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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 24 @ 12:03 PM ET
But maybe Utah gives up their 6th pick.
- jd250

why would utah give up their pick when your first pick in your franchise is always your most important
flylerid
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.13.2023

May 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
If I was trading TK I would want a 1st round pick, a 2nd and a prospect. The problem with TK is he is due a big extension, so that will limit the teams that will want him.
- jd250


Without the security of knowing he could be resigned, or resigning him, you're not going to get that. Best bet would be to extend him irregardless. Then you can trade him later if you give him a modified NMC that doesn't kick in til next year or you cound give him a full NMC if he gave a discount on his services and keep him. He's our best player, and he wants to stay. That's something lots of teams wish they had.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
dont see joel having this kind of value. yes you will have to add.

dont think joel and florida 1st gets you #5

- hello it's me 2050


That's why I said take back a deal like Anderson. Money matches and I know MON wants to move that contract.

I have no need for Deslaurier and can send him to Lehigh and play anderson in the bottom 6 if needed.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 12:14 PM ET
now that ryan mc is back in Tampa, will they look to move a dman.....like serg or cernak
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 12:17 PM ET
That's why I said take back a deal like Anderson. Money matches and I know MON wants to move that contract.

I have no need for Deslaurier and can send him to Lehigh and play anderson in the bottom 6 if needed.

- J35Bacher

still not enough to me.

they have Winnipeg 1st and someone else 1st in 25. Maybe those 2 and Anderson for Joel + something works better
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 12:18 PM ET
You just said, the Flyers lack quality skill and talent. Farabee has neither! Just face it, you are wrong about Farabee, he is just an OK player with OK skill. The Flyers can do better.
- jd250


Obviously, you didn't understand the statement.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 24 @ 12:19 PM ET
why would utah give up their pick when your first pick in your franchise is always your most important
- 2Real



Only technically. Many people say that because they want to make a splash immediately in their new town, they will look to add good players right now. As opposed to drafting a guy who may not even be on the team for 2-3 years.

I would imagine the franchise cares more about immediate success than normally.
flylerid
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.13.2023

May 24 @ 12:20 PM ET
Hey Bill,
What do you think the chances are that they try Michkov at Center? I remember reading that they experimented with it in the KHL, but it got abandoned. That was around when he was getting snubbed by SKA so I don't know if that was a hockey move or a political one. If the Flyers get a hold of him during this period where he still is and unfinished product, do you think that might be something they try?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 12:20 PM ET
Go review Farabee's goals last year and then come back to me. You are the only one here that is uniformed.
- jd250


I did review his goals the first time you made that stupid statement. You're wrong. In replied directly to you with a complete breakdown of how his 22 goals were scored. Of course you ignored it because you don't deal in reality but in fantasy. It also shows that you viewing that as a negative, shows that you don't know the game of hockey. Around the net is how goals are scored. Which is why its labeled the high danger zone.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 12:23 PM ET
I didn't say that. Of course Farabee has talent, he is an NHL player. I just said he has OK skill. Nothing exceptional. Not sure you can really argue with this, can you?
- jd250


The Flyers don't have a single exceptional player on their team. You continue to show an inability to accurately assess any player.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

May 24 @ 12:23 PM ET
Waddell out as GM in Carolina. Tulsky named interim GM, which is very interesting. Waddell has been rumored to have interviewed with Columbus.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
Wait .. I'm sorry, Jake is not a much better player than TK. Come on, we need to start giving TK some credit here. He is a legitimate 30+ goal scorer that plays 5v5, PK and PP and lead the league in short handed goals. He is a complete player, a leader and an agitator. A lot of teams would love to have TK.
- jd250


Konecny is not the player that Guentzel is.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

May 24 @ 12:26 PM ET
now that ryan mc is back in Tampa, will they look to move a dman.....like serg or cernak
- hello it's me 2050


Or they could trade for a player who will go on LTIR to start the season. They had Brent Seabrook on the cap for the last few years- his contract just ended. I am curious how it plays out.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 24 @ 12:26 PM ET
Hey Bill,
What do you think the chances are that they try Michkov at Center? I remember reading that they experimented with it in the KHL, but it got abandoned. That was around when he was getting snubbed by SKA so I don't know if that was a hockey move or a political one. If the Flyers get a hold of him during this period where he still is and unfinished product, do you think that might be something they try?

- flylerid



Personally I hope not. It was an experiment in preseason by their idiot coach that was for like 3 games, who then (IMO) held his lack of success against him when he didn't produce at an unfamiliar position. (sound familiar?)

Once he was sent to Sochi he was back at wing where he belongs.

The Flyers IMO need to set up the entire franchise to benefit this kid in any way possible. Play him where he is most comfortable, implement a system that most benefits his style of play, and on and on. They need to run the whole thing through him as the tip of the spear.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
when are you going to realize that trading TK will not bring you a #1 dman or a #1 center.

also stop with the hometown discount nonsense. Every player pretty much says they want to stay wherever it is they are at. it is player speak.

- hello it's me 2050

The only hometown advantage is the ability to offer an 8 year deal while everyone else can only offer 7.
flylerid
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.13.2023

May 24 @ 12:36 PM ET
Personally I hope not. It was an experiment in preseason by their idiot coach that was for like 3 games, who then (IMO) held his lack of success against him when he didn't produce at an unfamiliar position. (sound familiar?)

Once he was sent to Sochi he was back at wing where he belongs.

The Flyers IMO need to set up the entire franchise to benefit this kid in any way possible. Play him where he is most comfortable, implement a system that most benefits his style of play, and on and on. They need to run the whole thing through him as the tip of the spear.

- MBFlyerfan

I agree for the most part. However we are developing a kid, vs aquiring an established veteran. A very talented young player, but still 19. I'm hoping we are ready to challenge him to grow, rather than simping to his already impressive skill set. I think now is a good time to see what other untapped potential he's got.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 12:39 PM ET
I agree for the most part. However we are developing a kid, vs aquiring an established veteran. A very talented young player, but still 19. I'm hoping we are ready to challenge him to grow, rather than simping to his already impressive skill set. I think now is a good time to see what other untapped potential he's got.
- flylerid


That would be classic Flyers and a continuation of their flawed player development practices. Take a young player, put him in a situation that takes him away from his strengths and try to make him what he's not or tie his hands behind his back to make him a "two way" player.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 12:39 PM ET
I did review his goals the first time you made that stupid statement. You're wrong. In replied directly to you with a complete breakdown of how his 22 goals were scored. Of course you ignored it because you don't deal in reality but in fantasy. It also shows that you viewing that as a negative, shows that you don't know the game of hockey. Around the net is how goals are scored. Which is why its labeled the high danger zone.
- MJL

is there really any need for the unprovoked attack?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 12:40 PM ET
Waddell out as GM in Carolina. Tulsky named interim GM, which is very interesting. Waddell has been rumored to have interviewed with Columbus.
- Trox88

wonder why only interim? mutual decision? hope is the full time guy let's see what he can do.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 12:41 PM ET
Or they could trade for a player who will go on LTIR to start the season. They had Brent Seabrook on the cap for the last few years- his contract just ended. I am curious how it plays out.
- Trox88

def seems like a very odd acquisition on the surface.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
wonder why only interim? mutual decision? hope is the full time guy let's see what he can do.
- hello it's me 2050



Dundon's policy is always to open it up to everyone but in all likelihood Tulsky will have the interim tag removed and they'll add another Assistant GM. Probably Justin Williams.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

May 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
Dundon's policy is always to open it up to everyone but in all likelihood Tulsky will have the interim tag removed and they'll add another Assistant GM. Probably Justin Williams.
- BINGO!

lets say for arguments sake he doesn't get it. Would he look to leave you think?
flylerid
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.13.2023

May 24 @ 12:48 PM ET
That would be classic Flyers and a continuation of their flawed player development practices. Take a young player, put him in a situation that takes him away from his strengths and try to make him what he's not or tie his hands behind his back to make him a "two way" player.
- MJL


Versus the flawed player development of many softer teams by not teaching or requiring talented players to backcheck? I'm not saying he's gotta be a checking center, but Defensive responsible does not have to come at the cost of points.

It's a moot point til he gets here and we see where he is, but it's also worth noting he's not a finished product yet.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 24 @ 12:48 PM ET
lets say for arguments sake he doesn't get it. Would he look to leave you think?
- hello it's me 2050


Maybe. I would be stunned if he doesn't though. Dundon adores him and keeps asking him to run one of his other companies instead.
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

May 24 @ 12:49 PM ET
is there really any need for the unprovoked attack?
- hello it's me 2050


You got to admit some dumbarse shiat was said.


I agree seems like his posts are for triggering people, no real hockey knowledge coming thru just uninformed personal opinion.
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