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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 12:33 PM ET
You hear what you want to hear when you read their words.
This is the kind of player they really mean, though.


- Ratsreign


Spot on.
I'd love to see the Sabres trade for him

Krebs +2025 2nd
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 31 @ 12:37 PM ET
You hear what you want to hear when you read their words.
This is the kind of player they really mean, though.


- Ratsreign

Shh! That's Top Secret Rat! I really want Knuckle draggers! Wink 😉 😜
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 12:37 PM ET
That's the line that makes me question the idea.
- Lunaion


Why?
Not following.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 31 @ 12:38 PM ET
@CapFriendly
We're 1 month away from NHL Free Agency. Here are the top 20 pending UFA forwards ranked by points last season:

1. S Reinhart (FLA)
2. S Stamkos (TBL)
3. J Guentzel (CAR)
4. J Marchessault (VGK)
5. J Pavelski (DAL)
6. M Duchene (DAL)
7. S Monahan (WPG)
8. J Drouin (COL)
9. T Toffoli (WPG)
10. V Tarasenko (FLA)
11. T Teräväinen (CAR)
12. C Stephenson (VGK)
13. A Henrique (EDM)
14. D Perron (DET)
15. M Domi (TOR)
16. P Kane (DET)
17. E Lindholm (VAN)
18. A Mantha (VGK)
19. T Bertuzzi (TOR)
20. D Sprong (DET)
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 31 @ 12:39 PM ET
who helps this team more in the fall

Vatrano or Ehlers

- homiedclown

Neither
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 31 @ 12:40 PM ET
Why?
Not following.

- IonSabres


Enormous gap between Marner and Skinner and they are completely different players. I just don't see the Toronto appeal there.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 12:42 PM ET
Do you consider 3 years at $4.4M per coming on the cheap for Roslovic?
- kingcong39

anything 5 per or less
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

May 31 @ 12:49 PM ET
The prediction business is tough.

Their contract predictions are based on percent of cap limit.

Always have been, and it's why people that scream how can Dahlin make more then Makar don't understand anything other then salary.

Keeping the predictions based on what they have is the smart move for now, with how long it has been since the cap rose.

Will GM's be unable to resist handing out bloated contracts again?

One example is Konecny is looking for north of $10M per.

Is he really worth that?

- kingcong39


I get all that, my point of view would not be to flat increase across the board (don’t know what they did) but rather have a sliding increase scale for top of the lineup players. That’s all.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
@CapFriendly
We're 1 month away from NHL Free Agency. Here are the top 20 pending UFA forwards ranked by points last season:

1. S Reinhart (FLA)
2. S Stamkos (TBL)
3. J Guentzel (CAR)
4. J Marchessault (VGK)
5. J Pavelski (DAL)
6. M Duchene (DAL)
7. S Monahan (WPG)
8. J Drouin (COL)
9. T Toffoli (WPG)
10. V Tarasenko (FLA)
11. T Teräväinen (CAR)
12. C Stephenson (VGK)
13. A Henrique (EDM)
14. D Perron (DET)
15. M Domi (TOR)
16. P Kane (DET)
17. E Lindholm (VAN)
18. A Mantha (VGK)
19. T Bertuzzi (TOR)
20. D Sprong (DET)

- Lunaion


Kevyn saw the post, he is wondering why you are looking at the top 20?
He asked if you could post the bottom 5 or 10
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 1:01 PM ET
Kevyn saw the post, he is wondering why you are looking at the top 20?
He asked if you could post the bottom 5 or 10

- IonSabres

we refused to sign a skilled puck moving prospect in Lindgren so we can bring back Stillman

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 1:04 PM ET
will gm's get fired over it?
- homiedclown


yes
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 1:05 PM ET
Enormous gap between Marner and Skinner and they are completely different players. I just don't see the Toronto appeal there.
- Lunaion


The benefit is in the bigger picture:
- if the 3rd party team holds say $3m, then they get $5m of Cap Space through this trade to be used on something else like another Dman
- get a a 25 - 35 goal scorer in Skinner, who could pop 40
- get a RhD that has played top 4 before and could be a useful partner in Joker

That's not a bad proposition.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 1:06 PM ET
who helps this team more in the fall

Vatrano or Ehlers

- homiedclown


Ehlers in a land slide
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 1:06 PM ET
yes
- TheSabresTaco

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 31 @ 1:07 PM ET
Kevyn saw the post, he is wondering why you are looking at the top 20?
He asked if you could post the bottom 5 or 10

- IonSabres


That's easy: Girgensons, Jost, Okposo, Olofsson, Robinson, Comrie
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 1:07 PM ET
I get all that, my point of view would not be to flat increase across the board (don’t know what they did) but rather have a sliding increase scale for top of the lineup players. That’s all.
- SDSabre


That would be the way to do it. Those players who signed one year deals, and players like them that now will become FA's is likely where the bigger percentage of increase would be.
Then again, I could be 100% wrong too.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 1:08 PM ET
Enormous gap .
- Lunaion

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 1:08 PM ET
That's easy: Girgensons, Jost, Okposo, Olofsson, Robinson, Comrie
- Lunaion


Offseason checklist complete.

I'll tell kevyn to invite you all over for a trampoline party in the back yard
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 1:09 PM ET
That's easy: Girgensons, Jost, Okposo, Olofsson, Robinson, Comrie
- Lunaion


Nicely played.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 1:09 PM ET
Ehlers in a land slide
- TheSabresTaco

vantrano's pk skills mean nothing?

ehlers is much better 5 on 5
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 31 @ 1:10 PM ET
The benefit is in the bigger picture:
- if the 3rd party team holds say $3m, then they get $5m of Cap Space through this trade to be used on something else like another Dman
- get a a 25 - 35 goal scorer in Skinner, who could pop 40
- get a RhD that has played top 4 before and could be a useful partner in Joker

That's not a bad proposition.

- IonSabres


You don't think Toronto would see through most of that?

Buffalo might not be able to land a top 20 UFA, but Toronto can sign multiple, below market value.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 31 @ 1:22 PM ET
@CapFriendly
We're 1 month away from NHL Free Agency. Here are the top 20 pending UFA forwards ranked by points last season:

1. S Reinhart (FLA)
2. S Stamkos (TBL)
3. J Guentzel (CAR)
4. J Marchessault (VGK)
5. J Pavelski (DAL)
6. M Duchene (DAL)
7. S Monahan (WPG)
8. J Drouin (COL)
9. T Toffoli (WPG)
10. V Tarasenko (FLA)
11. T Teräväinen (CAR)
12. C Stephenson (VGK)
13. A Henrique (EDM)
14. D Perron (DET)
15. M Domi (TOR)
16. P Kane (DET)
17. E Lindholm (VAN)
18. A Mantha (VGK)
19. T Bertuzzi (TOR)
20. D Sprong (DET)

- Lunaion



That list. 🤢🤢

Not to mention 25% of those players won’t make it to UFA.

NHL offseason and UFA is awful.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 31 @ 1:24 PM ET
I get all that, my point of view would not be to flat increase across the board (don’t know what they did) but rather have a sliding increase scale for top of the lineup players. That’s all.
- SDSabre


How do you go about doing that based on any data other then 'feeling?

You lower the cap limit for certain groups of players?

If so, how much do you lower it?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 31 @ 1:25 PM ET
That list. 🤢🤢

Not to mention 25% of those players won’t make it to UFA.

NHL offseason and UFA is awful.

- ImThatGuy


There are a number of players on that list who would help Buffalo.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 31 @ 1:30 PM ET
There are a number of players on that list who would help Buffalo.
- kingcong39


Not sure of his exact point, but the list does thin out fast.

Just gonna keep saying they need a trade before UFA. Can't count on getting what they need from UFA.
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