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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
No, no, no. Now I'm team keep Goodrow. Let it fly dawg.
- blacksheep1


can't you be team stick your head in an airplane toilet and flushing it
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 17 @ 2:11 PM ET
I'm of the mindset just to let his contract run out, maybe he even becomes tradeable at some point

I think his buyout numbers are annoying beyond the 2024-25 season

- jimbro83

Completely agree. Buying out Goodrow isn’t the answer.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 17 @ 2:35 PM ET
Completely agree. Buying out Goodrow isn’t the answer.
- nyrangers9479



Drury really needs to manage the Cap for this coming season and the next. This time next year there are a bunch of important players to resign, but the real season where he can spend will be for 26-27 where in just two players, nearly $20M comes off the books (figuratively speaking if it doesn't happen sooner, of course).
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 2:38 PM ET
seems to be the only internal options i agree.

the amount of unnecessary pinches miller/fox will commit per game will make our heads explode lol

- NYRangers1124



If the Rangers trade anyone realistically, it will be Trouba.

If he really wants to break up the "Core", Trouba is the only one who can be traded, is over paid and really cant keep up.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 2:42 PM ET
I'd do 4 years for Lindgren, takes him up to age 30

honestly I'd be really surprised if Lindgren wasn't a Ranger next year

- jimbro83



At what numbers though?? I wouldnt do more than 5mil per.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 2:44 PM ET
Completely agree. Buying out Goodrow isn’t the answer.
- nyrangers9479



We know what our problem was playoff time. 5v5 play by our first line.

The Rangers might want to trade Trouba to free up some Cap space and then go after a high end RW.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:46 PM ET
Completely agree. Buying out Goodrow isn’t the answer.
- nyrangers9479

It's a solution to different problem. But the problem might be a strength for me now. Tough spot for me.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 17 @ 2:48 PM ET
At what numbers though?? I wouldnt do more than 5mil per.
- Brukie


You cannot even come close to that $$$ with Trouba still on the roster. You have a touch over $9M left in Cap right now. Over $5M for Lindgren and around $3M for Schneider (ala Miller's contract), leaves you with nothing to make improvements at RW.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jun 17 @ 2:49 PM ET
You cannot even come close to that $$$ with Trouba still on the roster. You have a touch over $9M left in Cap right now. Over $5M for Lindgren and around $3M for Schneider (ala Miller's contract), leaves you with nothing to make improvements at RW.
- mames11


Something involving a player currently on our roster not being on our roster next season has to happen. I just don't see Drury not making at least one change. His ass has gotta be on the hot seat
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:52 PM ET
Something involving a player currently on our roster not being on our roster next season has to happen. I just don't see Drury not making at least one change. His ass has gotta be on the hot seat
- picklerick

Woah...
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 17 @ 3:03 PM ET
We know what our problem was playoff time. 5v5 play by our first line.

The Rangers might want to trade Trouba to free up some Cap space and then go after a high end RW.

- Brukie

Who are some RW that we could go after though? To get one, Perrault could be part of the package going back.

Personally; I think it PLD is bought out, he’s the perfect fit for that spot. Would cost nothing, one of his strengths is driving 5v5 play, and he’s a big, physical player. Checks a lot of boxes IMO. I get guys don’t want to trade for him and give up assets, but if he’s free to sign, you’re not going to get better.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 17 @ 3:05 PM ET
Who are some RW that we could go after though? To get one, Perrault could be part of the package going back.

Personally; I think it PLD is bought out, he’s the perfect fit for that spot. Would cost nothing, one of his strengths is driving 5v5 play, and he’s a big, physical player. Checks a lot of boxes IMO. I get guys don’t want to trade for him and give up assets, but if he’s free to sign, you’re not going to get better.

- nyrangers9479

What are your thoughts on bringing in PLD?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 17 @ 3:13 PM ET
What are your thoughts on bringing in PLD?
- SkjeiStadium

Since ur asking ……….
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
What are your thoughts on bringing in PLD?
- SkjeiStadium

mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
What are your thoughts on bringing in PLD?
- SkjeiStadium



Maybe if he takes $2M or less since LAK will still be paying him.
NYR11
New York Rangers
Joined: 07.24.2021

Jun 17 @ 3:32 PM ET
Who are some RW that we could go after though? To get one, Perrault could be part of the package going back.

Personally; I think it PLD is bought out, he’s the perfect fit for that spot. Would cost nothing, one of his strengths is driving 5v5 play, and he’s a big, physical player. Checks a lot of boxes IMO. I get guys don’t want to trade for him and give up assets, but if he’s free to sign, you’re not going to get better.

- nyrangers9479


I saw a tweet saying Drury kicked the tires on Toffoli at the TDL. I think he is turning 32 this year so not that young and probably looking to cash out on his last contract. But, what are everyone's thoughts? Back to back 30+ goal seasons
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
Maybe if he takes $2M or less since LAK will still be paying him.
- mames11

I was kidding because he's brought up PLD every day for the past week or so, to the point that I believe everyone that posts on this board has had an opportunity to discuss it.

I have no interest in PLD at his current cap hit. There is no chance LA decides to trade him now and retain a meaningful amount of salary for 7 more years. There's quite literally no precedent for it.

If he gets bought out, I'd concede that it is at least worth consideration, but despite the rumors I cannot picture a world in which he is bought out. Giving up the assets that LA gave up to trade for him, signing him to an 8 year contract, and then buying him out less than a year later is a fireable offense in itself for Rob Blake. You never see GMs do that. While it may be the right move for LA (arguable), Blake would never do it because it would be accepting failure after one year. He's going to write off this year as an albatross and say they expect more next year, rinse and repeat, for better or worse
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 17 @ 3:43 PM ET
I was kidding because he's brought up PLD every day for the past week or so, to the point that I believe everyone that posts on this board has had an opportunity to discuss it.

I have no interest in PLD at his current cap hit. There is no chance LA decides to trade him now and retain a meaningful amount of salary for 7 more years. There's quite literally no precedent for it.

If he gets bought out, I'd concede that it is at least worth consideration, but despite the rumors I cannot picture a world in which he is bought out. Giving up the assets that LA gave up to trade for him, signing him to an 8 year contract, and then buying him out less than a year later is a fireable offense in itself for Rob Blake. You never see GMs do that. While it may be the right move for LA (arguable), Blake would never do it because it would be accepting failure after one year. He's going to write off this year as an albatross and say they expect more next year, rinse and repeat, for better or worse

- SkjeiStadium



Yeah...I wouldn't trade for him either...no way. That contract is horrific in Trouba way. A buyout would hit dead cap for 14 years...hhahahahaha...not happening.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
I saw a tweet saying Drury kicked the tires on Toffoli at the TDL. I think he is turning 32 this year so not that young and probably looking to cash out on his last contract. But, what are everyone's thoughts? Back to back 30+ goal seasons
- NYR11


He is a slow shoot first winger. Cannot drive play enough 5v5. Good player not the right fit for this team. Ehlers, domi I like
NYR11
New York Rangers
Joined: 07.24.2021

Jun 17 @ 4:35 PM ET
He is a slow shoot first winger. Cannot drive play enough 5v5. Good player not the right fit for this team. Ehlers, domi I like
- nyrangers2


I get that he is not the fastest, but I do like a shoot first winger for that first line. I also don't understand the love for Domi. Maybe I haven't watched him enough, but he's played for 7 teams in 9 years, has scored over 20 goals ONCE in '18-'19, and eclipsed more than 50 points once in that same time frame. Is this really the person we want as our first line winger? I feel like he would drive us insane
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:22 PM ET
What is the cap implications if Trouba is bought out?

I also feel trading Chytil should be explored if they can find a dance partner. The likely hood of him playing his contract out is problematic.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 17 @ 7:06 PM ET
What is the cap implications if Trouba is bought out?

I also feel trading Chytil should be explored if they can find a dance partner. The likely hood of him playing his contract out is problematic.

- OLDSCHOOL#6

Per Cap Friendly:
A Jacob Trouba buyout spans 4 years, has a cost of $8,000,000 and savings of $4,000,000. Trouba is 30 years of age at the time of the buyout; therefore, the buyout ratio is 2/3. With $12,000,000 in salary remaining, the cost is $8,000,000, and the savings are $4,000,000.

Cap hit is $4mil this year and next, so a cap savings of $4 mil for each of the next two years. Then a $2 mil cap hit for 26-27 and 27-28.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 17 @ 7:10 PM ET
Just got out of the clink!

I’m not sure they buy out Goodrow YET. They really don’t need him off the books just yet, but next year is a whole different story.

They are in a tough spot with “core change” because the way to do it is to unload the guys who bring that playoff style of game we lacked as it is. Ie-Trouba, Goodrow. So then what? More questions will arise about their ability to up their style to fit in the playoffs. They’ll need to trust Cuylle and Rempe more to bring that style and play them more, Lavy for whatever reason didn’t think they were ready for that just yet. But that is what needs to happen before they start to dump the size and toughness because then we really won’t have any of that. Also, Edstrom playing a regular shift in the event of goodrow being gone would be helpful in this regard. A Cuylle Edstrom Rempe line would be quite imposing for teams

Besides Kakko, if there is one player I’d trade it’s probably Miller. So many things about him this year regressed. One is his offense, he needs to be more of a threat offensively and he barely showed any of it in the playoffs. And the other, and more irritating, is how soft he is. He’s huge man and he never uses his size. He stick checks and is just generally very weak in front of the net. Idk what the answer is with him, but he’s due a raise next year and I think maybe it’s best to trade him now for a more physical dman. Or package him with Kakko for a really good RW. Kylington is a guy I think could be just the same as what Miller does, but at half the price. Also I don’t like his body language and he had that mental thing this year, I’m just pretty worried about him reaching his potential over anything else. He oozes everything you want in a defenseman, but it’s like this blahness about him that he can’t seem to get over. He’s very much like Kakko in some ways
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 17 @ 7:29 PM ET
I do think the odds are high that one of Kane (the implosion in here will be epic ) or Tarasenko is signed, for one or two years. We’re a lure for both because we’re closer than most teams for a cup, and we desperately need a skilled RW until our next wave/crop of players is ready. They run it back with pretty much the same lineup and hope that’s enough. Or trade for Buch since he has one year left. Giving term on any new guys is risky with the looming big contracts ahead of them (Shesty and Laf)
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 8:12 PM ET
I do think the odds are high that one of Kane (the implosion in here will be epic ) or Tarasenko is signed, for one or two years. We’re a lure for both because we’re closer than most teams for a cup, and we desperately need a skilled RW until our next wave/crop of players is ready. They run it back with pretty much the same lineup and hope that’s enough. Or trade for Buch since he has one year left. Giving term on any new guys is risky with the looming big contracts ahead of them (Shesty and Laf)
- Slimtj100



You were in the clink, No way?? What did you do??

Kane can be a maybe but Tarasenko Forced the trade to Fla, lives lin Fla, kids are enrolled in school in Fla and will most likely win a Cup in Fla, Im pretty sure he will find a way to stay there.
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