I think we need to expand our minds on what we think is plus/minus value to a team.

These guys have bad underlying numbers but seem to always play on teams that go deep in the postseason
- sbroads24

- Swedish_Jesus

Top 5

Big shift from offer sheets to a semi-fictional movie GM.
- Lunaion

You do realize that Billy Beane is a real person and moneyball is based on actual real events.

- Swedish_Jesus

Adams should never sign an old over the hill guy for leadership ever again.

On paper …. I get it. But when playing it out. Never again

You do realize that Billy Beane is a real person and moneyball is based on actual real events.
- Sabretooth9

and you know loosely based on real events doesn't make the scenes and dialogue all real, right?

It's great for the meme's.

and you know loosely based on real events doesn't make the scenes and dialogue all real, right?

It's great for the meme's.
- Lunaion

No, he legitimately didn’t fly with the team and truly didn’t want to connect with players.

He has an interview on YouTube talking about it

Bet you could make some teams squirm just with 4.5m offers.

@CapFriendly
Top 10 RFA defensemen ranked by time on ice last season:

1. F Hronek (VAN)
2. S Durzi (UTA)
3. M Seider (DET)
4. T Harley (DAL)
5. J Moser (UTA)
6. T Liljegren (TOR)
7. J LaCombe (ANA)
8. R Lindgren (NYR)
9. J Välimäki (UTA)
10. H Jokiharju (BUF)

@CapFriendly
Top 20 RFA forwards ranked by points last season:

1. L Raymond (DET)
2. S Jarvis (CAR)
3. C Mittelstadt (COL
4. Q Byfield (LAK)
5. M Necas (CAR)
6. K Marchenko (CBJ)
7. E Tolvanen (SEA)
8. C Perfetti (WPG)
9. M Beniers (SEA)
10. A Lundell (FLA)
11. C McMichael (WSH)
12. D Mercer (NJD)
13. C Sillinger (CBJ)
14. A Texier (CBJ)
15. Y Chinakhov (CBJ)
16. J Veleno (DET)
17. J Drury (CAR)
18. N Robertson (TOR)
19. S Pinto (OTT)
20. S Holmström (NYI)
- Lunaion

You might be able to make Florida squirm a bit with a $4.5M offer to Lundell.

There’s a range where a significant number of teams are eliminated from making an offer because they don’t have the required compensation to make the offer. I think it’s the 1st and 2nd combo. Who knew a 2nd rounder would be so valuable.
- Hatboro_Swords

https://www.capfriendly.com/offer-sheet-calculator

https://www.capfriendly.com/offer-sheet-calculator
- kingcong39

Really doesn't affect to many until you get to the 6 to 9mill range. And can't see Adams doing that.

You do realize that Billy Beane is a real person and moneyball is based on actual real events.
- Sabretooth9

He doesn't even know what year it is, you should remind him.

He doesn't even know what year it is, you should remind him.
- washedup20

It's the Spring of '51.

Do I get the Kind Green Ape Pen now?

He doesn't even know what year it is, you should remind him.
- washedup20

Fitz calling out one of the most Rational and knowledgeable poster on here. Kids gotta stop eating the Paint chips.

https://oilersnation.com/...ch-marner-to-be-traded-to

There was interest, a lot of it, general manager Danny Brière said from down in Tampa afterward, but nothing compelling enough to make a deal. "Fair value" wasn't going to cut it, Brière said, because for everything Laughton has brought to the Flyers, especially in the past two years as the organization set out on its rebuild, he means a whole lot more than that.

"I was upfront with him," Brière said. "I told him that I wasn't shopping him, first of all. I wasn't gonna trade him for fair value because he's more than fair value to us. The intangibles that he brings in the locker room are something that has no price, and the other teams don't see that, but we do. I told him that. I said 'We're not gonna trade you if it's just a fair trade.' Someone would have to overstep and really knock it out of the ballpark for us to consider it.

https://www.phillyvoice.c...e-culture-leadership-nhl/

for a guy who absolutely collapsed in the realm of erik johnson, he must be quite the leader.

A lot of familiar names brought up.

https://youtu.be/D5LVgJUdWkk?si=NxZdPyKfuhFKUung

Really doesn't affect to many until you get to the 6 to 9mill range. And can't see Adams doing that.
- Buff36

Lun is right that the 2nd round pick compensation is the sweet spot.

Lun is right that the 2nd round pick compensation is the sweet spot.
- kingcong39

Yeah, still 20 or so teams that can. Depending on there Cap space I guess. I just can't see Adams doing it, has a hard enough time with the Day to Day stuff!🤷‍♂️

Lun is right that the 2nd round pick compensation is the sweet spot.
- kingcong39

Offer Sheet Season Has Arrived season

There was interest, a lot of it, general manager Danny Brière said from down in Tampa afterward, but nothing compelling enough to make a deal. "Fair value" wasn't going to cut it, Brière said, because for everything Laughton has brought to the Flyers, especially in the past two years as the organization set out on its rebuild, he means a whole lot more than that.

"I was upfront with him," Brière said. "I told him that I wasn't shopping him, first of all. I wasn't gonna trade him for fair value because he's more than fair value to us. The intangibles that he brings in the locker room are something that has no price, and the other teams don't see that, but we do. I told him that. I said 'We're not gonna trade you if it's just a fair trade.' Someone would have to overstep and really knock it out of the ballpark for us to consider it.

https://www.phillyvoice.c...e-culture-leadership-nhl/
- TheSabresTaco

Kevyn Adams really is going to trade 11 for him, isn't he

Kevyn Adams really is going to trade 11 for him, isn't he
- Hank Balling

my bastion of hope lies in the quote he gave about not seeking out "veteran leadership" anymore and - and i'm rephrasing - he cares more about good players than leadership

11 would be so, so sad.

https://www.capfriendly.com/offer-sheet-calculator
- kingcong39

Like I said. I think on a much different level

Every player has warts. We employ frankin Jeff Skinner for more than 8 per.
- DirtyDan

Well, yes, and that is the point

my bastion of hope lies in the quote he gave about not seeking out "veteran leadership" anymore and - and i'm rephrasing - he cares more about good players than leadership

11 would be so, so sad.
- TheSabresTaco

If he did that, his whole analytics team should start looking for new jobs as they aren’t at the table at all

Kevyn Adams really is going to trade 11 for him, isn't he
- Hank Balling

That would break me. I don't want him for Krebs straight up.

Actually, I don't want him at all. If those are the type of players we're targeting, we're going to extend the drought almost assuredly.