay by the other team. Demko's injury history is also a factor.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
I agree that he is not being moved this summer. Before TDL next year is a possibility if the return is good and how the Canucks are playing at that time.

He needs to be playing with the top players. Guentzel is not coming here so he needs to play with Miller and Brock otherwise his production is going to take a hit.

- VANTEL

2 things…
Guentzel too pricey but would be great.
Petey doesn’t carry a line or yet.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
I know Demko out is a stretch. Keep in mind Tolopilo is just as good as Silovs. It would need to be an overpay by the other team. Demko's injury history is also a factor.
- VANTEL

Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

May 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
Betting lines say oilers win, let’s see if they make it happen.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 4:16 PM ET
I know Demko out is a stretch. Keep in mind Tolopilo is just as good as Silovs. It would need to be an overpay by the other team. Demko's injury history is also a factor.
- VANTEL

Demko out only if big moves made ‘ needing the cap space. That would be a very significant UFA or huge trade. Too big of a risk next year could be a set back from the momentum gained. Cannot see PA not going for a cup run. The following year could make more sense.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

May 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
Joshua probably ends up in Toronto.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
Yup, he's not getting traded but it's fun bringing it up.
He definitely needs a couple of talented wingers instead of the garbage he's been playing with on a lot of occasions. After fixing the defense last off season, I hope a rugged winger or 2 with some offensive punch is one of the priorities this off season.

- Marwood


It sure is.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

May 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
Congrats on a very good season that surpassed the expectations of most hockey fans.
Definitely some good players in Vancouver and now you have an idea how players perform under pressure.
A learning experience for Hughes and Pettersson who will be better next time.
Bad luck to play without your number 1 goalie and your best scorer in game 7.
Maybe next year.

As far as Mikheyev, now you know why the Leafs did not write a big cheque for the guy. He shrinks ihe playoffs i
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
Joshua probably ends up in Toronto.
- Shuswap Wap

Tanev will be their top target.

Luv him back here but probably priced himself outta here. Hronek traded would get back assets & cap space if PA went that route.
stefano76
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 21 @ 4:21 PM ET
Quite accurate for Tochett to mention that "they've finally got the respect of this town"...meaning, not even your own city respects you! While I actually do agree with Tochett though, the team has grown in this area, there is still a huge mountain to climb in terms of the rest of the world/league respecting the Canucks.

They play another team's intro song
They copied the crowd singing O'Canada
They copied the Bruins' "woooooo" after a goal
They copied the "get an ex player or celeb to turn the siren"
...but worst of all, they STILL pump fake crowd noises into the building to manufacture a raucous crowd! (quite pathetic considering I don't even think they need it, the crowd seems just fine to me).

And there is definitely NOT a rivalry between Van and CGY or Van and EDM. The rivialry is EDM vs CGY. Van has never competed with anyone. Maybe go ask the Climate Change Krayken for a date.

- JLO961



do we need to remind you of the Oilers from 2009 to 2017??

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