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Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

May 22 @ 7:45 PM ET
Flyers open to trade for Risto according to Ek. Very funny.

I hope they aren’t under the impression he is an asset with value. Something poop is coming back or picks will have to be added.

- StepfordSam


If they’re willing to retain on Risto I believe he’d have more value than many of us think. Same with Couturier.

A team could get Risto as low as $2.5m for 3 years. There’s more than a few teams that would be interested in him if the Flyers retain a little. For Couturier, a team could get him as low as $3.8m. He’d definitely have value with retention.

Retaining on Risto would be no sweat for me because I don’t see them becoming a contender in that time frame and there’s no reason to be adding any big $ players during that time either. It’ll come off right when they need to re-sign Michkov.

Retaining on Couturier would be a lot harder to do because it’s 6 more years. But for the right return, I’d do it.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

May 22 @ 7:45 PM ET
Keefe gets Devils job. He should do better then Ruff.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

May 22 @ 7:58 PM ET
If they’re willing to retain on Risto I believe he’d have more value than many of us think. Same with Couturier.

A team could get Risto as low as $2.5m for 3 years. There’s more than a few teams that would be interested in him if the Flyers retain a little. For Couturier, a team could get him as low as $3.8m. He’d definitely have value with retention.

Retaining on Risto would be no sweat for me because I don’t see them becoming a contender in that time frame and there’s no reason to be adding any big $ players during that time either. It’ll come off right when they need to re-sign Michkov.

Retaining on Couturier would be a lot harder to do because it’s 6 more years. But for the right return, I’d do it.

- Schmojo

Retaining on Risto will look like the Hayes deal. Very minimal return. Is that worth it?

To me the smart move is to ride the contract out for now.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 22 @ 8:21 PM ET
Tocchet wins Jack Adams Award.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

May 22 @ 8:24 PM ET
Tocchet wins Jack Adams Award.
- Minnyhock


I hope that helps him feel better after blowing a 3 game to 2 lead against Edmonton
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

May 22 @ 8:31 PM ET
Tocchet wins Jack Adams Award.
- Minnyhock

you misspelled Jorts
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 22 @ 8:53 PM ET
Tocchet wins Jack Adams Award.
- Minnyhock


How is that possible? He wasn't the hands down favorite.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

May 22 @ 9:15 PM ET
bird dog pa is just trying to be funny by reversing “too much, too long” and he has literally stumped this board
- anti-lame


Pretty much just being a wise arse killing time you got it.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

May 22 @ 9:42 PM ET
How is that possible? He wasn't the hands down favorite.
- MJL


It must be rigged. He finished 12th in the voting. He got 2 2nd place votes and a 3rd. How can a guy go from the favorite to bust in 12 games?



Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

May 22 @ 9:48 PM ET
Retaining on Risto will look like the Hayes deal. Very minimal return. Is that worth it?

To me the smart move is to ride the contract out for now.

- furio16


I believe they could get a better return for Risto then Hayes. If traded this summer, he will be traded a couple of months before turning 30, basically a year younger then Hayes. RHD dmen who have mobility seem to retain higher value then aging centers. Heck, look at how long Luke Schenn (he is now 34- making 2 75 million/yr) has stayed in the league and he was never mobile.
His cap hit is 2 million less per year, which is pretty significant.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

May 22 @ 9:50 PM ET
I’m liking Florida so far after two periods.
Jkrgoflyers
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

May 22 @ 9:54 PM ET
Michkov needs a center! Best way to get one is to draft one and let them grow together
- mikeyo27

Agree 100%
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

May 22 @ 10:20 PM ET
I think don't think it's fair to make this statement yet. It really depends on what else the Flyers do with their roster. What if Briere and company decide its best to part ways with Couts and they can trade him to another team and get out from all or most of his contract. The resigning TK and making him the captain of the team makes a lot of sense. So to me, I am open to trading TK if it will accelerate the rebuild by getting back a potential 1D or 1C, but I am also quite happy to keep him if other roster changes are made.
- jd250



Try to follow along…
1) tk is gonna want 8 year deal… you NEVER sign a close to 30 year old to 8 years(unless clear bonafide hall of fame type player)


2) you don’t EVER deviate from that principle. In no scenario is signing tk to long term contract a good move. None. Nada
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

May 22 @ 11:24 PM ET
Pretty much just being a wise arse killing time you got it.
- bird_dog_pa


You need to be careful with subtle humor around here, people are gonna hurt themselves.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

May 22 @ 11:32 PM ET
LMAO..Torts was 12th in voting...not even close to winning it.

https://x.com/JHallNBCS/s...Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse

he got 3 total votes...Tocchet blew him out f the water.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 23 @ 4:56 AM ET
Trade TK, not Farabee.

I don’t care what the coach thinks. Guy won’t be here much longer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 23 @ 7:13 AM ET
Try to follow along…
1) tk is gonna want 8 year deal… you NEVER sign a close to 30 year old to 8 years(unless clear bonafide hall of fame type player)


2) you don’t EVER deviate from that principle. In no scenario is signing tk to long term contract a good move. None. Nada

- Stayin alive


Your blanket principle of you NEVER sign a close to 30 year old player unless a clear bona fide hall of Fame player continues to be foolishness. Each player needs to be taken on an individual basis and the situation judged by its own merit.

Your second statement is also foolish. If hypothetically the Flyers were a legit cup contender in this situation, then re-signing a player like Konecny to a long term deal would be prudent.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 23 @ 7:15 AM ET
I believe they could get a better return for Risto then Hayes. If traded this summer, he will be traded a couple of months before turning 30, basically a year younger then Hayes. RHD dmen who have mobility seem to retain higher value then aging centers. Heck, look at how long Luke Schenn (he is now 34- making 2 75 million/yr) has stayed in the league and he was never mobile.
His cap hit is 2 million less per year, which is pretty significant.

- Trox88



RR needs to be a deadline deal, hoping he stays healthy and shows some of what he was showing when he was.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 23 @ 7:15 AM ET
LMAO..Torts was 12th in voting...not even close to winning it.

https://x.com/JHallNBCS/s...Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse

he got 3 total votes...Tocchet blew him out f the water.

- TheFreak


He was the hands down favorite. What happened?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 23 @ 7:17 AM ET
RR needs to be a deadline deal, hoping he stays healthy and shows some of what he was showing when he was.
- wcorvette


With two more years left, unlikely to be a deadline deal unless he plays really well. Also unlikely
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

May 23 @ 7:39 AM ET
Tocchet wins Jack Adams Award.
- Minnyhock



and here were were being told he was a lock for the top 3.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

May 23 @ 7:45 AM ET
I believe they could get a better return for Risto then Hayes. If traded this summer, he will be traded a couple of months before turning 30, basically a year younger then Hayes. RHD dmen who have mobility seem to retain higher value then aging centers. Heck, look at how long Luke Schenn (he is now 34- making 2 75 million/yr) has stayed in the league and he was never mobile.
His cap hit is 2 million less per year, which is pretty significant.

- Trox88


There’s always a GM who will take on some of these contracts and players. I don’t get the TB trade yesterday
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 23 @ 7:49 AM ET
RR needs to be a deadline deal, hoping he stays healthy and shows some of what he was showing when he was.
- wcorvette


What was the injury he had again? I don’t remember. I’d definitely look to retain some salary to move him. It’s ridiculous what we pay for him as a bottom pair dman.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

May 23 @ 7:55 AM ET
Tocchet wins Jack Adams Award.
- Minnyhock

Insert finger in cheek and make popping sound. We know who the real Jack Adams award winner is

But what I love the most is all three of MJLs favorite head coaches are making golf reservations today, Monty, Brindy and Tocchet. But hey, according to him they are modern NHL coaches and the best in the biz
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

May 23 @ 7:59 AM ET
Try to follow along…
1) tk is gonna want 8 year deal… you NEVER sign a close to 30 year old to 8 years(unless clear bonafide hall of fame type player)


2) you don’t EVER deviate from that principle. In no scenario is signing tk to long term contract a good move. None. Nada

- Stayin alive

See if you can follow along ... the only team that can give TK an 8 year deal is the Flyers and I'll tell you right now they are not going over 6 years. Secondly other teams might be willing to go 7 years which is their max, but I think this is unlikely also. Also, if TK wants to truly stay here he is going to have to give the Flyers some amount of home team discount, otherwise he will be traded. But be careful, TK is not going to bring back as much as you might think in a trade, since he would have to be extended to a big contract. Fletcher is not back in the NHL yet, is he?
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