Does anyone know the condition of Norris’ shoulder, which has kept him out of good portions od the last two seasons? Considering the teeth gnashing here about an unknown injury, imagine if it was about a known one.
- Chunk

Shoulder surgery last March. 3rd such surgery in as many years. We need the medical experts here to determine his long term prognosis.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...is-injured-out-for-season

Does anyone know the condition of Norris’ shoulder, which has kept him out of good portions od the last two seasons? Considering the teeth gnashing here about an unknown injury, imagine if it was about a known one.
- Chunk

Hawks would have to do there work and see what Norris's shoulder condition is at. He has had at least 2 shoulder surgeries I know of.

If he is there at 18 by all means draft him I personally would rather Hage.
Hawks take Josh Norris korpoisolo and 7th overall pick for the 18th and 34th picks from Chicago. Di you do this deal
- Scott1977

Pretty sure I would.

#7 might be as good as a player as #2.

Walk away with Demidov and one of Silyev or D!ckerson i for one would be a happy camper, even missing out on Eiserman

Edit;

I didn't realize how much term Norris had, change my answer to no, if i'm trading #18, I'd rather have Necas

Pretty sure I would.

#7 might be as good as a player as #2.

Walk away with Demidov and one of Silyev or D!ckerson i for one would be a happy camper, even missing out on Eiserman

Edit;

I didn't realize how much term Norris had, change my answer to no, if i'm trading #18, I'd rather have Necas
- vabeachbear

Only proposed to get the 7th overall pick there are other teams that the could take advantage of who are in cap he'll. Or teams looking to make a trade or sign a specific player they want but need to move out a player to do so.

If Edmonton lose tonight it proves there’s a conspiracy against Canada.

If Edmonton lose tonight it proves there’s a conspiracy against Canada.
- paulr

2-0 Oil…Edmonton is on fire to start the game.

2-0 Oil…Edmonton is on fire to start the game.
- DarthKane

And Florida looks calm and poised. Ceci and Nurse are good for at least two pizzas each, so I expect this game to be decided by a goal, probably in Florida's favor.

2-0 Oil…Edmonton is on fire to start the game.
- DarthKane

You know how conspiracies work, they let you get so far then they pull it away.

And Florida looks calm and poised. Ceci and Nurse are good for at least two pizzas each, so I expect this game to be decided by a goal, probably in Florida's favor.
- Dieselhead

5-1 Oilers

And Florida looks calm and poised. Ceci and Nurse are good for at least two pizzas each, so I expect this game to be decided by a goal, probably in Florida's favor.
- Dieselhead

Crow not tasting too good right now.

I’d consider taking him based on what the medical report NHL teams are using. A herniated disc is extremely common and there are different grades of injury with different prognosis of recovery. Over half the Canadian Rugby team members have had a herniated disc and after treatment none has impacted the player and the injury hasn’t recurred. Herniated discs qualified with ‘degenerative’ or injuries requiring surgery are the red flag issues. Herniated discs are very common and can be treated with exercise and stretching regimens resulting in long term success unless there are other medical conditions associated.
- paulr

Most people have one to some degree including pro athletes. My understanding is that it becomes an issue when it starts compressing on a nerve.

Most people have one to some degree including pro athletes. My understanding is that it becomes an issue when it starts compressing on a nerve.
- bhawks2241

Most bad word choice. A lot of people. Very common and usually not an issue.

5-1 Oilers
- DarthKane

Looks like the talk Duncan Keith had with the team about being down to the Canucks 3-0 is helping.

Looks like the talk Duncan Keith had with the team about being down to the Canucks 3-0 is helping.
- BetweenTheDots

I’ll be shocked if Edmonton wins another game.

Shoulder surgery last March. 3rd such surgery in as many years. We need the medical experts here to determine his long term prognosis.

https://www.nhl.com/news/...is-injured-out-for-season
- boilermaker100

That nixes deal for Norris-,cannot rely upon him for healthy seasons after three surgeries. You get sound encouragement medical opinion Nonetheless too big a risk


Other: Edmonton probably will not come back all the way. Florida is much better than Vancouver. Edmonton is too susceptible on defense. Even if Edmonton rides emotion and forges a tied series, I take Florida in a game seven.If Bobrowski is injured and his replacement is not up to par, then Edmonton might have a chance

A 3 game sweep, with 2 on the road, is a big big ask. Do they have it in them? I guess stay tuned.

I’ll be shocked if Edmonton wins another game.
- DarthKane

Ever.

I’ll be shocked if Edmonton wins another game.
- DarthKane

Well, even in a disappointing Cup final defeat, the fans and city got that win under their belt.

Did back-up netminder Stolarz wake up a sleeping giant?

Bob might have lost a game not his reflexes.

I don't think the Florida fans are tearing up that they play in South Florida next game.

Well I'm going with who i would draft, it's true i would like to see these players live because i was really impressed with KKs athleticism live at the same time Vlasic was the best dman on the ice. Levshunov seems stiff to me like Seth Jones when it comes to dmen, he'd be a solid pick but i would draft Silayev. To me at worst you get a 20+ minute dman but i just can't shake how he looks like Roman Josi skating on the ice. To me there's so much potential to his game.
- BetweenTheDots

I got the opposite impression of Levshunov. I think that he looks extremely fluid on both edges, going forward, going backwards, dropping into a mohawk is all really seamless. And his open ice stride is super powerful looking.

Silayev looks even better moving around which is tough to believe.

Glad it's not my job to pick.

I got the opposite impression of Levshunov. I think that he looks extremely fluid on both edges, going forward, going backwards, dropping into a mohawk is all really seamless. And his open ice stride is super powerful looking.

Silayev looks even better moving around which is tough to believe.

Glad it's not my job to pick.
- fattybeef

The Hockey News compares D!ckinson vs Levshunov and SD slightly edges AL out. Factoring in left shot vs right shot and they’re even.

50 years ago:
New York Rangers star forward Rod Gilbert underwent spinal fusion surgery at a New York City hospital. Early indications suggest that the operation was a complete success. The operation, which took over three hours, was performed by Dr. Kazuo Yanagisawa, the Rangers club physician.
He played at a hifgh level afterward.

Was anyone expecting Lindstrom to play in the pros nxt year?

Have these surgeries improved vastly in 50 years?

I would not believe it IF he DID drop to #18.

(I guess I will change my board...)
- wiz1901

I think a lot depends on age and individual.

If you look at information on labrum tears in hips - it's like 96% of cadavers have some kind of abnormality. 96% of people aren't getting hip replacements or getting scoped.

The amount of people with some kind of disk damage that is inconsequential is probably pretty high and is probably going to get higher with the obesity and garbage diet problem in North America especially.

I have family who has had disk issues and the general assumption is that they weren't problems until they were.

Anyway - will that impact a professional athlete. Maybe, maybe not. If you look at most athletes who have corrective measures taken on their back, they are typically on their back nine and IS that dip from the back surgery or from natural decline being exacerbated by an injury - there isn't really any meaningful data on that.

If he has a minor thing that they think will self resolve and be manageable for the next 10 years, then I don't think there is as much risk. The outcomes from these operations are getting much better.

Eichel has had a good outcome it looks like. He's still slightly above a ppg player, skates tremendously and plays a physical game.

Don't think it changes the board much. Levshunov is still the safest, Demidov the most dynamic and Lindstrom and the other big Russian defender having a chance to be some kinda special unicorn type player.

50 years ago:
New York Rangers star forward Rod Gilbert underwent spinal fusion surgery at a New York City hospital. Early indications suggest that the operation was a complete success. The operation, which took over three hours, was performed by Dr. Kazuo Yanagisawa, the Rangers club physician.
He played at a hifgh level afterward.

Was anyone expecting Lindstrom to play in the pros nxt year?

Have these surgeries improved vastly in 50 years?

I would not believe it IF he DID drop to #18.

(I guess I will change my board...)
- wiz1901

I think a lot depends on age and individual.

If you look at information on labrum tears in hips - it's like 96% of cadavers have some kind of abnormality. 96% of people aren't getting hip replacements or getting scoped.

The amount of people with some kind of disk damage that is inconsequential is probably pretty high and is probably going to get higher with the obesity and garbage diet problem in North America especially.

I have family who has had disk issues and the general assumption is that they weren't problems until they were.

Anyway - will that impact a professional athlete. Maybe, maybe not. If you look at most athletes who have corrective measures taken on their back, they are typically on their back nine and IS that dip from the back surgery or from natural decline being exacerbated by an injury - there isn't really any meaningful data on that.

If he has a minor thing that they think will self resolve and be manageable for the next 10 years, then I don't think there is as much risk. The outcomes from these operations are getting much better.

Eichel has had a good outcome it looks like. He's still slightly above a ppg player, skates tremendously and plays a physical game.

Don't think it changes the board much. Levshunov is still the safest, Demidov the most dynamic and Lindstrom and the other big Russian defender having a chance to be some kinda special unicorn type player.

I think a lot depends on age and individual.

If you look at information on labrum tears in hips - it's like 96% of cadavers have some kind of abnormality. 96% of people aren't getting hip replacements or getting scoped.

The amount of people with some kind of disk damage that is inconsequential is probably pretty high and is probably going to get higher with the obesity and garbage diet problem in North America especially.

I have family who has had disk issues and the general assumption is that they weren't problems until they were.

Anyway - will that impact a professional athlete. Maybe, maybe not. If you look at most athletes who have corrective measures taken on their back, they are typically on their back nine and IS that dip from the back surgery or from natural decline being exacerbated by an injury - there isn't really any meaningful data on that.

If he has a minor thing that they think will self resolve and be manageable for the next 10 years, then I don't think there is as much risk. The outcomes from these operations are getting much better.

Eichel has had a good outcome it looks like. He's still slightly above a ppg player, skates tremendously and plays a physical game.

Don't think it changes the board much. Levshunov is still the safest, Demidov the most dynamic and Lindstrom and the other big Russian defender having a chance to be some kinda special unicorn type player.
- fattybeef

You don’t tank a season and then take a risk with your first pick, the #18 is a different story. That is why I think Levshunov is their first pick. Twelve days to go.
Happy Father’s Day to all the dads out there

I’ll be shocked if Edmonton wins another game.
- DarthKane

Not me, they have shown being down in the last 2 series they can come back. Being down 3-0 is a tall order for sure but now it doesn't seem as tall because it's 3-1 now. The 4th win in a hockey playoff series is a very hard thing to do. Did the Oilers discover something when they put 2 goals in at the end of the 3rd game loss? It sure looks like it

I got the opposite impression of Levshunov. I think that he looks extremely fluid on both edges, going forward, going backwards, dropping into a mohawk is all really seamless. And his open ice stride is super powerful looking.

Silayev looks even better moving around which is tough to believe.

Glad it's not my job to pick.
- fattybeef

I hear you the draft room has a very difficult decision to make, when i say stiff, i should use a better word, i mean in the sense when he has the puck on his stick his hockey sense is the opposite of Buium, his reads look thought out and deliberate to me from the few games I've seen him play.