Tim Murray I think was ontop something and then sort of collapsed because Lehner was awful.
- Sabretooth9

rochester was brutal as well when murray got canned

I think if rochester was decent his leash would have been a bit longer

he just sucked at building the bottom half of the roster, kind of like the current gm

and he was bad at drafting IMO

I mean I can easily see both Peterka and Quinn (barring health) surpassing Tage as the two highest paid forward contracts on the team.

Being mindful of that doesn’t mean that you aren’t preparing to spend money on shorter term deals.
- Swedish_Jesus

Byram is in line to earn the most of the group. Goalies are probably going to cost 7m, one way or another.

If shorter term = 1 year, I'm with you, but I don't see him spending close to the cap this year....and I don't think he would be given that budget.

He's got his horse in Zemgus
- Wetbandit1

do we get to put zemgus out of his misery if he breaks a leg?

Byram is in line to earn the most of the group. Goalies are probably going to cost 7m, one way or another.

If shorter term = 1 year, I'm with you, but I don't see him spending close to the cap this year....and I don't think he would be given that budget.
- Lunaion

25 mil and he only has to pay

krebs
bryson
stillman
joker
6k

and he does not have to pay 4 of those if he wants to walk away from them

25-26 is a different story of course with levi, peterka, quinn, byram, johnson

Ahh I was off by a year. That is a fair point. I thought they had to be resigned this summer.
- Sabretooth9

What does this mean ? It's alright he F@cked up cause it's the past. That's Brilliant

One more thing about NHL gms. It’s like the old guys convention.

Very few teams like Vegas and Tampa work the salary cap like they do in order to get the best team possible. (Panther I think didn’t as well)

Is it a scummy move? Sure. But teams don’t get fined for it and teams still trade with them.

Then the old “ hold the salary” teams - good gms should use that as an advantage.

Then Adams and tons of older gms. “Well our team needs a veteran leader to learn from”

That is such an out of date and out of touch move. It’s pathetic. Erik Johnson sucked. Okposos sucked

One day, a younger more aggressive gm will take advantage of all these old guys and win.

Tim Murray I think was ontop something and then sort of collapsed because Lehner was awful.
- Sabretooth9

Other than shootouts.. not really. We couldnt play defense if our life depended on it.

I think he's already lowering expectations by talking about saving money for the next wave of internal extensions a year from now.
- Lunaion

I understand, but that would only be concerning long term deals. There's plenty of guys who could be offered high average one years. If that's his plan, we better adjust strategy.

Glad to hear Bertuzzi is a hit. I wonder if he'd take a little less for more term.

Byram is in line to earn the most of the group. Goalies are probably going to cost 7m, one way or another.

If shorter term = 1 year, I'm with you, but I don't see him spending close to the cap this year....and I don't think he would be given that budget.
- Lunaion

Why is Byram considered to be getting a major pay raise.. hes proven nothing. Hes got the talent. Stop paying guys off of potential though. Pay them when they fvkcin produce. See Peterka.

Glad to hear Bertuzzi is a hit. I wonder if he'd take a little less for more term.
- QuinnFan

Suggested him a month ago. I've seen Toronto and him are interested in getting a deal done though since then. Doubt he comes here.

Glad to hear Bertuzzi is a hit. I wonder if he'd take a little less for more term.
- QuinnFan

Has Adams done anything to change that NO to a YES for him to do that ?

Why is Byram considered to be getting a major pay raise.. hes proven nothing. Hes got the talent. Stop paying guys off of potential though. Pay them when they fvkcin produce. See Peterka.
- DirtyDan

Yes, tell Adams that

25 mil and he only has to pay

krebs
bryson
stillman
joker
6k

and he does not have to pay 4 of those if he wants to walk away from them

25-26 is a different story of course with levi, peterka, quinn, byram, johnson
- homiedclown

I'm talking about next years impact on their moves this summer.

When you plan for that + fill out the roster spots this reason, there's a lot less effective money than it sounds like. Like Hank said, read between the lines of his interview.

Their timing sucks. Last year was easy to find great 1-2 year deals, and they made the insane decision to pass and overpay their own guys. It doesn't feel like those deals will be there this year, with the extra cap. They will also have a tougher time adding a 2nd or 3rd year.

Why is Byram considered to be getting a major pay raise.. hes proven nothing. Hes got the talent. Stop paying guys off of potential though. Pay them when they fvkcin produce. See Peterka.
- DirtyDan

And his QO is 4.6mill, so he's getting some money.

What does this mean ? It's alright he F@cked up cause it's the past. That's Brilliant
- Buff36

I thought that Quinn and JJ needed to be resigned this summer and their ELCs expired.

I was wrong

I'm talking about next years impact on their moves this summer.

When you plan for that + fill out the roster spots this reason, there's a lot less effective money than it sounds like. Like Hank said, read between the lines of his interview.

Their timing sucks. Last year was easy to find great 1-2 year deals, and they made the insane decision to pass and overpay their own guys. It doesn't feel like those deals will be there this year, with the extra cap. They will also have a tougher time adding a 2nd or 3rd year.
- Lunaion

🎯

Suggested him a month ago. I've seen Toronto and him are interested in getting a deal done though since then. Doubt he comes here.
- DirtyDan

I think I remember that. He's a good call, but doubtful as you say. Toronto's problem there is the cap space though. Unless they actually move Marner, which honestly I doubt, they simply don't have the money. Looking at their CapFriendly (while we still have access ), they have 18M to sign 2 goalies, at least 5 D and 5 forwards. Even with some ELC replacements like Cowan or Quillan, that's an awfully low average contract for 12 guys.

I'm talking about next years impact on their moves this summer.

When you plan for that + fill out the roster spots this reason, there's a lot less effective money than it sounds like. Like Hank said, read between the lines of his interview.

Their timing sucks. Last year was easy to find great 1-2 year deals, and they made the insane decision to pass and overpay their own guys. It doesn't feel like those deals will be there this year, with the extra cap. They will also have a tougher time adding a 2nd or 3rd year.
- Lunaion

Really could have helped himself out to

rochester was brutal as well when murray got canned

I think if rochester was decent his leash would have been a bit longer

he just sucked at building the bottom half of the roster, kind of like the current gm

and he was bad at drafting IMO
- homiedclown

Trades wise though. He built a good team. But like you said. Lacked depth. Which is sad when you have Eichel and oreilly at 1C and 2C and have Reinhart.

Roch was empty because he traded them all away for Kane orielly and Lehner.

Why is Byram considered to be getting a major pay raise.. hes proven nothing. Hes got the talent. Stop paying guys off of potential though. Pay them when they fvkcin produce. See Peterka.
- DirtyDan

I think he goes from 4 to 6 mill

I understand, but that would only be concerning long term deals. There's plenty of guys who could be offered high average one years. If that's his plan, we better adjust strategy.
- QuinnFan

I'm getting the sense that the wave of good players taking one year deals to wait on the cap to go up is going to be way down this summer. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Has Adams done anything to change that NO to a YES for him to do that ?
- Buff36

Hiring Lindy I think may bring a little more credibility to us. I think our biggest pull though is that he's a Sudbury boy and we're closer to home.

I'm talking about next years impact on their moves this summer.

When you plan for that + fill out the roster spots this reason, there's a lot less effective money than it sounds like. Like Hank said, read between the lines of his interview.

Their timing sucks. Last year was easy to find great 1-2 year deals, and they made the insane decision to pass and overpay their own guys. It doesn't feel like those deals will be there this year, with the extra cap. They will also have a tougher time adding a 2nd or 3rd year.
- Lunaion

this is another reason why all the promotions from within are a bad thing

team has a losing track record and everyone is falling in line with an inexperienced gm with no balls

And his QO is 4.6mill, so he's getting some money.
- Buff36

That's a very modest increase. He makes 3.85 currently... I don't see where people are getting 7-8 million from. Maybe if he goes off this year.

I think he goes from 4 to 6 mill
- Sabretooth9

I'd like to see a little more production and a little better D-zone play.