Hot sauce challenge to determine who stays and goes.

Mandatory team meeting with a big table full of wings and hot sauces laid out. Any player who refuses has their contract terminated on the spot. Any player who pussies out and can't make it through the entire line of sauces is traded for a bag of pucks if we can find a team desperate enough to take such weak human beings.

Cry, guzzle milk, vomit or otherwise make a spectacle of yourself - traded.
- GalacticStone

Wings…that’s where I shine, muther(frank)ers!

I rue the day I need to be on here bad enough to have 1 alt let alone 3 or 4
- jribout

Yeah, alt accounts speaks volumes as the character of the individual.

Pretty good read on Domi on PPP.

I'm kind of torn with him. He was much better in the back half, but I feel like his last name buys him a lot of leash, particularly in Toronto. He's still not very good defensively, and he's a playmaking winger at best.

Marner scores 50 points in 57 playoff games, yet some Leaf fans think he does nothing in the playoffs. This year's playoffs he was playing with a bad ankle but he gets no break from criticism, unlike no heart Matthews and floating Willie. Pathetic. I don't believe some Leaf fans.
- Baunrules21

my complaint the whole time has been how his scoring dries up as the series go on and get tougher, he shrinks. that played out again.

Leafs cant score in the playoffs as things are currently configured. even with magic mitch 50 points

Jeremy Rutherford saying Tkachuk is in trade talks.

2nd time a big name has said this.

My soninlaw, my grandson, and I did the hot sauce challenge.

The soninlaw bought them. He ordered them from online somewhere and I think it was the same lineup of sauces they use on the podcast that started it all. I forget how many sauces it was, but I think it was 6 or 8, give or take.

The first three or four were easy. That last "atomic" or "nuclear" one was hell on earth. I maintained my composure, but it was brutal. I can't imagine people eat that for culinary reasons and it must be a gimmick. You can only taste napalm and not the food.

However, there was one sauce in the middle that was hot and very tasty. I forget the brand name, but it was made with "Carolina Reaper" peppers. I was pleasantly surprised by the taste. It had a very sweet and pleasing pepper flavor that was distinct from the considerable heat is also brought. If I didn't have gastric ulcers, I would eat it for the taste.

My soninlaw still buys a bottle of it from time to time, but he's out of it right now. I can ask what the brand is if anyone is curious.

Jeremy Rutherford saying Tkachuk is in trade talks.

2nd time a big name has said this.
- Santo_44

wut?

Pretty good read on Domi on PPP.

I'm kind of torn with him. He was much better in the back half, but I feel like his last name buys him a lot of leash, particularly in Toronto. He's still not very good defensively, and he's a playmaking winger at best.
- gravyface

I agree about the Domi name. It does carry some legacy value. It doesn't mean much unless it produces standings points. I think it is likely a motivator for Max. He knows what an icon of hardnosed hockey that his dad is and I think it gives him a little extra fear of failure that some players might not have.

Tie never scored more than 15 goals or 29 points. Max had a 28g season, a 17g, and two 18g seasons.

If Max sticks around long term and recovers his scoring touch, he will leave a solid legacy of his own with the Leafs. I think he will do his daddy proud if he re-signs.

Pretty good read on Domi on PPP.

I'm kind of torn with him. He was much better in the back half, but I feel like his last name buys him a lot of leash, particularly in Toronto. He's still not very good defensively, and he's a playmaking winger at best.
- gravyface

“Borderline 4th liner”

I think they resign Marner 8 X $12.
Get rid of Bertuzzi, Domi, Sammy, Brodie, Lily.

Resign Edmundson.
Get a goalie.
Buy new deck chairs.
Revisit after the Tavares contract is gone or half.

🤷🏼‍♂️

my complaint the whole time has been how his scoring dries up as the series go on and get tougher, he shrinks. that played out again.

Leafs cant score in the playoffs as things are currently configured. even with magic mitch 50 points
- senstroll

What amplifies the problem is that this team was built to be an overwhelming offensive juggernaut that could outscore it's deficiencies elsewhere, which gets flipped upside down in the playoffs, where we've been actually pretty solid defensively, but can't score.

Marner, Matthews, and Tavares have all failed to live up to their contracts in the playoffs. Nylander imo, gets a bye because of his (prior) contract being extremely reasonable and generally excellent value.

So you have to look at these players and think, can we run this back again with a new coach who hopefully can unlock this untapped potential? When will the dam break?

It's hard to imagine that these players, as good as they are in the regular season, are simply destined to be underachievers in the playoffs.

Historically, that doesn't really jive, at least I can't think of any career underachievers who were trophy winners and/or elite in the regular season.

So management has to ask itself if it is time to part ways with these players and if so, who?

Tavares is the obvious choice, given his age/decline and cap hit, but he's the most unmoveable out of all of them, and one where we're surely going to take a bath, probably having to give up somebody like Knies and/or retain 50% salary or something, and that's only if he agrees, which is very very unlikely at this stage in his career.

Matthews to me (and probably everyone) is untouchable, because a true 1C likely future hall of famer is extremely difficult to draft or acquire.

Nylander just signed a new contract, performed well in the playoffs as per usual, despite a freakish injury, and if anyone has earned his new contract, it's him, having played on a bargain contract for years.

Marner, well, he's the obvious choice, isn't he? Coming up on a contract year, highly desirable player around the league, and is a non-critical player for this team, simply because both Nylander and Matthews have proven to be successful without him.

I still don't think they break up the core though, not this year. I just think that the stars have to align perfectly for any kind of Core 4 move to be pallatable to every party involved, Leafs, Leafs player(s), trade partner X, trade partner X's player(s), etc.

Jeremy Rutherford saying Tkachuk is in trade talks.

2nd time a big name has said this.
- Santo_44

Verbeek better be speed dialing those Ottawa fools and get this deal done.

#3 / Terry / LaCombe & Lundestrum

for

Brady and Chabust -

Sens add 6 mil cap space and 3 solid players and whoever they want at 3 -
Cayden or whatever D man hawks don't draft.

What amplifies the problem is that this team was built to be an overwhelming offensive juggernaut that could outscore it's deficiencies elsewhere, which gets flipped upside down in the playoffs, where we've been actually pretty solid defensively, but can't score.

Marner, Matthews, and Tavares have all failed to live up to their contracts in the playoffs. Nylander imo, gets a bye because of his (prior) contract being extremely reasonable and generally excellent value.

So you have to look at these players and think, can we run this back again with a new coach who hopefully can unlock this untapped potential? When will the dam break?

It's hard to imagine that these players, as good as they are in the regular season, are simply destined to be underachievers in the playoffs.

Historically, that doesn't really jive, at least I can't think of any career underachievers who were trophy winners and/or elite in the regular season.

So management has to ask itself if it is time to part ways with these players and if so, who?

Tavares is the obvious choice, given his age/decline and cap hit, but he's the most unmoveable out of all of them, and one where we're surely going to take a bath, probably having to give up somebody like Knies and/or retain 50% salary or something, and that's only if he agrees, which is very very unlikely at this stage in his career.

Matthews to me (and probably everyone) is untouchable, because a true 1C likely future hall of famer is extremely difficult to draft or acquire.

Nylander just signed a new contract, performed well in the playoffs as per usual, despite a freakish injury, and if anyone has earned his new contract, it's him, having played on a bargain contract for years.

Marner, well, he's the obvious choice, isn't he? Coming up on a contract year, highly desirable player around the league, and is a non-critical player for this team, simply because both Nylander and Matthews have proven to be successful without him.

I still don't think they break up the core though, not this year. I just think that the stars have to align perfectly for any kind of Core 4 move to be pallatable to every party involved, Leafs, Leafs player(s), trade partner X, trade partner X's player(s), etc.
- gravyface

If Tree trades Knies to induce another team to take JT, then he should be shot and then his corpse shot into the Sun. Agree on everything else.

Jeremy Rutherford saying Tkachuk is in trade talks.

2nd time a big name has said this.
- Santo_44

Why would Ottawa do that?

Wait…

I fell for the Kensington Market vibe last year while waiting for our daughter. We bought a bunch of hot sauces from a “market” retailer…like a dozen or so - all Ontario companies. For the most part, they are all meh and we’d never purchase them again. Oh yeah - then we ate at a Mexican restaurant down there. Worst service and food we have EVER had dining out. Can’t believe there were lineups to get in.
Where can I buy this Mojo so I can make these chicken strips?
- Woderwick

What Mexican restaurant?

What amplifies the problem is that this team was built to be an overwhelming offensive juggernaut that could outscore it's deficiencies elsewhere, which gets flipped upside down in the playoffs, where we've been actually pretty solid defensively, but can't score.

Marner, Matthews, and Tavares have all failed to live up to their contracts in the playoffs. Nylander imo, gets a bye because of his (prior) contract being extremely reasonable and generally excellent value.

So you have to look at these players and think, can we run this back again with a new coach who hopefully can unlock this untapped potential? When will the dam break?

It's hard to imagine that these players, as good as they are in the regular season, are simply destined to be underachievers in the playoffs.

Historically, that doesn't really jive, at least I can't think of any career underachievers who were trophy winners and/or elite in the regular season.

So management has to ask itself if it is time to part ways with these players and if so, who?

Tavares is the obvious choice, given his age/decline and cap hit, but he's the most unmoveable out of all of them, and one where we're surely going to take a bath, probably having to give up somebody like Knies and/or retain 50% salary or something, and that's only if he agrees, which is very very unlikely at this stage in his career.

Matthews to me (and probably everyone) is untouchable, because a true 1C likely future hall of famer is extremely difficult to draft or acquire.

Nylander just signed a new contract, performed well in the playoffs as per usual, despite a freakish injury, and if anyone has earned his new contract, it's him, having played on a bargain contract for years.

Marner, well, he's the obvious choice, isn't he? Coming up on a contract year, highly desirable player around the league, and is a non-critical player for this team, simply because both Nylander and Matthews have proven to be successful without him.

I still don't think they break up the core though, not this year. I just think that the stars have to align perfectly for any kind of Core 4 move to be pallatable to every party involved, Leafs, Leafs player(s), trade partner X, trade partner X's player(s), etc.
- gravyface

Yeah - Shanny can't do what needs to be done... at that point he admits failure and wasted years and it falls on him...

Everyone has known this set up was flawed... but now Shanny has run out of straw men... Berube will have no better luck than all the others, sadly.

Excellent reguar season.. crap shoot playoffs with band aid goalie tandem and patchwork D because no money for properly fixing either...

Eveyrone keeps harping on Domi and Bert... when the D should be the major focus...Riles and whoever else they can limp into the lineup.

TJ / Gio gonzo... lilly whatever... and the rest basically spare parts on a contender.

Why would Ottawa do that?
- dmnted

Well because they're the Sens...


Melnyk revenge tour from the grave... he's still reaching out and pulling the strings....

Wait…

I fell for the Kensington Market vibe last year while waiting for our daughter. We bought a bunch of hot sauces from a “market” retailer…like a dozen or so - all Ontario companies. For the most part, they are all meh and we’d never purchase them again. Oh yeah - then we ate at a Mexican restaurant down there. Worst service and food we have EVER had dining out. Can’t believe there were lineups to get in.
Where can I buy this Mojo so I can make these chicken strips?
- Woderwick

It's basically a dude at a farmer's market, but he has a website. Also repairs guitars.

Pretty good read on Domi on PPP.

I'm kind of torn with him. He was much better in the back half, but I feel like his last name buys him a lot of leash, particularly in Toronto. He's still not very good defensively, and he's a playmaking winger at best.
- gravyface

Im perfectly fine to move off of bert and domi.

Maybe a short cheap deal for domi, but bert can take a hike.

Well because they're the Sens...


Melnyk revenge tour from the grave... he's still reaching out and pulling the strings....
- dozerD10

he must be with Ballard ....

What amplifies the problem is that this team was built to be an overwhelming offensive juggernaut that could outscore it's deficiencies elsewhere, which gets flipped upside down in the playoffs, where we've been actually pretty solid defensively, but can't score.

Marner, Matthews, and Tavares have all failed to live up to their contracts in the playoffs. Nylander imo, gets a bye because of his (prior) contract being extremely reasonable and generally excellent value.

So you have to look at these players and think, can we run this back again with a new coach who hopefully can unlock this untapped potential? When will the dam break?

It's hard to imagine that these players, as good as they are in the regular season, are simply destined to be underachievers in the playoffs.

Historically, that doesn't really jive, at least I can't think of any career underachievers who were trophy winners and/or elite in the regular season.

So management has to ask itself if it is time to part ways with these players and if so, who?

Tavares is the obvious choice, given his age/decline and cap hit, but he's the most unmoveable out of all of them, and one where we're surely going to take a bath, probably having to give up somebody like Knies and/or retain 50% salary or something, and that's only if he agrees, which is very very unlikely at this stage in his career.

Matthews to me (and probably everyone) is untouchable, because a true 1C likely future hall of famer is extremely difficult to draft or acquire.

Nylander just signed a new contract, performed well in the playoffs as per usual, despite a freakish injury, and if anyone has earned his new contract, it's him, having played on a bargain contract for years.

Marner, well, he's the obvious choice, isn't he? Coming up on a contract year, highly desirable player around the league, and is a non-critical player for this team, simply because both Nylander and Matthews have proven to be successful without him.

I still don't think they break up the core though, not this year. I just think that the stars have to align perfectly for any kind of Core 4 move to be pallatable to every party involved, Leafs, Leafs player(s), trade partner X, trade partner X's player(s), etc.
- gravyface

We are stuck with jt for the year. Such is life.
But im fine with trading matthews and marner.
Build from the back end out, like they should have done years ago.
Willie will be overpaid for most of the next 7 years but hes decent in the playoffs.

wut?
- senstroll

Said it on espn on the radio

Why would Ottawa do that?
- dmnted

Why would Calgary trade Tkachuk?

maybe he wants out but doesn’t want to make it public because he’s the captain and there’s no gaurentee Ottawa would trade him?

His brother demanded a trade. It’s not crazy to think BT is doing the same, Ottawa is garbage.

What amplifies the problem is that this team was built to be an overwhelming offensive juggernaut that could outscore it's deficiencies elsewhere, which gets flipped upside down in the playoffs, where we've been actually pretty solid defensively, but can't score.

Marner, Matthews, and Tavares have all failed to live up to their contracts in the playoffs. Nylander imo, gets a bye because of his (prior) contract being extremely reasonable and generally excellent value.

So you have to look at these players and think, can we run this back again with a new coach who hopefully can unlock this untapped potential? When will the dam break?

It's hard to imagine that these players, as good as they are in the regular season, are simply destined to be underachievers in the playoffs.

Historically, that doesn't really jive, at least I can't think of any career underachievers who were trophy winners and/or elite in the regular season.

So management has to ask itself if it is time to part ways with these players and if so, who?

Tavares is the obvious choice, given his age/decline and cap hit, but he's the most unmoveable out of all of them, and one where we're surely going to take a bath, probably having to give up somebody like Knies and/or retain 50% salary or something, and that's only if he agrees, which is very very unlikely at this stage in his career.

Matthews to me (and probably everyone) is untouchable, because a true 1C likely future hall of famer is extremely difficult to draft or acquire.

Nylander just signed a new contract, performed well in the playoffs as per usual, despite a freakish injury, and if anyone has earned his new contract, it's him, having played on a bargain contract for years.

Marner, well, he's the obvious choice, isn't he? Coming up on a contract year, highly desirable player around the league, and is a non-critical player for this team, simply because both Nylander and Matthews have proven to be successful without him.

I still don't think they break up the core though, not this year. I just think that the stars have to align perfectly for any kind of Core 4 move to be pallatable to every party involved, Leafs, Leafs player(s), trade partner X, trade partner X's player(s), etc.
- gravyface

paying anything to move Tavares would be dumb. just wait it out if he cant be moved.

Marner for B Tkachuk would be hilarious.

Would be the best rivalry trade of all time.

Marner for B Tkachuk would be hilarious.

Would be the best rivalry trade of all time.
- Santo_44

Marner and Rielly (so MM has a friend) for Brady and Chickrun