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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:28 AM ET
E-EK would be great. However he plays a with Kaprisov and Boldy... two premium players. He would fit in great with the Sabres top 6 no doubt.

I just wouldn't rape the existing roster to acquire him by overpaying as was suggested with Cozens++. Use Prospects and Picks.. if not, move along

- IonSabres


That is the point.

They are not trading him unless it's an overpay, and that would be Cozens from Buffalo.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 19 @ 10:30 AM ET
That is the point.

They are not trading him unless it's an overpay, and that would be Cozens from Buffalo.

- kingcong39


If they give us Ek they can fit Skinner.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Jun 19 @ 10:32 AM ET
One guys a bottom line player another is a top 9 maybe top 6. They play opposite sides. Shouldn't even be compared.
- DirtyDan

Hartman is a bottom 6 guy imo
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 19 @ 10:33 AM ET
Hartman is a bottom 6 guy imo
- Jet Jaguar BD


Meet ya at the middle six

45 pt player. Would be low on my list to acquire tho.
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Jun 19 @ 10:34 AM ET
Meet ya at the middle six
- DirtyDan

Him and Bennett are top-end bottom 6 guys in my book. They are what some people think Girgensons is. I wouldn’t play either of them on my 2nd line.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 19 @ 10:37 AM ET
Him and Bennett are top-end bottom 6 guys in my book. They are what some people think Girgensons is. I wouldn’t play either of them on my 2nd line.
- Jet Jaguar BD


Bennet plays line 2 for a Cup team though...

Hartman yeah ideally your RW3 but he can move up if need be. Had 67 pts a couple years ago. Doubt he does that again but he did do it.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 19 @ 10:45 AM ET
Look at it from the other team's perspective.

What would be a reason they'd want to trade Eriksson Ek?

They'd want to get a younger Center with upside who is already locked in a long term deal, ideally.

They'd want Cozens plus, because he's not proven yet and a bigger cap hit.

Remember, they're a team consistently trying to make the playoffs.

They're not a tanking team.

- kingcong39


Doesn't mean you give them their ask..
It obviously has to make complete sense for the Sabres. I would say Cozens as a trade asset doesn't.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jun 19 @ 10:46 AM ET
Their GM and management does not run the team with a quick reset mentality.

It's why a trade of Eriksson Ek to Buffalo doesn't make sense.

- kingcong39


Fair enough then. In all honesty I didn't know that about Minnie. They have enough pieces to make the playoffs there, but won't go far. I would think they'd be more open to a retool, but if not, scratch every player on their team off the list. Any similar team should be too. As I'm sure you agree, we don't need fit swaps, we need to get better.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:47 AM ET
Doesn't mean you give them their ask..
It obviously has to make complete sense for the Sabres. I would say Cozens as a trade asset doesn't.

- IonSabres


Totally agree.

It's why Savoie and the 11th overall wouldn't be what Minnesota is looking for.

It's why I like the idea of a Buchnevich and Hayes big trade to Buffalo.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 10:47 AM ET
Fair enough then. In all honesty I didn't know that about Minnie. They have enough pieces to make the playoffs there, but won't go far. I would think they'd be more open to a retool, but if not, scratch every player on their team off the list. Any similar team should be too. As I'm sure you agree, we don't need fit swaps, we need to get better.
- QuinnFan


Buchnevich and Hayes from St. Louis to Buffalo for...?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 19 @ 10:49 AM ET
Buchnevich and Hayes from St. Louis to Buffalo for...?
- kingcong39


A 2nd
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 19 @ 10:52 AM ET
Buchnevich and Hayes from St. Louis to Buffalo for...?
- kingcong39



DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 19 @ 10:54 AM ET
Talk about big man plays small. Kevin Hayes is doug sh!t
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jun 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
Buchnevich and Hayes from St. Louis to Buffalo for...?
- kingcong39


I'm losing excitement for Buchy. He's a good player but I'm scared of the contract. I'd almost rather pay less and acquire him without the extension, so if we fall short again we can sell him at the TDL to recoup. I wouldn't mind centering that trade around one of the big forward prospects, but I was balking at one + 11OA, which may be what is requested. If we're getting Hayes too, as a stop gap center, then fair enough but Savoie + 11OA would be the big chips I'd be willing to offer there. Can add in Neuchev, Krebs, or some other lesser parts, but those should be the bones of the deal IMO.
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jun 19 @ 10:56 AM ET
Why is Paul Hamilton allowed on the radio?

Listening to this mornings show on the cup final look back segment and he actually said it wasn't the hasek show that playoffs because Dixon ward scored 7 goals that year

Guess the .939 sv% wasn't that important
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 19 @ 10:59 AM ET
That is the point.

They are not trading him unless it's an overpay, and that would be Cozens from Buffalo.

- kingcong39


K.
Like I said, moving along.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 19 @ 11:01 AM ET
Him and Bennett are top-end bottom 6 guys in my book. They are what some people think Girgensons is. I wouldn’t play either of them on my 2nd line.
- Jet Jaguar BD


Girgensons “top end bottom 6”

😂

No, he’s bottom end 4th line
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
Totally agree.

It's why Savoie and the 11th overall wouldn't be what Minnesota is looking for.

It's why I like the idea of a Buchnevich and Hayes big trade to Buffalo.

- kingcong39


The banter is 👍
I think Rossi makes sense if Miinie is truly interested, and Johnson (+) going back seems reasonable. Unless they want Ostlund to team up with Ohgren... They were dynamic together
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
That is the point.

They are not trading him unless it's an overpay, and that would be Cozens from Buffalo.

- kingcong39


How often does a player get traded and the return is about a 1st, prospect and “roster player”

Eriksson-Ek will get a good return no doubt but it’s not going to be this crazy insane value. It never is.

If it’s two 1s and A prospect so be it.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
Unless Eriksson Ek is forcing his way out, I'm guessing the ask starts with Cozens and the 11th overall, and add from there.
- kingcong39


Cozens wouldn't save them any money - if they're trading EE it would ostensibly be to save cash while getting similar production. I actually think Savoie would be more valuable than Cozens in this particular situation
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:14 AM ET
The banter is 👍
I think Rossi makes sense if Miinie is truly interested, and Johnson (+) going back seems reasonable. Unless they want Ostlund to team up with Ohgren... They were dynamic together

- IonSabres


Hartman makes the most sense, with a little Foligno thrown in, with Rossi being a cost controlled Center for them while navigating their massive dead cap this coming season.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:15 AM ET
Reading the Philly blog.

“John Tortorella is an organizational cancer, the sooner he's gone, the better.”


They don’t see Torts lasting this season.

Another spot where he’s quickly worn out his welcome.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:15 AM ET
Cozens wouldn't save them any money - if they're trading EE it would ostensibly be to save cash while getting similar production. I actually think Savoie would be more valuable than Cozens in this particular situation
- Hank Balling


Unless they'd be making a corresponding additional move, I don't agree.

Savoie doesn't help them make the playoffs the upcoming season, and that's their consistent year to year goal.

They'd have a massive hole to fill with Eriksson Ek leaving and Savoie being the roster player returned.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:16 AM ET
Cozens wouldn't save them any money - if they're trading EE it would ostensibly be to save cash while getting similar production. I actually think Savoie would be more valuable than Cozens in this particular situation
- Hank Balling


Savoie would be similar production for the upcoming season to Eriksson Ek?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 19 @ 11:18 AM ET
Savoie would be similar production for the upcoming season to Eriksson Ek?
- kingcong39


I have no idea but that would be the thought process if they were to move him imo
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