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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:23 AM ET
I hear you the draft room has a very difficult decision to make, when i say stiff, i should use a better word, i mean in the sense when he has the puck on his stick his hockey sense is the opposite of Buium, his reads look thought out and deliberate to me from the few games I've seen him play.
- BetweenTheDots

Buium reads like a more well rounded Parekh, not as dynamic offensively but better defensively. D!ckinson sounds like an old school defender, defensively solid, not as strong offensively as the other two, but a great skater with a cannon for a shot and a mean physical presence. Levshunov is scouted as a two way defenseman who’s not as strong offensively as ZB and ZP and not as good defensively as SD but the most well rounded. And the the freak of nature, Anton Silayev who combines above average skating with the potential to be great offensively as well as being a beast defensively and physically. If Davidson is looking at the backend, how the hell does he decide?
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 16 @ 12:34 PM ET
Buium reads like a more well rounded Parekh, not as dynamic offensively but better defensively. D!ckinson sounds like an old school defender, defensively solid, not as strong offensively as the other two, but a great skater with a cannon for a shot and a mean physical presence. Levshunov is scouted as a two way defenseman who’s not as strong offensively as ZB and ZP and not as good defensively as SD but the most well rounded. And the the freak of nature, Anton Silayev who combines above average skating with the potential to be great offensively as well as being a beast defensively and physically. If Davidson is looking at the backend, how the hell does he decide?
- paulr

I had a dream last night the Sharks took Levshunov and we got Celebrini!
GPHawksfan
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Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
And Florida looks calm and poised. Ceci and Nurse are good for at least two pizzas each, so I expect this game to be decided by a goal, probably in Florida's favor.
- Dieselhead

Good call
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jun 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
Most bad word choice. A lot of people. Very common and usually not an issue.
- bhawks2241

If youre not playing hockey.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
You don’t tank a season and then take a risk with your first pick, the #18 is a different story. That is why I think Levshunov is their first pick. Twelve days to go.
Happy Father’s Day to all the dads out there

- Angotti


Exactly, all these stats have to do the normal people, not NHL hockey players who at this point, are only 18 yrs old with back issues.

You could tell me 90% of hockey players don't have an issue again, and I still wouldn't use the #2 pick on him.

And of course you can't tell me that, cause other than Wiz's example of a guy 50 years ago, i don't remember NHL players with back issues being super productive over the next decade after their surgery.

This pick needs to be a star for the next decade.
LFS
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Joined: 02.08.2021

Jun 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
Not me, they have shown being down in the last 2 series they can come back. Being down 3-0 is a tall order for sure but now it doesn't seem as tall because it's 3-1 now. The 4th win in a hockey playoff series is a very hard thing to do. Did the Oilers discover something when they put 2 goals in at the end of the 3rd game loss? It sure looks like it
- BetweenTheDots

Yjey discovered that lucky deflections count.
Matt_Foleys_bro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.11.2012

Jun 16 @ 4:29 PM ET
I had a dream last night the Sharks took Levshunov and we got Celebrini!
- rpeters01

Because of Celebrini's facial expression at the lottery draft??? Ha! We can only hope!
Scott1977
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Jun 16 @ 5:18 PM ET
This for the panel say Hawks get lanie if they wanted to expand the trade to include Kent Johnson what would that trade look like. If the Hawks could pull it off the trade would solve key areas of need. 2nd line center and top six forward, and help in the top six for Benard.
Angotti
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Jun 16 @ 6:52 PM ET
This for the panel say Hawks get lanie if they wanted to expand the trade to include Kent Johnson what would that trade look like. If the Hawks could pull it off the trade would solve key areas of need. 2nd line center and top six forward, and help in the top six for Benard.
- Scott1977

For Laine not sure, if you include Johnson you better be prepared to pay, as he was a top five pick two drafts ago. Maybe 18, 50, and Allan, and that might not be enough.
Scott1977
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Jun 16 @ 7:17 PM ET
For Laine not sure, if you include Johnson you better be prepared to pay, as he was a top five pick two drafts ago. Maybe 18, 50, and Allan, and that might not be enough.
- Angotti

Just curious that's all.
wiz1901
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Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 16 @ 7:40 PM ET
This for the panel say Hawks get lanie if they wanted to expand the trade to include Kent Johnson what would that trade look like. If the Hawks could pull it off the trade would solve key areas of need. 2nd line center and top six forward, and help in the top six for Benard.
- Scott1977


I am not so sure Kent Johnson is a high answer to any Hawk rebuild; Laine's shot is great, his salry and 200 foot game are not, so as far as past pratcice, theybrought in older vets that play the game the "right way" and I don't think they are running a re-hab, but a rebuild.

Neither moves the needle to a nucleus for a Cup run in 6 years.

I doubt they are quitung on Johnson's upside just yet that they are giving him away...

Scott1977
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Jun 16 @ 8:06 PM ET
I am not so sure Kent Johnson is a high answer to any Hawk rebuild; Laine's shot is great, his salry and 200 foot game are not, so as far as past pratcice, theybrought in older vets that play the game the "right way" and I don't think they are running a re-hab, but a rebuild.

Neither moves the needle to a nucleus for a Cup run in 6 years.

I doubt they are quitung on Johnson's upside just yet that they are giving him away...

- wiz1901

Just throwing an idea out there about acquiring younger talent. That's all
vabeachbear
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Jun 16 @ 8:39 PM ET
Just throwing an idea out there about acquiring younger talent. That's all
- Scott1977


Not sure I would consider less than .5 pts per game smallish center talent.

My opinion only, but if they are going to accelerate the rebuild, it better be for someone who's a difference maker.

I can't understand at all why anyone would talk about Laine at this point of the rebuild. Seems crazy and irresponsible to me. Adding people on to that trade and giving away more picks seems even crazier to me.

KD doesn't strike me as the crazy type.

If I'm giving away 18, 34, or even 50, it better be someone of Necas level talent.
BetweenTheDots
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Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 16 @ 9:25 PM ET
This for the panel say Hawks get lanie if they wanted to expand the trade to include Kent Johnson what would that trade look like. If the Hawks could pull it off the trade would solve key areas of need. 2nd line center and top six forward, and help in the top six for Benard.
- Scott1977


Laine is an issue for CBJs. You can't motivate a player that has to come from within, based on KDs draft profile he doesn't fit AT ALL!

If Laine is traded here it will come with a really good young prospect, no other way he will be a Blackhawk
Scott1977
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Jun 16 @ 10:05 PM ET
Not sure I would consider less than .5 pts per game smallish center talent.

My opinion only, but if they are going to accelerate the rebuild, it better be for someone who's a difference maker.

I can't understand at all why anyone would talk about Laine at this point of the rebuild. Seems crazy and irresponsible to me. Adding people on to that trade and giving away more picks seems even crazier to me.

KD doesn't strike me as the crazy type.

If I'm giving away 18, 34, or even 50, it better be someone of Necas level talent.

- vabeachbear
It's been rumored Hawks are in on Laine to what extent who knows. Rather have necas fits more to what the Hawks are building.
jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 16 @ 10:05 PM ET
Good call
- GPHawksfan

I believe that Florida will win the cup irregardless of a sustained come back in the series by the Oilers. This is probably the odds in Vegas. In my observation - which I am fairly certain many share - Florida is the better team and Edmonton has two dmen who are weak defensively yet dynamic talented players who they will ride to victory or defeat. When Florida absolutely has to win they will knock Edmonton down if it goes to game six or seven

Do you share this view or do you have a different read on how the series turns
LAHawk
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Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 16 @ 10:19 PM ET
It's been rumored Hawks are in on Laine to what extent who knows. Rather have necas fits more to what the Hawks are building.
- Scott1977


Laine’s acquisition cost is minimal, Necas will cost a First and a prospect because they do not have an NHL talent good enough to trade that Carolina would want. IMO, the Hawks end up with neither of them.
jhawk59
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Jun 16 @ 10:35 PM ET
Laine’s acquisition cost is minimal, Necas will cost a First and a prospect because they do not have an NHL talent good enough to trade that Carolina would want. IMO, the Hawks end up with neither of them.
- LAHawk


“…….the Hawks end up with neither of them”

Which would be a good outcome.

Stick to the rebuild primarily through draft choices. Do not use precious draft choices on overpayment for a player who isn’t all that great. Stay far away from Laine even if you could acquire him for a song, that is, for cheap.

One more year of being bad, maybe last year we will wind up with an early Entry Draft choice is on the horizon. KD can find someone to play with Bedard and along with at minimum the addition of Slaggert and Nazar…..we won’t be pathetic offensively. I know Hall is likely going to be missing time with injuries and Foligno another year older, but we ride with them too. Not sure whether Athansiue is returning. Sure would help is Reichel can get his game together.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 16 @ 10:49 PM ET
“…….the Hawks end up with neither of them”

Which would be a good outcome.

Stick to the rebuild primarily through draft choices. Do not use precious draft choices on overpayment for a player who isn’t all that great. Stay far away from Laine even if you could acquire him for a song, that is, for cheap.

One more year of being bad, maybe last year we will wind up with an early Entry Draft choice is on the horizon. KD can find someone to play with Bedard and along with at minimum the addition of Slaggert and Nazar…..we won’t be pathetic offensively. I know Hall is likely going to be missing time with injuries and Foligno another year older, but we ride with them too. Not sure whether Athansiue is returning. Sure would help is Reichel can get his game together.

- jhawk59


Don’t take my post that I do not believe KD will or will be able to acquire Laine or Necas as KD not acquiring an impact player or 2. Have read in a few articles KD is looking at a top 6, “middle 6, snd a D man that can play in the top 4. I don’t think Laine is on KD’s radar and Carolina is not a match.

How KD acquires the above wish list is beyond me. He has made moves that nobody anticipated )starting eith the Hagel trade) who knows what he has up his sleeve.
Scott1977
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Jun 16 @ 10:59 PM ET
Don’t take my post that I do not believe KD will or will be able to acquire Laine or Necas as KD not acquiring an impact player or 2. Have read in a few articles KD is looking at a top 6, “middle 6, snd a D man that can play in the top 4. I don’t think Laine is on KD’s radar and Carolina is not a match.

How KD acquires the above wish list is beyond me. He has made moves that nobody anticipated )starting eith the Hagel trade) who knows what he has up his sleeve.

- LAHawk
solid points L.A. this is just my opinion but I think he already has deals in place and is either waiting for finals to end or at the draft will pull them off. Plus most likely be a trade that nonone sees coming.
Walker pesce Roy be three defensive the Hawks should target in free agency
Forwards are little tricky DeBrusk duchene William carrier and others
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:38 PM ET
solid points L.A. this is just my opinion but I think he already has deals in place and is either waiting for finals to end or at the draft will pull them off. Plus most likely be a trade that nonone sees coming.
Walker pesce Roy be three defensive the Hawks should target in free agency
Forwards are little tricky DeBrusk duchene William carrier and others

- Scott1977



I think Davidson will be do some outside the box searching. All these name players either command a substantial return, such as Necas or are a huge risk, like Laine. The Max Domis, Bertuzzis, DeBrusks and that kind of player are obvious targets but I think KD goes in a different direction. There are prospects on other teams not on their NHL team. One example is defenceman Alexander Nikishin, a 2020 third round pick of the Hurricanes. He’s had two very productive seasons in the KHL, he’s big and he’s not in Carolina. I don’t know anything about his skating or anything like that but there are lots of other examples. It also won’t surprise me if KD takes on another bad contract to score a prospect as part of the package.

LFS
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Joined: 02.08.2021

Jun 17 @ 4:52 AM ET
For Laine not sure, if you include Johnson you better be prepared to pay, as he was a top five pick two drafts ago. Maybe 18, 50, and Allan, and that might not be enough.
- Angotti

Pass
LFS
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Jun 17 @ 4:56 AM ET
Laine’s acquisition cost is minimal, Necas will cost a First and a prospect because they do not have an NHL talent good enough to trade that Carolina would want. IMO, the Hawks end up with neither of them.
- LAHawk

I believe you are correct.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 17 @ 10:26 AM ET
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