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washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 30 @ 12:05 PM ET
amateur gm drafting out of organizational needs


I saw it coming 100 miles away

dan did not see it coming

- homiedclown


Do you think the polish on top of Adams dome effects the scouts abilities to watch the youtube highlights they use to draft?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 30 @ 12:05 PM ET
it's always better to have a few extra eyes on things, despite what you think

the banners in key center are blinding some of you

- homiedclown



My gripe would be/have been with not having a PoHO to have kept these scouts in check and doing their jobs.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

May 30 @ 12:06 PM ET
Rosen, Poltapov, Leinonen

vs.

Cossa or Wallstedt, Zellweger, one of Casey, Lueau or Warren

There's no question which grouping of the above would greater benefit the Sabres.

Worst is it's not hindsight, as all the players I mentioned were being called out as Sabres picks each time the Sabrses picked.

- kingcong39


Indeed. They’d still be picking 11th (probably) but the system would be so balanced with high end throughout.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 30 @ 12:07 PM ET
amateur gm drafting out of organizational needs


I saw it coming 100 miles away

dan did not see it coming

- homiedclown


I just thought it was a mistake. Organizational need was defense not goalie at the time. And they could of gotten him a round later if not later than that.


But yes you were right that they would draft him.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 12:08 PM ET
Bruins employ 20 scouts.

Do they hit on their 3rd-7th rounders more than anyone else? no.

- DirtyDan

flip side, they are not constant sellers so they have about half to picks to work with


if having an intelligent conversation on the topic
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 12:09 PM ET
I just thought it was a mistake. Organizational need was defense not goalie at the time. And they could of gotten him a round later if not later than that.


But yes you were right that they would draft him.

- DirtyDan

I thought they were getting the other guy though

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 30 @ 12:10 PM ET
Rosen, Poltapov, Leinonen

vs.

Cossa or Wallstedt, Zellweger, one of Casey, Lueau or Warren

There's no question which grouping of the above would greater benefit the Sabres.

Worst is it's not hindsight, as all the players I mentioned were being called out as Sabres picks each time the Sabrses picked.

- kingcong39


better picks are nice, but you can't put a price on making Forton feel valued
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 12:10 PM ET
My gripe would be/have been with not having a PoHO to have kept these scouts in check and doing their jobs.
- Powerslave

you are not wrong



adams was given the key with all these assets and no form of checks and balances

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 30 @ 12:11 PM ET
Leinonen was the grossest pick this franchise has made since Dennis Persson
- TheSabresTaco


The Leinonen pick was made to appease Forton?

Speaking of, you broke drafting success out by GM regime, but how many regimes have Forton and Devine made it through?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 12:11 PM ET
Do you think the polish on top of Adams dome effects the scouts abilities to watch the youtube highlights they use to draft?
- washedup20

when the gm and owner thinks you are going to be cup contenders when you sign hall and instead you get owen power, you have issues
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 30 @ 12:11 PM ET
I thought they were getting the other guy though


- homiedclown


Kokko?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 30 @ 12:12 PM ET
Leinonen was the grossest pick this franchise has made since Dennis Persson
- TheSabresTaco

Blasphemy
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 30 @ 12:12 PM ET
You're better than this. You know why they gutted their scouting department and started over. It had/has ZERO to do with money. And you also know they've been building it back up for a couple years.

If all it took was having the "most" scouts, and zero qualifications, all you Hockeybuzz jamokes would have a job downtown πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‚πŸ˜

- Powerslave


If they gutted their scouting department due to drafting ineptitude, why have Forton and Devine lasted so long?

Why not clean out the entire house?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 12:13 PM ET
The Leinonen pick was made to appease Forton?

Speaking of, you broke drafting success out by GM regime, but how many regimes have Forton and Devine made it through?

- kingcong39

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 30 @ 12:13 PM ET
You're better than this. You know why they gutted their scouting department and started over. It had/has ZERO to do with money. And you also know they've been building it back up for a couple years.

If all it took was having the "most" scouts, and zero qualifications, all you Hockeybuzz jamokes would have a job downtown πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‚πŸ˜

- Powerslave

About Time!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 12:13 PM ET
Kokko?
- DirtyDan

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 30 @ 12:15 PM ET
better picks are nice, but you can't put a price on making Forton feel valued
- Lunaion


Priceless -- Queue the old Mastercard commercial.

I don't understand why they seemingly cater to Forton or Devine.

I also don't understand why they still have jobs.

Did you see Lance's piece today?

It was like a PR writeup for Devine and Forton.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 30 @ 12:16 PM ET
The Leinonen pick was made to appease Forton?

Speaking of, you broke drafting success out by GM regime, but how many regimes have Forton and Devine made it through?

- kingcong39

Guy should get a pink slip for that one!
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 30 @ 12:16 PM ET
Komarov worked tirelessly to evolve from a lanky, raw defenseman into a formidable presence on the ice. His dedication never wavered. At 6-foot-4, Komarov is unlike any player the Sabres have drafted in recent years.

https://buffalonews.com/s...ef-9ab1-43fb28fd9c2c.html

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 30 @ 12:17 PM ET
Guy should get a pink slip for that one!
- Buff36


They should've received the pink slip a while ago.

Don't just get rid of only some of those responsible for a history of bad picks.

Clear them all out.

But the Sabres never do anything all the way.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 30 @ 12:18 PM ET
Komarov worked tirelessly to evolve from a lanky, raw defenseman into a formidable presence on the ice. His dedication never wavered. At 6-foot-4, Komarov is unlike any player the Sabres have drafted in recent years.

https://buffalonews.com/s...ef-9ab1-43fb28fd9c2c.html


- kingcong39

Getting nasty to.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 30 @ 12:20 PM ET
Priceless -- Queue the old Mastercard commercial.

I don't understand why they seemingly cater to Forton or Devine.

I also don't understand why they still have jobs.

Did you see Lance's piece today?

It was like a PR writeup for Devine and Forton.

- kingcong39


I'd include Nightingale in there.

Don't have a News sub, so I don't check often.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 30 @ 12:31 PM ET
Getting nasty to.
- Buff36


Roch bound next year?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 30 @ 12:31 PM ET
I'd include Nightingale in there.

Don't have a News sub, so I don't check often.

- Lunaion


https://www.textise.net/

Copy the Buffalo News link I shared, and dump it into the textise URL box, then hit textise.

You should be able to read the articles without paying.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 30 @ 12:38 PM ET
They should've received the pink slip a while ago.

Don't just get rid of only some of those responsible for a history of bad picks.

Clear them all out.

But the Sabres never do anything all the way.

- kingcong39

Agree
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