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drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 26 @ 3:06 PM ET
man I despise Ron Maclean
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

May 26 @ 3:42 PM ET
I really don’t think the Leafs will move Marner. 🤷🏼‍♂️
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 26 @ 3:47 PM ET
I really don’t think the Leafs will move Marner. 🤷🏼‍♂️
- .HOHO.

I hope not unless its for a kings ransom of picks and prospects. MM on a contract year could be incredible. If we walks so be it. Frees up lots of room and you sign two players, ie. same as a trade
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

May 26 @ 3:54 PM ET
I hope not unless its for a kings ransom of picks and prospects. MM on a contract year could be incredible. If we walks so be it. Frees up lots of room and you sign two players, ie. same as a trade
- drexel


You do everything you can to either sign him or trade him.
Letting him walk if you don’t have to, would be idiotic.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
I hope not unless its for a kings ransom of picks and prospects. MM on a contract year could be incredible. If we walks so be it. Frees up lots of room and you sign two players, ie. same as a trade
- drexel


Pretty much this
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

May 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
I hope not unless its for a kings ransom of picks and prospects. MM on a contract year could be incredible. If we walks so be it. Frees up lots of room and you sign two players, ie. same as a trade
- drexel


Marner having a massive regular season, doing nothing in the playoffs and walking away with zero return does absolutely nothing for the team.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

May 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
Marner having a massive regular season, doing nothing in the playoffs and walking away with zero return does absolutely nothing for the team.
- joel878

shhhhhhhh😬

you’ll waken the aardvark 🤦🏿‍♂️

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
shhhhhhhh😬

you’ll waken the aardvark 🤦🏿‍♂️

- Skalapy

I’m not so sure about Cancel Culture anymore, but Cancel AA is trending.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 26 @ 4:52 PM ET
Just have to put up the sails on the pergola and we’re done MutherBozakers!
Three weeks of weekends and evenings and I am having my first relaxing WA in this glorious weather.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
man I despise Ron Maclean
- drexel

He likes you.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 26 @ 4:55 PM ET
Marner having a massive regular season, doing nothing in the playoffs and walking away with zero return does absolutely nothing for the team.
- joel878

I thought the playoff failures were Keefes fault
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 26 @ 4:55 PM ET
He likes you.
- Woderwick

Well he is human. I think.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 26 @ 5:02 PM ET
Gosh darn…. does Trouba get away with more unbelievable & obvious intent to injure than anybody Ive seen…

what a brutal elbow…
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 26 @ 5:05 PM ET
I hope not unless its for a kings ransom of picks and prospects. MM on a contract year could be incredible. If we walks so be it. Frees up lots of room and you sign two players, ie. same as a trade
- drexel

I 100% agree. I’d be sad to see him traded unless it was a deal that gave me a blue boner. I think his injury affected his play a significant amount during the playoffs.
Not very many players as creative and talented as he is. If he signed for close to Nylander money I’d be very happy, then let Captain JT’s new contract open up the cap space.
In short…
Keep the Core
For One More
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
Well he is human. I think.
- drexel

LOL

He tries too hard.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
I hope not unless its for a kings ransom of picks and prospects. MM on a contract year could be incredible. If we walks so be it. Frees up lots of room and you sign two players, ie. same as a trade
- drexel


Why picks and prospects? They don't really help the current window unless you move them out too or the prospects are ready to make the jump/impact. Which is a bit of a gamble with prospects.

I'm all for thinking ahead but at the same time, we have Matthews NOW. If we want to re-tool and restart, might as well move him too.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 26 @ 5:11 PM ET
I 100% agree. I’d be sad to see him traded unless it was a deal that gave me a blue boner. I think his injury affected his play a significant amount during the playoffs.
Not very many players as creative and talented as he is. If he signed for close to Nylander money I’d be very happy, then let Captain JT’s new contract open up the cap space.
In short…
Keep the Core
For One More

- Woderwick


"Keep the core for one more!"
I like it. My new mantra around here.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 26 @ 5:15 PM ET
Why picks and prospects? They don't really help the current window unless you move them out too or the prospects are ready to make the jump/impact. Which is a bit of a gamble with prospects.

I'm all for thinking ahead but at the same time, we have Matthews NOW. If we want to re-tool and restart, might as well move him too.

- Aaron_85

Picks and prospects cause they have 1 prospect. The 11M in cap space provides the players to help now. Win win
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 26 @ 5:32 PM ET
I 100% agree. I’d be sad to see him traded unless it was a deal that gave me a blue boner. I think his injury affected his play a significant amount during the playoffs.
Not very many players as creative and talented as he is. If he signed for close to Nylander money I’d be very happy, then let Captain JT’s new contract open up the cap space.
In short…
Keep the Core
For One More

- Woderwick


The problem is he's overpaid now for a talented scoring winger that happens to be a really soft player. He will be on an even worse deal when Ferris and his dad negotiate a deal that pays him more than Matthews. Sign a one year team friendly deal and grow a pair of balls and he can stay.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
Picks and prospects cause they have 1 prospect. The 11M in cap space provides the players to help now. Win win
- drexel


Helps the players now how? If you have prospects you'd need to play them, taking up said cap space.

Not against it but what are you filling in the hole with 11 million in cap space? Don't say "top 4 d". Which one in free agency? Simply being vague in "it'll help them win NOW because they will get a top 4 d and another winger". Which ones?

They have 4 prospects getting close to make the jump and four just made the jump this past year to full time. Holmberg, Robertson, McMann and Knies. The leafs pipeline is relatively steady at this time.
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

May 26 @ 5:46 PM ET
Why picks and prospects? They don't really help the current window unless you move them out too or the prospects are ready to make the jump/impact. Which is a bit of a gamble with prospects.

I'm all for thinking ahead but at the same time, we have Matthews NOW. If we want to re-tool and restart, might as well move him too.

- Aaron_85


A)We need 'em
B)They're worth...stuff
C)They cost nothing toward the cap

Marner is a hard sell to most teams, but the holy grail to a few. With the right picks/prospects/useful Plugs coming back, you can make more specific targeted trades for what you need. The S11M gives you the flexibility to do whatever the (frank) you want, in what might be a buyers market for free agent D-men.
If we go into next season with Riley as our 3rd best defence-man, and with a bunch of nearly ready prospects chomping at the bit, I doubt Marner will be missed as much as some think.
People are too worried about losing the trade and maybe getting chirped by other fan bases, rather than looking at the potential team after the dust settles.
You can lose the trade, and still have a better chance at winning the cup.


fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 26 @ 5:57 PM ET
Why picks and prospects? They don't really help the current window unless you move them out too or the prospects are ready to make the jump/impact. Which is a bit of a gamble with prospects.

I'm all for thinking ahead but at the same time, we have Matthews NOW. If we want to re-tool and restart, might as well move him too.

- Aaron_85

You can trade picks for sure, and some prospects. Would be good to actually have some assets to acquire the type of players in trade we need to balance this roster.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 26 @ 5:59 PM ET
No need for your over the top criticism of trade proposals. If Marner were on a different team he would be on a contract that paid much less than $10M heading into another contract that paid less than $10M per season. His cap hit is bigger than any of Kucherov, Draisaitl, Makar, Kaprisov, Barkov, Tkachuk and Rantanen to name a few. Think about his next contract for a minute. If he gets a raise which is likely, that bad deal becomes even worse long term.
- winsix

Its not overtop.
But i agree, i dont want to pay him 12m or more.
Willie's bad deal begins next year as well.
11.5m per or you let the marner walk..or sign and trade at draft.
Right now, he has a full year left, not giving him away.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 26 @ 6:00 PM ET
I really don’t think the Leafs will move Marner. 🤷🏼‍♂️
- .HOHO.

I doubt it as well.
They roll it back with the new coach
But we'll see.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 26 @ 6:01 PM ET
I thought so too at first, but when you add in the 6M in cap space, it looks nicer.
It could be a Pesce! or a boat!

- oldstyle

I agree, the extra cap space would be nice.
But ya still gotta get a great hull for marner
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