I meant to say, why would Ottawa do that?
- TheSabresTaco

I guess he is going to be out a bit and they have other C's ready to go... He is currently paid 6x$8m and they may want out
Somewhat similar to us w SKINNER sans the injury

if he played 12 minutes a night, he is not hurting the team

the problem is he was playing over 17 minutes a night

a team that constantly misses the playoffs has more holes than a head coach in their lineup
- homiedclown

Does he make his own ice-time?

Everyone knows he was playing higher in the lineup than he should have been. Thats not the players fault

Hes just as good if not better than Trenin who you've been clamoring for the last 3 months.
- DirtyDan

No, no he's not

No, no he's not
- Buff36

Yes, yes he is.

Pts wise. Defensively. Really any way you look at it.

if he played 12 minutes a night, he is not hurting the team

the problem is he was playing over 17 minutes a night

a team that constantly misses the playoffs has more holes than a head coach in their lineup
- homiedclown

Well, yes - I think I have said that all along. He was absolutely brutal when they moved him up. He was good when they let him be where he belongs. There were holes on the team last year (Girgs and Krebs come to mind), but I don't consider him one.

He has 1 year left on his contract, he is making 3 mill a year. Are we resigning him, I think we can do better.
- Buff36

Incarceratedbob was correct:

Yes, yes he is.

Pts wise. Defensively. Really any way you look at it.
- DirtyDan

Trenin is a much better skater and actually will drop the gloves.

Think he trades the pick, wouldn't be surprised if it's with Jersey either
- Buff36

What would you see coming back?

Does he make his own ice-time?

Everyone knows he was playing higher in the lineup than he should have been. Thats not the players fault
- DirtyDan

i blame the lack of fans cheering him on at the arena

stutzle, pinto, norris is a pretty good 1-2-3 punch down the middle
- homiedclown

If Norris at $8m is your 3C with Grieg there too ... That is a Cap Problem. Grieg becomes 3C with Norris buyout at 50% discount if done before 7/01.

Will be interesting to watch.

What would you see coming back?
- Slump Buster

A Rempe knuckle sammich

Well, yes - I think I have said that all along. He was absolutely brutal when they moved him up. He was good when they let him be where he belongs. There were holes on the team last year (Girgs and Krebs come to mind), but I don't consider him one.
- Slump Buster

krebs was a plus player on the 4th line which is probably the 17th or 18th reason why we missed the playoffs

Theoretical question.

The Kings call and say that they will take Skinner with no celery retained, and he agrees to waive his NMC.

The cost? We have to send this year's first and second picks. Nothing comes back.

do you do it?

krebs was a plus player on the 4th line which is probably the 17th or 18th reason why we missed the playoffs
- homiedclown

Maybe it is unfair to group him in with them, but that line was useless. Congrats that he kept his head above water. Either way, if we are talking about improving the team, he is still a candidate (and a better one that Greenway)

krebs was a plus player on the 4th line which is probably the 17th or 18th reason why we missed the playoffs
- homiedclown

My sauce told me Brett Murray farted and the gust of fart was so powerful it blew Krebs over...also turned Okposo's bubbles green, that's why he got cut.

What would you see coming back?
- Slump Buster

Think he's going after Jesper Bratt

Trenin is a much better skater and actually will drop the gloves.
- Buff36

Okay, they're both 4th liners who are good in their roles.

Replacing Greenway with Trenin would move ZERO needles. Its a lateral pointless move. The only thing it'd do is save you some cap for this year...which we dont really need.

but people were calling adams a top 5 gm
- homiedclown

Think anyone was actually serious?

Think he's going after Jesper Bratt
- Buff36

Oh wow, that would be amazing. I'd be thrilled to give up ++ for him.

krebs was a plus player on the 4th line which is probably the 17th or 18th reason why we missed the playoffs
- homiedclown

And yet we're complaining about a 4th line player cause the coach played him up in the lineup...... The problem was not the player people...

Theoretical question.

The Kings call and say that they will take Skinner with no celery retained, and he agrees to waive his NMC.

The cost? We have to send this year's first and second picks. Nothing comes back.

do you do it?
- Slump Buster

Nope

Nope
- IonSabres

I actually would as it would accomplish two things:

1) Skinner will never be a guy that plays in a system. Ever. Quite possibly the worst defensive hockey player in the league.

2). It buys you 27 mill in cap space over the next three years. That allows you to shop or keep your guys.

Think he's going after Jesper Bratt
- Buff36

Thinking about this some more... the return would have to start with Quinn or Peterka, right? I don't know if I love that.

I actually would as it would accomplish two things:

1) Skinner will never be a guy that plays in a system. Ever. Quite possibly the worst defensive hockey player in the league.

2). It buys you 27 mill in cap space over the next three years. That allows you to shop or keep your guys.
- Slump Buster

Can I exchange the 2025 first

Thinking about this some more... the return would have to start with Quinn or Peterka, right? I don't know if I love that.
- Slump Buster

I would hate it. Bratt is meh. Would prefer Necas.