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I’m sorry. What???

He’s done in the NHL either way. You don’t come back from that.
- hereticpride

what are you sorry for?

when he is cleared why can't he come back to the nhl? I see no reason why to black ball him.

Hextall’s approach was a half measure. He basically didn’t do anything. Either rebuild, which means you trade away veteran players to acquire picks and prospects, or you have to go all in the way Vegas has done it.
- Schmojo

oh boy look out as its coming.

Konecny and his agent both know he is not a 10M a year player. It's just posturing and a starting point for negotiation. The deal will likely be an 8 year deal in the 8M a year range.
- MJL

agreed, I do think the cap is a factor, it should mitigate the cap hit a little, if the Cap is going up year over over. That said a rebuild does not need this contract, unless another contract was moved and that is not possible, AKA Coots.

Can they still front load contracts and make the real money less on the later part of the contract?

Well said and this is where I am at. I am more on the side of this team not truly rebuilding and they are trying to thread the needle on another rebuild on the fly. Walker was a slam dunk to trade so I don't think the trade was any master stroke by GMDB.

At this point I just don't see where TK fits in the long term plans. Giving out a huge contract is not what this team needs right now. I love TK but the term and money is just too much. Gain assets.
- Flyfly

but getting Walker as a throw in and turning it into a first is good work.

While most in here may like or love Travis Konency but to me he’s a frustrating player. During the first half of the last two seasons, he’s been one of the top goal scorers in the league. He looks so good that he may flirt with 40 goals. Suddenly January hits and he finally slows down and February/March hits and he gets injured (I don’t have exact dates). The Flyers have to sell while the iron is hot. Should Konency reach another 60 plus season, what does this do for the team? Absolutely nothing unless you’re trading him.

FROM THE A, when Ego boy benched Brink, the only game in his hometown/

“It’s a coach’s decision, and I’m the player,” Brink said. “Obviously, it’s disappointing …”

“… But you’re a great guy, Bob,” interjected Travis Konecny, seated immediately to Brink’s right. “You’re a f——ing great human.”

“I’m here to support the team,” a distracted Brink continued.

“And that’s it!” Konecny declared. “That’s it, Bob.”

Point taken. Interview over.

Konecny was named an alternate captain on Feb. 14. At the top of the list of reasons why is because he is the Flyers’ best player, and was named as such at the conclusion of the 2023-24 season when the local media selected him as the winner of the Bobby Clarke Trophy. In 76 games, Konecny posted 33 goals and 68 points, both team highs. His 64 goals over the last two seasons is 44th in the league, while his goals per 60 minutes at even strength over that span is 1.15, tied for 23rd in the league. He embraced a new role on the penalty kill this season as well, keying the NHL’s fourth-ranked unit and posting a league-high six short-handed goals while disrupting opposing power plays all over the ice.

but getting Walker as a throw in and turning it into a first is good work.
- wcorvette

absolutely. IMO it was on the player to prove it and he did. Great for him but not a hard trade to make when the player elevates his game the entire year.

I’m sorry. What???

He’s done in the NHL either way. You don’t come back from that.
- hereticpride

If he is proven innocent, if he can play at a high enough level, the NHL would take him back.

Hextall’s approach was a half measure. He basically didn’t do anything. Either rebuild, which means you trade away veteran players to acquire picks and prospects, or you have to go all in the way Vegas has done it.
- Schmojo

I disagree that he didn't do anything. He cleared up the cap and rebuilt the prospect base. Why is the example of Vegas always brought up? They used the expansion draft and took advantage of teams that didn't handle that well as a big part of building their team. It is not a repeatable scenario.

agreed, I do think the cap is a factor, it should mitigate the cap hit a little, if the Cap is going up year over over. That said a rebuild does not need this contract, unless another contract was moved and that is not possible, AKA Coots.

Can they still front load contracts and make the real money less on the later part of the contract?
- wcorvette

They can but not to the extent that has been done in the past.

They can but not to the extent that has been done in the past.
- MJL

knew it changed but not how much, do you know? if not, Bill do you know?

rest from the A, seems Kurz is a fan of a resign.


The counterargument to extending Konecny is that he may already be past his prime by the time the Flyers hope to be true contenders, and dealing him for assets now, when his value is at its highest, is the preferable option.

But that’s narrow-minded, considering the steps the Flyers took this season as a group and how they’ve prioritized a strong culture while trying to win.

And Konecny would still be just 28 years old when his new deal kicked in, in 2025-26. As a player who’s avoided any major injuries throughout his career, he should still be in a position to be productive that season and in several more. In the NHL this past season, 36 players aged 29 or older posted at least 60 points — and 34 had at least 25 goals, too. These guys aren’t easy to find.

Yes, the Flyers will have to sign some of their own to long-term extensions, too. Cam York and Tyson Foerster, in particular, could be in line for significant raises at some point in the near future. Maybe Morgan Frost, too. But as it stands right now, the Flyers have just three NHL-level forwards signed past 2025-26: Couturier, Owen Tippett and Joel Farabee. While Couturier’s contract, $7.75 million annually through 2029-30, is concerning after his poor second half, Farabee is a good candidate to get moved in the offseason. There should be plenty of room for a healthy Konecny extension, particularly as the salary cap rises again.

If Konecny were to be moved now, it would leave another hole up front that the Flyers would probably have to try to plug later on. Other than maybe Matvei Michkov, no other forward in the Flyers system at the moment is a surefire NHL player. If the Flyers plan on being competitive in 2026-27, which would be the second year of a Konecny extension, veteran players will still be necessary. The four teams still alive in the 2024 Stanley Cup playoffs reflect that, as this note from CapFriendly illustrates:


General manager Daniel Briere has plenty of work to do to make the Flyers a contender again. Finding true difference-makers will be his biggest challenge. There’s always the possibility Konecny could bring back a young asset who could help in the long run, even if it’s unlikely the return would be an elite-level prospect or top-10 draft pick.

But Briere has plenty of other ways to do that without moving Konecny, including eight picks in the first two rounds in each of the next two drafts. And he’s made no secret about executing a potential hockey trade in the future, perhaps for a high-end player with another club who’s looking for a change in scenery and wants to be part of what seems to be an improving team in one of the best hockey markets in the countr

when carter hart is eventually cleared does he have a path back to the flyers?
- hello it's me 2050

No. Even if he’s found not guilty for some reason no nhl team will employ him. It’s a pr disaster. It’ll be khl or nothing. Just the accusation is enough unfortunately.

So in 4 years when one of those defensemen have developed into a true #1 Dman and the Flyers are still languishing as a borderline playoff team, you’ll be fine with TK’s $9m contract still having 5 more years and the winger they get at 12 is no better than a 2nd line player?
- Schmojo

My point is that that you’re not getting proper value for him. Tk and the 12th for the 5th in a weak draft? Would you be ok when that dman turns into a career ahl er and we have literally nothing to show for tk. On top of it you’re sending the 12th. Crazy. As mentioned, if you want to get rid of him for nothing because you want the cap space and jettison players to see if you can bottom out in the standings, just put him on waivers.


He’s worth more than that.

If he is proven innocent, if he can play at a high enough level, the NHL would take him back.
- MJL

It won’t happen. No owner wants to deal with that. Innocent of a crime or not he orchestrated the thing and it’s not worth the hassle for a pedestrian goalie.

Regardless of that try to have some moral standards.

It’s a mixed bag of messaging from what I see. Not what they say…because that’s all rebuild….but the signings, holding on to guys like Laughton, Seeler. Yes they moved Walker.
That’s why I remain on the fence…because it looks more incoherent then I had hoped a rebuild would look…
- landros 2

I think Seeler was a good signing. In any rebuild you need some good veteran players to help guide the younger players and teach them how to be pros. Seeler signed a 4 year deal for relatively cheap money, but really only the first two years are locked in with the Flyers. After that they could trade him if they want to and I am sure by then they will no longer need Seeler. with Laughton I agree the Flyers should move him. I think they are open to moving him but are maybe not happy yet with what has been offered them. But the messaging has been clear throughout, this is not a tear it down to the studs rebuild, this is really more of a re-tool.

absolutely. IMO it was on the player to prove it and he did. Great for him but not a hard trade to make when the player elevates his game the entire year.
- Flyfly

If we’re going to criticize db for non moves we should give him kudos for when he’s done a good job. Walker is an example of a good job. He weaponized the cap space to eventually get a first pick out of it and he didn’t hold on to him to make the playoffs. That decision basically ended the season and that’s fine but good on him

No. Even if he’s found not guilty for some reason no nhl team will employ him. It’s a pr disaster. It’ll be khl or nothing. Just the accusation is enough unfortunately.
- Hextall271

we shall see as I think he and the others will be back

But that’s narrow-minded, considering the steps the Flyers took this season as a group and how they’ve prioritized a strong culture while trying to win.


- wcorvette

I'm always amazed when people are brainwashed by that nonsense.

It won’t happen. No owner wants to deal with that. Innocent of a crime or not he orchestrated the thing and it’s not worth the hassle for a pedestrian goalie.

Regardless of that try to have some moral standards.
- hereticpride

He orchestrated it? Where'd you get this? I still don't even know what "the thing" is.

I think Seeler was a good signing. In any rebuild you need some good veteran players to help guide the younger players and teach them how to be pros. Seeler signed a 4 year deal for relatively cheap money, but really only the first two years are locked in with the Flyers. After that they could trade him if they want to and I am sure by then they will no longer need Seeler. with Laughton I agree the Flyers should move him. I think they are open to moving him but are maybe not happy yet with what has been offered them. But the messaging has been clear throughout, this is not a tear it down to the studs rebuild, this is really more of a re-tool.
- jd250

no it is not cheap money for a good bottom pair dman. You can find that for 1-1.5 million every summer' also without term. He will be hard to trade with term left. Not worth his money or term. Bad deal for Danny boy.

so you finally admit there is no rebuild. That is progress.

It won’t happen. No owner wants to deal with that. Innocent of a crime or not he orchestrated the thing and it’s not worth the hassle for a pedestrian goalie.

Regardless of that try to have some moral standards.
- hereticpride

If he in fact orchestrated the thing, then he would likely be found guilty, correct? If he is found innocent and he can get his game at a level of a team having interest. He will get an opportunity in the future. Part of having a moral standard is that someone found not guilty shouldn't be treated as guilty.

If we’re going to criticize db for non moves we should give him kudos for when he’s done a good job. Walker is an example of a good job. He weaponized the cap space to eventually get a first pick out of it and he didn’t hold on to him to make the playoffs. That decision basically ended the season and that’s fine but good on him
- Hextall271

again they tried to hold on to him. why does that get lost? trading him wasn't his first choice.

end of the day the deal is fine. also amazes me now how losing walker killed the season.

I've kept quiet on trade speculation and scenarios for Konecny. I have no doubt in my mind I'll wake up Monday, July 1st, look at my phone and be like "God damnit "