How hard do you want to work to want to get a guy that costs 8x2? Geez, at that price, they are retaining or taking something bad back in return. 8 per should get you a player that doesn't have warts.
- Slump Buster

I personally am not advocating for Trouba.

What I am saying though Is I don't think it's black and white that he's either a bad player with negative value or a great player with positive value.

What a system.


@CapFriendly
Here is the 2024 compensation for an offer sheet signed by any of this year's RFA's:

$1,511,701 AAV or less - No compensation
$1,5111,701 to $2,290,457 - 3rd round pick
$2,290,457 to $4,580,917 - 2nd round pick
$4,580,917 to $6,871,374 - 1st and 3rd round picks
$6,871,374 to $9,161,834 - 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks
$9,161,834 to $11,452,294 - Two 1st's, 2nd and 3rd round picks
Above $11,452,294 - Four 1st round picks
- Lunaion

I actually think it's one of the things the NHL got right. GM's are just big babies about it. Offer sheets should be way more common than they are, just maybe not for like Dustin Penner

I actually think it's one of the things the NHL got right. GM's are just big babies about it. Offer sheets should be way more common than they are, just maybe not for like Dustin Penner
- Wetbandit1

Or Kotkaniemi

Or Kotkaniemi
- DirtyDan

I guess Penner's season was better than I remember, 29 goals, but he was also 24, Kotkaniemi was only 20 when he signed his, and it was only a 1 year deal, and it was a troll for the Aho offer sheet. Like I said, big babies

I actually think it's one of the things the NHL got right. GM's are just big babies about it. Offer sheets should be way more common than they are, just maybe not for like Dustin Penner
- Wetbandit1

It's unspoken collusion. Sucks for players and fans.

4.5m for a 2nd rounder could get a lot.

Imagine if we let Edmonton take Vanek, we could have had Hall and Yakupov to go along with Girgensons and Freakorenko

Imagine if we let Edmonton take Vanek, we could have had Hall and Yakupov to go along with Girgensons and Freakorenko
- Jet Jaguar BD

Oh my

Imagine if we let Edmonton take Vanek, we could have had Hall and Yakupov to go along with Girgensons and Freakorenko
- Jet Jaguar BD

it would have been 2008,09, 10, and 11

no yak


https://oilersnation.com/...-a-seven-year-offer-sheet

it would have been 2008,09, 10, and 11

no yak


https://oilersnation.com/...-a-seven-year-offer-sheet
- homiedclown

Hey atleast we drafted TJ Brennan in 2007. Could have had one hell of a Defense

Hey atleast we drafted TJ Brennan in 2007. Could have had one hell of a Defense
- Buff36

the leading point scorer for the sabres in the 2011 playoffs was.................


not myers
not vanek
not staff
not pommer
not ennis
not connolly


Marc-Andre Gragnani

the leading point scorer for the sabres in the 2011 playoffs was.................


not myers
not vanek
not staff
not pommer
not ennis
not connolly


Marc-Andre Gragnani
- homiedclown

Had some big years when we were with the Portland Pirates as are AHL Team

I personally am not advocating for Trouba.

What I am saying though Is I don't think it's black and white that he's either a bad player with negative value or a great player with positive value.
- sbroads24

Do these negative value consider the QoC they typically play against.
Serious question as I don't know.

What a system.


@CapFriendly
Here is the 2024 compensation for an offer sheet signed by any of this year's RFA's:

$1,511,701 AAV or less - No compensation
$1,5111,701 to $2,290,457 - 3rd round pick
$2,290,457 to $4,580,917 - 2nd round pick
$4,580,917 to $6,871,374 - 1st and 3rd round picks
$6,871,374 to $9,161,834 - 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks
$9,161,834 to $11,452,294 - Two 1st's, 2nd and 3rd round picks
Above $11,452,294 - Four 1st round picks
- Lunaion

Where is the sweet spot for the Sabres? 6.9 to 11.4?

Where is the sweet spot for the Sabres? 6.9 to 11.4?
- Hatboro_Swords

I'd say up to 4.5 is the sweet spot.

I'd say up to 4.5 is the sweet spot.
- Lunaion

There’s a range where a significant number of teams are eliminated from making an offer because they don’t have the required compensation to make the offer. I think it’s the 1st and 2nd combo. Who knew a 2nd rounder would be so valuable.

There’s a range where a significant number of teams are eliminated from making an offer because they don’t have the required compensation to make the offer. I think it’s the 1st and 2nd combo. Who knew a 2nd rounder would be so valuable.
- Hatboro_Swords

Bet you could make some teams squirm just with 4.5m offers.

@CapFriendly
Top 10 RFA defensemen ranked by time on ice last season:

1. F Hronek (VAN)
2. S Durzi (UTA)
3. M Seider (DET)
4. T Harley (DAL)
5. J Moser (UTA)
6. T Liljegren (TOR)
7. J LaCombe (ANA)
8. R Lindgren (NYR)
9. J Välimäki (UTA)
10. H Jokiharju (BUF)

@CapFriendly
Top 20 RFA forwards ranked by points last season:

1. L Raymond (DET)
2. S Jarvis (CAR)
3. C Mittelstadt (COL
4. Q Byfield (LAK)
5. M Necas (CAR)
6. K Marchenko (CBJ)
7. E Tolvanen (SEA)
8. C Perfetti (WPG)
9. M Beniers (SEA)
10. A Lundell (FLA)
11. C McMichael (WSH)
12. D Mercer (NJD)
13. C Sillinger (CBJ)
14. A Texier (CBJ)
15. Y Chinakhov (CBJ)
16. J Veleno (DET)
17. J Drury (CAR)
18. N Robertson (TOR)
19. S Pinto (OTT)
20. S Holmström (NYI)

Bet you could make some teams squirm just with 4.5m offers.

@CapFriendly
Top 10 RFA defensemen ranked by time on ice last season:

1. F Hronek (VAN)
2. S Durzi (UTA)
3. M Seider (DET)
4. T Harley (DAL)
5. J Moser (UTA)
6. T Liljegren (TOR)
7. J LaCombe (ANA)
8. R Lindgren (NYR)
9. J Välimäki (UTA)
10. H Jokiharju (BUF)

@CapFriendly
Top 20 RFA forwards ranked by points last season:

1. L Raymond (DET)
2. S Jarvis (CAR)
3. C Mittelstadt (COL
4. Q Byfield (LAK)
5. M Necas (CAR)
6. K Marchenko (CBJ)
7. E Tolvanen (SEA)
8. C Perfetti (WPG)
9. M Beniers (SEA)
10. A Lundell (FLA)
11. C McMichael (WSH)
12. D Mercer (NJD)
13. C Sillinger (CBJ)
14. A Texier (CBJ)
15. Y Chinakhov (CBJ)
16. J Veleno (DET)
17. J Drury (CAR)
18. N Robertson (TOR)
19. S Pinto (OTT)
20. S Holmström (NYI)
- Lunaion

Man, look at the names on those lists. Do u know if they are all arbitration eligible?

Man, look at the names on those lists. Do u know if they are all arbitration eligible?
- Hatboro_Swords

I didn't look. They put it out right around the same time as the arb comp, so I just assumed they were.

Bet you could make some teams squirm just with 4.5m offers.

@CapFriendly
Top 10 RFA defensemen ranked by time on ice last season:

1. F Hronek (VAN)
2. S Durzi (UTA)
3. M Seider (DET)
4. T Harley (DAL)
5. J Moser (UTA)
6. T Liljegren (TOR)
7. J LaCombe (ANA)
8. R Lindgren (NYR)
9. J Välimäki (UTA)
10. H Jokiharju (BUF)

@CapFriendly
Top 20 RFA forwards ranked by points last season:

1. L Raymond (DET)
2. S Jarvis (CAR)
3. C Mittelstadt (COL
4. Q Byfield (LAK)
5. M Necas (CAR)
6. K Marchenko (CBJ)
7. E Tolvanen (SEA)
8. C Perfetti (WPG)
9. M Beniers (SEA)
10. A Lundell (FLA)
11. C McMichael (WSH)
12. D Mercer (NJD)
13. C Sillinger (CBJ)
14. A Texier (CBJ)
15. Y Chinakhov (CBJ)
16. J Veleno (DET)
17. J Drury (CAR)
18. N Robertson (TOR)
19. S Pinto (OTT)
20. S Holmström (NYI)
- Lunaion

The problem is the player has to sign the offer sheet.

The problem is the player has to sign the offer sheet.
- TheHank

I know KA is never going to OS anyone. Would just be fun if the league were a little more cut-throat.

I know KA is never going to OS anyone. Would just be fun if the league were a little more cut-throat.
- Lunaion

He’s loves his picks and loves his drafted players.

That attachment is his major downfall as a GM. Billy Beane in real life and the movie …. Didn’t travel with team. So he wouldn’t get attached and he could trade and cut them easier

He’s loves his picks and loves his drafted players.

That attachment is his major downfall as a GM. Billy Beane in real life and the movie …. Didn’t travel with team. So he wouldn’t get attached and he could trade and cut them easier
- Sabretooth9

Big shift from offer sheets to a semi-fictional movie GM.

I think we need to expand our minds on what we think is plus/minus value to a team.

These guys have bad underlying numbers but seem to always play on teams that go deep in the postseason
- sbroads24

You'd be hard pressed to find a fan expressing positivity in relation to troubas season.

Also, one or two duds isn't going to sink the ship.

The Sabres had Kalinin after all.

You'd be hard pressed to find a fan expressing positivity in relation to troubas season.

Also, one or two duds isn't going to sink the ship.

The Sabres had Kalinin after all.
- TheSabresTaco

Nails

You'd be hard pressed to find a fan expressing positivity in relation to troubas season.

Also, one or two duds isn't going to sink the ship.

The Sabres had Kalinin after all.
- TheSabresTaco

Well I guess atleast they have something to talk about, are Captain cashed his chips in November.