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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
that seems like a very weird trade to move up 2 spots
- dmnted


You see these trades all the time when a team really wants a player that is still on the board.

On may 24th? I don't remember ever seeing this.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
In other news, booze is coming to corner stores:

https://news.ontario.ca/e...ages-starting-this-summer

- Atomic Wedgie

not till after summer is over but yeah
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
You see these trades all the time when a team really wants a player that is still on the board.

On may 24th? I don't remember ever seeing this.

- Scabeh


so true

chicago does have a bunch of picks to use up
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
And you know this how, exactly?
- Atomic Wedgie


The Shanaplan.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
yes it was the only time he wasn't suspended from the playoffs and see what happens ...
- dmnted


If Kadri had a 5 year deal and got suspended 4 times out of 5 but won a Cup the one time he didn't, I'd take it every single second of the day over Kerfoot.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 24 @ 1:53 PM ET
If Kadri had a 5 year deal and got suspended 4 times out of 5 but won a Cup the one time he didn't, I'd take it every single second of the day over Kerfoot.
- Rare_Jewel

So why didn't you share your crystal ball with Leafs management?

It would have been very helpful at the time.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 24 @ 1:55 PM ET
If Kadri had a 5 year deal and got suspended 4 times out of 5 but won a Cup the one time he didn't, I'd take it every single second of the day over Kerfoot.
- Rare_Jewel

good to know
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 24 @ 2:02 PM ET
So why didn't you share your crystal ball with Leafs management?

It would have been very helpful at the time.

- Atomic Wedgie


You didn't need a crystal ball to see the stupidity in that move. No different than watching Dubas the dumbass trade down to pick Dermott and Bracco over Konecny. Trade down to take Aho or Carlo? Or Cirelli? Genius. Dermott? Idiotic.

It would be like telling somebody, don't run a red light in traffic.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

May 24 @ 2:03 PM ET
In other news, booze is coming to corner stores:

https://news.ontario.ca/e...ages-starting-this-summer

- Atomic Wedgie

Wait, so up until now you folks can't go to a gas station or grocery store to buy booze? You have to visit a dedicated "liquor store" ???
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
That's a very weird trade. Mostly because that's the kind of thing you'd see at the draft when teams know how it's going and who's left on the board.
- Scabeh


Yeah, unless there is another move for a player and the ask is a lower 1st?
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 24 @ 2:05 PM ET
Wait, so up until now you folks can't go to a gas station or grocery store to buy booze? You have to visit a dedicated "liquor store" ???
- GalacticStone


Yessir. Except for wine, local Ontario wine (aka the crappy stuff) has been available at grocery stores for a decade or more. Beer was a recent add to some grocery stores, but yes, it's been such a stupid rule forever, mainly because the Beer Store and Liquor Stores are government-owned, so they had a boatload of cash.

Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
Wait, so up until now you folks can't go to a gas station or grocery store to buy booze? You have to visit a dedicated "liquor store" ???
- GalacticStone


It's literally called the "Liquor Control Board of Ontario".

Fun stuff.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 24 @ 2:10 PM ET
Yeah, unless there is another move for a player and the ask is a lower 1st?
- gravyface


"I'm sorry, we would have made this deal if it was a top 18 pick.... #20 is just wayyy too late for this to work".




Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

May 24 @ 2:10 PM ET
That's a very weird trade. Mostly because that's the kind of thing you'd see at the draft when teams know how it's going and who's left on the board.
- Scabeh


NYI wins this. This is a unique year where there is very little consensus from picks 5-25. It's all over the map. NYI scouts probably informed Lou that they truly have 5 or 6 guys at #18 that they are indifferent about. And that there is no chance they will all be off the board at #20. So if we move down 2 spots, we'll probably have the same group of 5 or 6 guys still sitting there. And maybe a similar issue to go from 50 to 54. In return we get an extra pick at #61. So we're getting 3 shots between 20-61 instead of 2. No idea why Chicago would do this. Very good chance whoever they pick at #18 is probably still there at #20 given the uncertainty of this particular draft.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
Wait, so up until now you folks can't go to a gas station or grocery store to buy booze? You have to visit a dedicated "liquor store" ???
- GalacticStone

correct and we had to visit a dedicated "beer store" up until recently
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

May 24 @ 2:12 PM ET
Yessir. Except for wine, local Ontario wine (aka the crappy stuff) has been available at grocery stores for a decade or more. Beer was a recent add to some grocery stores, but yes, it's been such a stupid rule forever, mainly because the Beer Store and Liquor Stores are government-owned, so they had a boatload of cash.
- gravyface

It varies widely by state (or even county/city) in the US, but here in my neck of Florida, you can buy everything but hard liquor almost anywhere. Gas stations, convenience stores, grocery stores, and even department stores can offer beer and wine products. You can only buy hard liquor spirits at liquor stores. In my county, you can't buy any alcohol before noon on sunday.

It's funny watching men checkout for groceries at Walmart or Costco here. Every cart has at least one case of beer in it. The women have bottles/boxes of wine in their carts.

Walmarts sell hard liquor by having a separate dedicated liquor-only store next door that is attached to the same building, but has it's own entrance. The Walmart near me actually has a wide selection of premium bourbons.



GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

May 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
correct and we had to visit a dedicated "beer store" up until recently
- dmnted

Madness. That is absolute madness to this Florida Man.

You have legal pot, but couldn't get beer at grocery stores.

Nuts.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
Yessir. Except for wine, local Ontario wine (aka the crappy stuff) has been available at grocery stores for a decade or more. Beer was a recent add to some grocery stores, but yes, it's been such a stupid rule forever, mainly because the Beer Store and Liquor Stores are government-owned, so they had a boatload of cash.
- gravyface


Hummm..... I was under the impression that it was a Belgium's company Interbrew that ran the Beer Store
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
Did Dubas become the GM of the Islanders?


- Atomic Wedgie

Lou seems PRETTY confident HIS GUY will be there at 20!
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
Madness. That is absolute madness to this Florida Man.

You have legal pot, but couldn't get beer at grocery stores.

Nuts.

- GalacticStone

weed has been legal now for 4 or 5 years but the black market is still going strong
I'm growing a plant this year
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 24 @ 2:18 PM ET
Yessir. Except for wine, local Ontario wine (aka the crappy stuff) has been available at grocery stores for a decade or more. Beer was a recent add to some grocery stores, but yes, it's been such a stupid rule forever, mainly because the Beer Store and Liquor Stores are government-owned, so they had a boatload of cash.
- gravyface

Beer Stores are not government owned - a very common misperception.

It goes back to post-prohibition.

Government didn't want the responsibility of selling beer because it required refrigeration.

So the beer companies formed a co-op: the Brewers Retail.

Over time, Molson and Labatt's swallowed up all of the smaller brewers, until they owned all but 3% (Sleeman's owned the rest).

Government forced them to dilute it a few years ago, but it's still controlled by the big 2.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

May 24 @ 2:18 PM ET
Needed the picks for a Marner trade.


Edit: or JT back to the Island
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 24 @ 2:19 PM ET
Hummm..... I was under the impression that it was a Belgium's company Interbrew that ran the Beer Store
- dmnted

Yep.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 24 @ 2:19 PM ET
Wait, so up until now you folks can't go to a gas station or grocery store to buy booze? You have to visit a dedicated "liquor store" ???
- GalacticStone

Forgive my puritan heart, but I've always found it weird that you can buy beer at a gas station.

I know on a certain level it you drive to a liquor store, you drive to a gas station - no difference.

But it's weird.
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

May 24 @ 2:22 PM ET
You didn't need a crystal ball to see the stupidity in that move. No different than watching Dubas the dumbass trade down to pick Dermott and Bracco over Konecny. Trade down to take Aho or Carlo? Or Cirelli? Genius. Dermott? Idiotic.

It would be like telling somebody, don't run a red light in traffic.

- Rare_Jewel


Not defending the moves but with all your vast knowledge I am amazed that you are not running your own NHL team. Or maybe AHL..Or CHL....
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