Nylander for Karlsson would be epicly bad. It would make the Kessel trade look good.

Marner is not the reason they lost because 1) injuries they could not overcome and 2) the powerplay was abysmal.
- Aetherial

The loudest rumours I read about (in terms of Dubas getting his deals quashed by Shanny) were ..

1. Hagel and MAF for Knies, Mrazek, and 2 first rounders (a few yrs ago); and
2. Karlsson to Leafs (trade deadline 23').

If true ...I'm happy Shanny stepped in and said (frank) you.

Yup - Buzzers had 3 different jerseys when in the Metro Jr league.

White (with dark and baby)
Dark blue (with baby blue and white)
Baby blue (with dark blue and white)
…gold as a trim a bit later too
- Big23Questions

Yeah. Remember the gold. And the sheepdog mascot that the head was heavy as hell cause was partly wood. And damn did it stink. 🤣

The loudest rumours I read about (in terms of Dubas getting his deals quashed by Shanny) were ..

1. Hagel and MAF for Knies, Mrazek, and 2 first rounders (a few yrs ago); and
2. Karlsson to Leafs (trade deadline 23').

If true ...I'm happy Shanny stepped in and said (frank) you.
- The Law

Yup ditto there on that.

I'm guessing Saturday sows it up. If Edmonton wins that game, it ends on Tuesday. The Panthers are too good in goal and their defensive game is miles ahead of the Oilers. Getting in lanes and collapsing back to the net, the Oilers are forced to shoot from the side or from the blueline. A couple of Edmonton defensemen scored, mostly on deflections, late. The Oilers forwards were MIA. They couldn't crack the issues of slot presence.

Oilers looking a lot like playoff Leafs. Makes sense given their propensity to aquire ex-leafs. Average to below goaltending. Bad miscues at very inopportune times. 4 goals in 3 games. Powerplay not producing at all. Props to them for getting to the finals though.

Yeah. Remember the gold. And the sheepdog mascot that the head was heavy as hell cause was partly wood. And damn did it stink. 🤣
- Roadrunner75

Babaloo - mascots name

Oilers looking a lot like playoff Leafs. Makes sense given their propensity to aquire ex-leafs. Average to below goaltending. Bad miscues at very inopportune times. 4 goals in 3 games. Powerplay not producing at all. Props to them for getting to the finals though.
- PlatosRepucklic

Seems like every team that plays the Panthers looks like the playoff Leafs. Except Vegas.

Woot woot

Oilers looking a lot like playoff Leafs. Makes sense given their propensity to aquire ex-leafs. Average to below goaltending. Bad miscues at very inopportune times. 4 goals in 3 games. Powerplay not producing at all. Props to them for getting to the finals though.
- PlatosRepucklic

It goes to show how much better the Eastern Conference is. The Atlantic is the toughest division in hockey. We lament the Leafs losing in the conference every year, but look at the competition? Any one of the top 4 in the Atlantic and the top two in the Metro would beat the Oilers. Last year, Florida barely made it in and got to the finals. They were badly beaten up just trying to get there. This year, they're healthy and it shows. To get out of the Atlantic is a difficult up hill battle. The Leafs could get there, with a slightly better goaltending performance and a couple of good defensemen to add with their offense. The question is: What can you turn Marner into via trade? Martin Nečas is an intriguing target, if they were to deal Marner. Nečas and Carolina's first in 2025 would be a suitable exchange for both clubs. Of course, salaries will have to be worked out at both ends, to make this work.

It goes to show how much better the Eastern Conference is. The Atlantic is the toughest division in hockey. We lament the Leafs losing in the conference every year, but look at the competition? Any one of the top 4 in the Atlantic and the top two in the Metro would beat the Oilers. Last year, Florida barely made it in and got to the finals. They were badly beaten up just trying to get there. This year, they're healthy and it shows. To get out of the Atlantic is a difficult up hill battle. The Leafs could get there, with a slightly better goaltending performance and a couple of good defensemen to add with their offense. The question is: What can you turn Marner into via trade? Martin Nečas is an intriguing target, if they were to deal Marner. Nečas and Carolina's first in 2025 would be a suitable exchange for both clubs. Of course, salaries will have to be worked out at both ends, to make this work.
- PrinceLH

I'd be looking at D or G for Marner.
Vegas: Theodore+
Kings: Clarke
Preds: Saros+
Isles: Dobson or Sorokin
Columbus: Werenski

I'm sure there are plenty of other examples I'm not thinking of right now

I'd be looking at D or G for Marner.
Vegas: Theodore+
Kings: Clarke
Preds: Saros+
Isles: Dobson or Sorokin
Columbus: Werenski

I'm sure there are plenty of other examples I'm not thinking of right now
- PlatosRepucklic

Big no on Theodore. Another left shot defenseman. It has to be a righty. I'm good with Dobson, even up for Marner. It would fill the position of a right handed top pair defenseman, younger than Marner by 2 years. He's currently on a bridge deal, so you'd have to deal with him as an RFA a year from now. Sorokin is also an intriguing player, but Roy is not a fan of his and a new $8M a year deal kicks in. If you take Sorokin, then you might as well move Woll in the deal. Werenski.....not sure. A good add but another left shot defenseman. If Rielly were moveable, then sure.

It goes to show how much better the Eastern Conference is. The Atlantic is the toughest division in hockey. We lament the Leafs losing in the conference every year, but look at the competition? Any one of the top 4 in the Atlantic and the top two in the Metro would beat the Oilers. Last year, Florida barely made it in and got to the finals. They were badly beaten up just trying to get there. This year, they're healthy and it shows. To get out of the Atlantic is a difficult up hill battle. The Leafs could get there, with a slightly better goaltending performance and a couple of good defensemen to add with their offense. The question is: What can you turn Marner into via trade? Martin Nečas is an intriguing target, if they were to deal Marner. Nečas and Carolina's first in 2025 would be a suitable exchange for both clubs. Of course, salaries will have to be worked out at both ends, to make this work.
- PrinceLH

You would do Marner for Necas and the 2025 1st? I think Tulsky takes that so long as Marner's extension is reasonable. Marner would be the best offensive threat on that team.

Wouldn’t vision and autonomy be the same thing in this instance though?

Dubas: I want to be able have control if I want to to trade Marner if the opportunity presents itself.


Shanny: I have to run it through multiple people above me.
- bryant

Keeping in mind the whole conversation happens because confirmed village idiot stopped by with his daily dose of stupid.

The moron who's obsessively traded Nylander for different versions of half eaten sandwiches every single day for the last 5 years, has cherry picked the next cup winning GM as the guy he would have built this team comparable to. Imagine that.

Big no on Theodore. Another left shot defenseman. It has to be a righty. I'm good with Dobson, even up for Marner. It would fill the position of a right handed top pair defenseman, younger than Marner by 2 years. He's currently on a bridge deal, so you'd have to deal with him as an RFA a year from now. Sorokin is also an intriguing player, but Roy is not a fan of his and a new $8M a year deal kicks in. If you take Sorokin, then you might as well move Woll in the deal. Werenski.....not sure. A good add but another left shot defenseman. If Rielly were moveable, then sure.
- PrinceLH

Convinced they’ll move Sorokin?, when Varlamov is already 36? Roy’s choice may be far from permanent.

And I’m curious as to why any team would be interested in an expensive NHL goalie who got cut by a famous one.

Babaloo - mascots name
- Big23Questions

Mikey was the sheepdogs name, which then became the Maniac in Mississauga.

purple bananas' not needed


- dmnted

Looks like Audra on Y+R

I'm guessing Saturday sows it up. If Edmonton wins that game, it ends on Tuesday. The Panthers are too good in goal and their defensive game is miles ahead of the Oilers. Getting in lanes and collapsing back to the net, the Oilers are forced to shoot from the side or from the blueline. A couple of Edmonton defensemen scored, mostly on deflections, late. The Oilers forwards were MIA. They couldn't crack the issues of slot presence.
- PrinceLH

Great post! No Panther forward averaged above 45 seconds of shift time. Barkov averaged 43 seconds per shift. As expected, several Oiler elite players averaged over 1 minute per shift. Go back over multiple years, teams need 4 line depth if they want to win a Cup final.

He is NOT Jesus.

Everyone quit calling him McJesus. He is a false prophet.

Weird that I live in Florida and am rooting for a Canadian team, while most of the Canadians in here are rooting for Florida. Apparently there is no loyalty based on geography.

He is NOT Jesus.

Everyone quit calling him McJesus. He is a false prophet.

Weird that I live in Florida and am rooting for a Canadian team, while most of the Canadians in here are rooting for Florida. Apparently there is no loyalty based on geography.
- GalacticStone

(frank) no, I don't want anyone but the Leafs to win the Cup. I hate every other team. The greatest outcome in the Finals this year would be if a sinkhole opened up and swallowed both teams.

He is NOT Jesus.

Everyone quit calling him McJesus. He is a false prophet.

Weird that I live in Florida and am rooting for a Canadian team, while most of the Canadians in here are rooting for Florida. Apparently there is no loyalty based on geography.
- GalacticStone

It's the non stop trolling that turns the Canadian fans against one another. Every Canadian fanbase wants the prestige of their team breaking the 31 year curse of no Canadian team winning the Stanley Cup. If truth be known, it's the Canadian tax system that is making it hard for Canadian teams to compete. The no income tax states in the U.S. have a definite advantage when signing their players at a lower cap hit that Canadian teams can offer. It's why American and some European players are able to get around tax laws, in Canada, by having bonuses paid while residing in their country of birth. Not so good being a Canadian, as John Tavares is finding out right now.

(frank) no, I don't want anyone but the Leafs to win the Cup. I hate every other team. The greatest outcome in the Finals this year would be if a sinkhole opened up and swallowed both teams.
- gravyface

THIS THIS 1000000 TIMES THIS!

But…..if a Canadian team is going to bring the cup “home” I only want it to be the Leafs. As Dozzer mentioned if it’s any other Canadian team that fan base will be insufferable even if a Leaf fan sent a sincere congrats.

Plus the anger in Montreal/Ottawa/ Calgary/ Edmonton and Vancouver fan bases if the Leafs do it would be chocolatey deliciousness washed down with a gallon of blue Leaf Koolaid!!!!!

Keeping in mind the whole conversation happens because confirmed village idiot stopped by with his daily dose of stupid.

The moron who's obsessively traded Nylander for different versions of half eaten sandwiches every single day for the last 5 years, has cherry picked the next cup winning GM as the guy he would have built this team comparable to. Imagine that.
- joel878

This post made me spit out my coffee laughing. Lol

Great post! No Panther forward averaged above 45 seconds of shift time. Barkov averaged 43 seconds per shift. As expected, several Oiler elite players averaged over 1 minute per shift. Go back over multiple years, teams need 4 line depth if they want to win a Cup final.
- spatso

Once Florida gets their Cup, I expect that they'll start falling back ever so slightly. Players looking for big payday's, when their contracts come up, will leverage their Stanley Cup winner status and look elsewhere. Florida will still be a top 4 team, but 2 years running it back to the finals will take it's toll. It's hard to regroup, after 2 long playoff runs. Their bodies get fatigued due to short summers and winning it all will take the edge out of pushing full out the year after. A hangover of sorts.

Saw this online and had to share.

Lineup for the Leafs final game of 14-16 (they drafted Matthews that summer).

Marner still in the OHL this season also but Jesus what a hot mess of a lineup. Lol