Ok, listen up folks. Here is what is gonna happen. Book it. E15.
JT is staying for this coming season. He is not waiving to get traded. Forget any crazy ideas about running him out of town. Other teams don't covet him. They might want him if the chance arose, but they aren't giving up quality assets for him at this time. They can wait until he's a UFA, if the Leafs don't resign him and let him retire a Leaf. He'll be a Leafs assistant coach before he wears another team's jersey. Book it. So just stop the wishful thinking and bickering about the finer details of a trade scenario that will never happen.
Marner isn't getting traded to the Utah Flyover Soakers, the Chicago Groomers, Nashville Inbreds, or whatever team has the imaginary cap space and desire to sign a historically soft elite winger who will command north of $12m per year. I honestly don't know or have a feeling about what will happen with Marner, but I don't see him waiving to go to any of the teams mentioned.
Rielly is staying, You don't improve your defense by getting rid of your best defender. You put the right support around that defender, not trade him. You may not love him, but he's the Leafs best d-man and it's not even close. If you get rid of him, you need to get two more players equal or better to make it worth while.
Let's just hope Tree doesn't throw too much cap and term at Bert. - GalacticStone
Marner will be dealt.
From the team perspective, the writing is on the wall. Everyone and their dog knows its time to structure the team a bit differently, they've committed to Nylander and Matthews and won't force their captain, who clearly wants nothing other than to be in T.O., to waive. Change runs through Marner.
From Marners perspective, it's time to go somewhere quieter and ensure he can butt (frank) another team for every penny possible.
The writing is on the wall for both parties.
When his bonus is paid July 1st, he becomes much more marketable. Marner working with the team is in both their interests, there will be a number of teams happy to pay a significant price to land Marner at 775k real money for a year, and the entire year to extend him long term.
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May 26 @ 9:18 PM ET
Marner will be dealt.
From the team perspective, the writing is on the wall. Everyone and their dog knows its time to structure the team a bit differently, they've committed to Nylander and Matthews and won't force their captain to who clearly wants nothing other than to be in T.O. to waive. Change runs through Marner.
From Marners perspective, it's time to go somewhere quieter and ensure he can butt (frank) another team for every penny possible.
The writing is on the wall for both parties.
When his bonus is paid July 1st, he becomes much more marketable. Marner working with the team is in both their interests, there will be a number of teams happy to pay a significant price to land Marner at 775k real money for a year, and the entire year to extend him long term. - joel878
Just for a bit more normalcy in here I bloody hope so - if for nothing else eh
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May 26 @ 9:26 PM ET
Marner will be dealt.
From the team perspective, the writing is on the wall. Everyone and their dog knows its time to structure the team a bit differently, they've committed to Nylander and Matthews and won't force their captain, who clearly wants nothing other than to be in T.O., to waive. Change runs through Marner.
From Marners perspective, it's time to go somewhere quieter and ensure he can butt (frank) another team for every penny possible.
The writing is on the wall for both parties.
When his bonus is paid July 1st, he becomes much more marketable. Marner working with the team is in both their interests, there will be a number of teams happy to pay a significant price to land Marner at 775k real money for a year, and the entire year to extend him long term. - joel878
All of that is reasonable. It's too bad we have this rigid cap system in the NHL. If there was a luxury tax or something similar, we wouldn't see the kind of roster decay top-tier teams suffer from the NHL. The Lightning would still be steamrolling and the Leafs could keep their overpaid elite core and still afford a good goalie and help for Rielly.
If Marner gets traded, it's a business trade and not a hockey trade. I'm a terrible businessman, but I love hockey. That puts me in a bad position to predict a possible Marner swap, but I'll try anyway...
You can assume he wants a contender if he waives - somebody as good as the Leafs or better. It won't be within the division. It probably won't be in the conference either. Chicago is a long way from being a contender. Nashville is iffy. Utah is nowhere close to being a contender. Ditto for Seattle. The list keeps getting shorter and shorter.
All of that is reasonable. It's too bad we have this rigid cap system in the NHL. If there was a luxury tax or something similar, we wouldn't see the kind of roster decay top-tier teams suffer from the NHL. The Lightning would still be steamrolling and the Leafs could keep their overpaid elite core and still afford a good goalie and help for Rielly.
If Marner gets traded, it's a business trade and not a hockey trade. I'm a terrible businessman, but I love hockey. That puts me in a bad position to predict a possible Marner swap, but I'll try anyway...
You can assume he wants a contender if he waives - somebody as good as the Leafs or better. It won't be within the division. It probably won't be in the conference either. Chicago is a long way from being a contender. Nashville is iffy. Utah is nowhere close to being a contender. Ditto for Seattle. The list keeps getting shorter and shorter. - GalacticStone
He won't be traded because he can walk into UFA status and get multiple offers, play the Matthews route by taking 4/5 years and hitting the UFA market again later.
And the Leafs can't afford to let him walk for nothing either.
He'll stay for the 8 year deal at 11.75-12 AAV.
It's not the ideal price but Matthews and Nylander aren't at ideal prices either. It's manageable once the Tavares mistake has been dealt with either by convincing him to accept a trade or letting him walk next season.
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May 26 @ 9:35 PM ET
He won't be traded because he can walk into UFA status and get multiple offers, play the Matthews route by taking 4/5 years and hitting the UFA market again later.
And the Leafs can't afford to let him walk for nothing either.
He'll stay for the 8 year deal at 11.75-12 AAV.
It's not the ideal price but Matthews and Nylander aren't at ideal prices either. It's manageable once the Tavares mistake has been dealt with either by convincing him to accept a trade or letting him walk next season. - Rare_Jewel
Nope he is just over rated defensively, needs to get his old work ethic back and not try to bend the Leafs over again on his next contract. Otherwise bye bye even if just for the cap space.
Also no matter how hard you try to claim otherwise. JT is going nowhere unless he wants to. - jribout
All of that is reasonable. It's too bad we have this rigid cap system in the NHL. If there was a luxury tax or something similar, we wouldn't see the kind of roster decay top-tier teams suffer from the NHL. The Lightning would still be steamrolling and the Leafs could keep their overpaid elite core and still afford a good goalie and help for Rielly.
If Marner gets traded, it's a business trade and not a hockey trade. I'm a terrible businessman, but I love hockey. That puts me in a bad position to predict a possible Marner swap, but I'll try anyway...
You can assume he wants a contender if he waives - somebody as good as the Leafs or better. It won't be within the division. It probably won't be in the conference either. Chicago is a long way from being a contender. Nashville is iffy. Utah is nowhere close to being a contender. Ditto for Seattle. The list keeps getting shorter and shorter. - GalacticStone
I personally think Marners desire to play for a contender is going to be a far lower priority than being somewhere which is quieter and will pay him fat stacks long term.
From the team perspective, the writing is on the wall. Everyone and their dog knows its time to structure the team a bit differently, they've committed to Nylander and Matthews and won't force their captain, who clearly wants nothing other than to be in T.O., to waive. Change runs through Marner.
From Marners perspective, it's time to go somewhere quieter and ensure he can butt (frank) another team for every penny possible.
The writing is on the wall for both parties.
When his bonus is paid July 1st, he becomes much more marketable. Marner working with the team is in both their interests, there will be a number of teams happy to pay a significant price to land Marner at 775k real money for a year, and the entire year to extend him long term. - joel878
Agree. For whatever reason, legit or not, there is a large fanbase that is not a fan of Marner. The management group can’t let that fester towards a player, and Marner needs to leave on good terms so that he’s not heavily boo’d when playing here or hastled when he comes home. It’s just best for everyone for an amiable split.
All of that is reasonable. It's too bad we have this rigid cap system in the NHL. If there was a luxury tax or something similar, we wouldn't see the kind of roster decay top-tier teams suffer from the NHL. The Lightning would still be steamrolling and the Leafs could keep their overpaid elite core and still afford a good goalie and help for Rielly.
If Marner gets traded, it's a business trade and not a hockey trade. I'm a terrible businessman, but I love hockey. That puts me in a bad position to predict a possible Marner swap, but I'll try anyway...
You can assume he wants a contender if he waives - somebody as good as the Leafs or better. It won't be within the division. It probably won't be in the conference either. Chicago is a long way from being a contender. Nashville is iffy. Utah is nowhere close to being a contender. Ditto for Seattle. The list keeps getting shorter and shorter. - GalacticStone
Nashville did just as well as the Leafs in the playoffs! And if you ask me, what’s important to Marner is Money! Period.
