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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 3 @ 8:49 PM ET
Murph is in pretty good shape hey
- Jkuzzi

Ozempic.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 3 @ 8:51 PM ET
WTF is it with all the ALB skids?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 3 @ 8:54 PM ET
Good sign.

- VanHockeyGuy

JT has assimilated well to the rich Vancouver life lol. Member at Cap and Hollyburn. Hopefully he is showing Zad how to live a good life on the west coast 🙏
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 3 @ 8:57 PM ET
JT has assimilated well to the rich Vancouver life lol. Member at Cap and Hollyburn. Hopefully he is showing Zad how to live a good life on the west coast 🙏
- CanuckDon


Him and Zad are team leaders
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 3 @ 8:59 PM ET
Him and Zad are team leaders
- VANTEL

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 3 @ 9:26 PM ET
It was my first time up there. Pretty sure I'll be going back again at some point. Apparently the road is much better now that it's paved.

@steamer
I've never had Blue Cod before. I'm guessing it's tasty because Ling sure is.

- Load Management

I find it a bit sweeter but green is my favorite.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 3 @ 9:48 PM ET
I find it a bit sweeter but green is my favorite.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Most Cod is great!
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jun 3 @ 9:50 PM ET
Most Cod is great!
- VanHockeyGuy


Fish n chips with Ling is almost unbeatable
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 3 @ 9:57 PM ET
Fishbuzz!
Caught a couple trout this weekend, just ate a rainbow off the bbq! Yum!
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Jun 3 @ 10:02 PM ET
Fishbuzz!
Caught a couple trout this weekend, just ate a rainbow off the bbq! Yum!

- K-man25


Nice.

I caught a pork roast at the store with my Mastercard the other day and did pulled pork last night. So good. Mastercard is such a good piece of bait
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 3 @ 10:11 PM ET
Nice.

I caught a pork roast at the store with my Mastercard the other day and did pulled pork last night. So good. Mastercard is such a good piece of bait

- Jkuzzi

I find cash is better bait.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 3 @ 10:28 PM ET
Fishbuzz!
Caught a couple trout this weekend, just ate a rainbow off the bbq! Yum!

- K-man25


I'm surprised Booner's knot on here. He's usually down for some fishing talk.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 3 @ 10:43 PM ET
I'm surprised Booner's knot on here. He's usually down for some fishing talk.
- Load Management

DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 3 @ 10:47 PM ET
I'm surprised Booner's knot on here. He's usually down for some fishing talk.
- Load Management


We just haven't got the right bait yet.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 4 @ 12:01 AM ET
I find cash is better bait.
- K-man25



NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 2:05 AM ET
I'm surprised Booner's knot on here. He's usually down for some fishing talk.
- Load Management


If you read the blog warning, there's a whole other thread dedicated to politics and fishing. Keep your dirty knot talk over there

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 8:01 AM ET
This is from Dom at the Athletic using his model to gauge prices for UFA centers – we all know how much people can hate his model but there's sweet fuck else to talk about so thought it was worthwhile to put here.




Finally, we get to the first real center — and it’s a doozy. There is no free-agent question more fascinating than “What is Elias Lindholm going to get?” As you can see from the chart above, the answer is very likely “a lot more than he deserves.”

Evolving Hockey’s projection on a seven-year deal is right in line with what’s been rumored all year: $8 million. No thanks.

That’s top-line-center money and I don’t believe Lindholm is of that caliber anymore. He certainly used to be, but a precipitous decline in a contract year feels like a giant red flag. That it’s his second straight year of decline after losing Matthew Tkachuk and Johnny Gaudreau as linemates makes that flag so scarlet it might as well be maroon.

There were a lot of questions that year regarding how much Lindholm was benefitting from playing with his all-world linemates, and in the years since, we got our answer. He scored 64 points the following season, but saw his five-on-five impact drop to below average. In 2023-24, he fell off a cliff entirely. He scored 44 points in 75 games, earned just 45 percent of the expected goals, and had an expected goal impact of minus-0.51 relative to teammates. That was the 22nd-worst mark in the league and played a role in his middling Net Rating of plus-0.6. That’s way down from plus-9.2 the season prior and plus-19.6 before that.

That’s an extremely erratic trajectory that makes it difficult to pinpoint what Lindholm is and can still be. Lindholm’s current projection of plus-6 suggests he isn’t nearly as poor as he was last season, but that the heights of previous years might also be unrealistic. That doesn’t mean he can’t get there, especially in a favorable situation with strong linemates like the one he had two seasons ago. But that’s probably not someone you pay $8 million or even $7 million. Especially with a lengthy term for a 29-year-old.

Lindholm has some defensive upside and can be a decent complementary player, but he’s not a play-driver with the puck. He’s not very involved in the neutral zone and struggled last year to create scoring chances, finishing below the 40th percentile in chances and chance assists per 60 according to data tracked by Corey Sznajder.

Lindholm is a solid player, but the numbers being lobbied for him seem completely out of touch with the player he currently is. Anything over $6 million is probably too much.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 4 @ 8:56 AM ET
If you read the blog warning, there's a whole other thread dedicated to politics and fishing. Keep your dirty knot talk over there


- NewYorkNuck


It was probably for the best but that thread was killed by the Nighthawk Free Zone.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 4 @ 9:55 AM ET
It was probably for the best but that thread was killed by the Nighthawk Free Zone.
- Load Management


Switched back to politics
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 4 @ 10:30 AM ET
Switched back to politics
- VanHockeyGuy

Really?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 4 @ 10:48 AM ET
This is from Dom at the Athletic using his model to gauge prices for UFA centers – we all know how much people can hate his model but there's sweet fuck else to talk about so thought it was worthwhile to put here.
- NewYorkNuck

Dom's out to lunch on a lot of stuff, but if I remember correctly I think he got the Hughes and Pettersson contracts fairly close.

The thing about Lindholm is if you sign him you have to imagine he's playing with Petey, so his numbers should improve, meaning the real fair number is somewhere in the middle.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:01 AM ET
Dom's out to lunch on a lot of stuff, but if I remember correctly I think he got the Hughes and Pettersson contracts fairly close.

The thing about Lindholm is if you sign him you have to imagine he's playing with Petey, so his numbers should improve, meaning the real fair number is somewhere in the middle.

- NorthNuck

He's not re-signing here. He will be a Bruin.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 4 @ 11:19 AM ET
He's not re-signing here. He will be a Bruin.
- Marwood

Also a fair argument, it did not seem like he was keen on Vancouver.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 4 @ 11:24 AM ET
Also a fair argument, it did not seem like he was keen on Vancouver.
- NorthNuck

Probably still pissed that he was trade bait at the deadline.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 4 @ 11:39 AM ET
He's not re-signing here. He will be a Bruin.
- Marwood


I highly doubt he's signing here as well, plus someone is gonna overpay as he's the best pure center on the market.

Hope Vancouver stays away and gets a top line winger instead
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