Does that mean we win the cup in 10 years?!?

- Scabeh

Octocup for sure.

Get woke, go broke.
- Rare_Jewel

Only you man, only you

Dumba is tiny and he's garbage defensively. I'd rather have the Cup winner with size who can kill penalties. The experience factor is huge, he's a RHD and can be trusted a lot more than Liljegren at this point.

With Tampa Bay, he looked fantastic. With San Jose he looked horrible. On Pittsburgh he looked average. And that's all they need for a 3rd pair PKer.
- Rare_Jewel

I've watched a lot of Rutta. A lot.

If I had a choice between Dumba and Rutta for the same money and term, it would be a coin flip. Those two cups are in the past.

PS - Rutta doesn't use his size. He's not a physical d-man.

I've watched a lot of Rutta. A lot.

If I had a choice between Dumba and Rutta for the same money and term, it would be a coin flip. Those two cups are in the past.

PS - Rutta doesn't use his size. He's not a physical d-man.
- GalacticStone

And again, I'll still take Rutta for the reach and the experience. Benoit can lay the hits on that pairing. They need somebody reliable, low risk who can kill penalties.

Dumba is a pylon. Always has been, always will be.

[quote=Rare_Jewel]If it is essentially a run it back year, you have to maximize what Berube can do for the team and that means adding a lot more tough, gritty, defensive minded forwards and defenders. Berube is actually a career loser in the NHL as a head coach. His winning % sucks and half his seasons ended in missing the playoffs or 1st round exits.

Tavares (40) | Matthews (55) | Marner (35) - 130 goals
Joshua (15) / Domi (15) / Nylander (35) - 65 goals
Knies (20) | Blueger (10) | Clutterbuck (10) - 40 goals
McMann (15) | Lafferty (10) | Perry (10) - 35 goals

Dewar / Gregor (all extra forwards combined) - 10 goals

Sign Pesce, OEL and DeMelo. Probably costs in the range of 16 AAV combined.

Rielly (10) | Pesce (5) - 15 goals
OEL (12) | DeMelo (3) - 15 goals
Benoit (3) | Rutta (4) - 7 goals





Yikes. So the strategy is to bring in Perry/Carrick (whom you replaced this time with Blueger) who were both scratches in playoffs? Bring back Lafferty (also a scratch these playoffs) who proved it was the right decision to not have him on the roster. A broken Clutterbuck? On defence OEL and Rutta?

Jesus - thank god for Leafs fans this is a fantasy site where nobody ever comes close to getting off-season moves correct.

UFA RHD (from CapFriendly)

Tanev
Pesce
Zadorov
Montour
Edmundson
Roy
Myers
Hakanpaa
DeMelo
Carrier
Lyubushkin

Bad options:

Barrie
Dumba
Zaitsev
Miller
J Brown
E Johnson
Shatty
Klingon
DeAngelo

If it is essentially a run it back year, you have to maximize what Berube can do for the team and that means adding a lot more tough, gritty, defensive minded forwards and defenders. Berube is actually a career loser in the NHL as a head coach. His winning % sucks and half his seasons ended in missing the playoffs or 1st round exits.

He won a Cup under very specific circumstances that included having Pietrangelo, Parayko, Dunn and Bouwmeester as his top-4 (who he played A LOT) and Binnington who was on fire in net. If you want Berube to succeed, you have to do your best to give him what he had when he had his most success.

If they keep Tavares, he has to move to LW to earn that cap hit. Stamkos moved to LW and scored 40. The Leafs need the same from Tavares. And he can still take FOs occasionally because he's good at it. So he basically becomes a situational LW/C.

Don't think the Leafs can afford to get him a goalie in year 1 but might be able to after Tavares' contract expires. In the mean time, they have 18 AAV in cap space. If they trade Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves and McCabe, they'll have about 26 AAV in cap space.

Trade Liljegren and Robertson to SJS for Rutta. Another experienced, Cup winning RHD. He can play in the top-four in case of injury and has a low cap hit for 1 year.

You re-sign Domi, sign Joshua, Blueger, Clutterbuck, Lafferty and Perry. Use most of them as experienced, physical, shutdown, PKers and give Berube an arsenal of defensive weapons. The offensive guys we have will be better insulated and can focus on just doing what they need to do best; score goals.

Tavares (40) | Matthews (55) | Marner (35) - 130 goals
Joshua (15) / Domi (15) / Nylander (35) - 65 goals
Knies (20) | Blueger (10) | Clutterbuck (10) - 40 goals
McMann (15) | Lafferty (10) | Perry (10) - 35 goals

Dewar / Gregor (all extra forwards combined) - 10 goals

Sign Pesce, OEL and DeMelo. Probably costs in the range of 16 AAV combined.

Rielly (10) | Pesce (5) - 15 goals
OEL (12) | DeMelo (3) - 15 goals
Benoit (3) | Rutta (4) - 7 goals

Leafs were 2nd in GF last year with 298. That team could score as high as 330 if everything goes perfect. But even if it didn't, they could still score at a top 5 pace based on sheer star talent.

The difference is, with a line-up like that, you have a more effective defense, a more effective PK and a more effective PP (by adding OEL more than anything).

Leafs were 21st in GA. 23rd on the PK. If you can put together a roster that can still score 290-300 goals but is more coachable for Berube defensively, the Leafs become a much harder team to play against, especially in the playoffs.

In net, you can't rely on Woll so you have to get a cheap 1A. I'd try to acquire Thompson from Vegas but if not him, Talbot, Brossoit, Stolarz etc. You go after a goalie next year when you have a better idea of what you have in Woll and more cap space after Tavares' contract is over.
- Rare_Jewel

I appreciate the essay but thank whoever you believe in that you are not in charge of the Leafs

UFA RHD (from CapFriendly)

Tanev
Pesce
Zadorov
Montour
Edmundson
Roy
Myers
Hakanpaa
DeMelo
Carrier
Lyubushkin

Bad options:

Barrie
Dumba
Zaitsev
Miller
J Brown
E Johnson
Shatty
Klingon
DeAngelo
- mr.sir

Some of those RHD you listed aren't actually RHD. And half of them should be in the bad pile. A few would be good but would cost too much like Montour. I think he has Bryan McCabe written all over him.

Jesus - thank god for Leafs fans this is a fantasy site where nobody ever comes close to getting off-season moves correct.
- Big23Questions

I appreciate the essay but thank whoever you believe in that you are not in charge of the Leafs
- Azuredoom

Multiple accounts, same drivel.

Multiple accounts, same drivel.
- Rare_Jewel

Oh I'm not you there shoots. I don't need multiple accounts on an internet site to fill my days.

On taht note though - I am willing to make a bet. I'm feeling Evander Kane-ish today. If Dozzer can verify that I do not have an alt - are you willing to delete this (I believe folks said this is your 3rd? account)?


put up or shut kinda of thing?

or did you just mean multiple people are laughing at your horrific Leafs moves?

Oh I'm not you there shoots. I don't need multiple accounts on an internet site to fill my days.

On taht note though - I am willing to make a bet. I'm feeling Evander Kane-ish today. If Dozzer can verify that I do not have an alt - are you willing to delete this (I believe folks said this is your 3rd? account)?


put up or shut kinda of thing?

or did you just mean multiple people are laughing at your horrific Leafs moves?
- Big23Questions

new blog everyone

- Rare_Jewel

The first gif wasn't the one you wanted eh? Are you certain of this one kiddo?

So, was it the spelling mistake - cause I'm pretty sure the rest makes sense.

- made an Evander Kane gambling reference
- you accused me of having multiple accounts OR just meant that multiple posters think you moves are dumb...and said if it was the alt thing - i bet you I don't.

I'm not sure you are making the point you think you are here man

The first gif wasn't the one you wanted eh? Are you certain of this one kiddo?

So, was it the spelling mistake - cause I'm pretty sure the rest makes sense.

- made an Evander Kane gambling reference
- you accused me of having multiple accounts OR just meant that multiple posters think you moves are dumb...and said if it was the alt thing - i bet you I don't.

I'm not sure you are making the point you think you are here man
- Big23Questions

You stay classy Nicky.

You stay classy Nicky.
- Rare_Jewel

Well I guess you won’t bet then and have resorted to this type of response. You’re done eh? Works for me.

Until the very next time you post the same roster destruction you are suggesting then….