JJP?
- IonSabres

oops


I guess no mantha and bury benson on the third line


my bad

That term is the going rate, and the $5M AAV is the Buffatax.
- kingcong39

Signing guys like domi over using kulich/savioe would really show the Sabres are serious about winning finally.

I like the thought

If he gets bought out, he would only need to sign for ~$3.5m to break even.. on average over the next several years .. or get like 3x$5.
He gets to choose he destination

Is there a really difference if the Sabres held $4m given his full NMC that he controls who he waives for?
- IonSabres

I was thinking about that when all the rumors started a few days ago. The way a buyout is structured is somewhat comparable to a 50% retain. Thinking a little less, maybe 40-45%. Has some advantages and disadvantages. If you're an internal cap team, it mitigates the disadvantages pretty well.

I can easily see Terry preferring it to giving up assets to move him. He'd write him a 2.5m check this year instead of a 10m. Sounds a lot like RoR.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that they'll get a second buyout window if anyone files for arbitration. I would think Joker would file. Never easy to guess how those things play out. They may want someone to. Buys some time to let the trade market and UFA to play out.

I think the biggest part of our goalie issues was our team d and pk

the quality of shots our goalies faced was beyond bad

crouse, colton, trouba helps our 5 on 5 and pk D a lot

6k was top 10 in GAA with bad d, so I expect an uptick if you improve the d as that plays a big part in how your goalie plays

crawford was decent for the hawks when they won cups and blah when they were blah and this example can be used for 85 percent of goalies during their nhl careers
- homiedclown

you taint wrong, im just not sold on UPL just yet... and Levi for what its worth.

I just want to make the PLAYOFFS, I dont care f they get Duncan from the geico commercials to play net, just make the F'N playoffs....

I was thinking about that when all the rumors started a few days ago. The way a buyout is structured is somewhat comparable to a 50% retain. Thinking a little less, maybe 40-45%. Has some advantages and disadvantages. If you're an internal cap team, it mitigates the disadvantages pretty well.

I can easily see Terry preferring it to giving up assets to move him. He'd write him a 2.5m check this year instead of a 10m. Sounds a lot like RoR.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that they'll get a second buyout window if anyone files for arbitration. I would think Joker would file. Never easy to guess how those things play out. They may want someone to. Buys some time to let the trade market and UFA to play out.
- Lunaion

Good Post

This is the last year of a centralized NHL draft. It will be run more like the NFL draft going forward thank God.
- ImThatGuy

i don't understand, from a fan perspective, why people love or even care about this so much

I think the biggest part of our goalie issues was our team d and pk

the quality of shots our goalies faced was beyond bad

crouse, colton, trouba helps our 5 on 5 and pk D a lot

6k was top 10 in GAA with bad d, so I expect an uptick if you improve the d as that plays a big part in how your goalie plays

crawford was decent for the hawks when they won cups and blah when they were blah and this example can be used for 85 percent of goalies during their nhl careers
- homiedclown

Maybe trouba for skinner?

Both guys are trade/ buy out candidates

Would need both to agree and waive though

$8 million is a bit pricey for our d budget, even with 2 million retained . He would add some grit and leadership

https://www.dailyfaceoff....nhl-trade-market-heats-up

Sabres about to Pay upl some big bucks

Levi’s gonna cost decent money soon as well.

Best young tandem in the league possibly

Levi wouldn’t be happy with another year in the ahl imo
- Boss34

Dustin Wolf is RFA this summer. Levi's agent is paying close attention.

Goaltending might cost them 7m a year from now. If Levi plays well, possibly more.

Hope they are good this year. Definitely nervous about them.

Maybe trouba for skinner?

Both guys are trade/ buy out candidates

Would need both to agree and waive though

$8 million is a bit pricey for our d budget, even with 2 million retained . He would add some grit and leadership
- Boss34

But Pegula would actually only be paying 4mill in Actual Salary. He drops to 6mill in Actual money the last 2 years.

i don't understand, from a fan perspective, why people love or even care about this so much
- TheSabresTaco

I’m so tired of every team getting up to the stage with 59 people and all of their children and thanking the city and fans and the draft part and blah blah blah.

Just get on with the picks.

Dustin Wolf is RFA this summer. Levi's agent is paying close attention.

Goaltending might cost them 7m a year from now. If Levi plays well, possibly more.

Hope they are good this year. Definitely nervous about them.
- Lunaion

7m for two reliable guys is good value.

Toffoli
Iafallo

That’s what we will get

I’m so tired of every team getting up to the stage with 59 people and all of their children and thanking the city and fans and the draft part and blah blah blah.

Just get on with the picks.
- ImThatGuy

i get that. doesnt bother me personally that much but i can see that being annoying. first round of the nfl still takes a long ass time and its just the players walking to the stage. (frank), not even all of them are there.

if they could cut the draft to 2-2.5 hours that would be awesome.

7m for two reliable guys is good value.
- TheSabresTaco

It's not bad, if they are 2 reliable guys. Just something they need to fit in the budget.

Dustin Wolf is RFA this summer. Levi's agent is paying close attention.

Goaltending might cost them 7m a year from now. If Levi plays well, possibly more.

Hope they are good this year. Definitely nervous about them.
- Lunaion

I’m trying to be optimistic in regards to goaltending and defense.

Both seem set imo .

Joker trade aside, maybe add 1 more guy?

Power dahlin
Byram Samuelson
Rj/ joker/ Clifton

Bryson lol

But Pegula would actually only be paying 4mill in Actual Salary. He drops to 6mill in Actual money the last 2 years.
- Buff36

Just seems like too much $ allotted to 1 position on the team.

Seems like a lot already being allocated to defense

It's not bad, if they are 2 reliable guys. Just something they need to fit in the budget.
- Lunaion

Lots of upside at the goaltending position

Definitely not sold on upl being the sure #1 guy.
I see a short term deal/ hot hand goaltending this season with upl starting until…….

I’m trying to be optimistic in regards to goaltending and defense.

Both seem set imo .

Joker trade aside, maybe add 1 more guy?

Power dahlin
Byram Samuelson
Rj/ joker/ Clifton

Bryson lol
- Boss34

Can't remember the last time Sabres goaltending went as planned. One guy playing poorly or an injury causes chaos.

Lot of smoke on Johnson getting moved. Just bringing back last seasons D would be unacceptable, imo. Also worried about their depth, with some injury prone guys in that group.

oops


I guess no mantha and bury benson on the third line


my bad
- homiedclown

But he's 19 now!!!

2024 second round pick krebs and rosen to utah for crouse and bjugstad

joker and a 5th to the rangers for trouba and rangers retain 2 mil

skinner, bryson and the 2025 2nd round pick to the hawks for some crap prospect

kulich and a 3rd to colorado for colton

sign mantha, giordano, josh brown


benson-tage-tuch
crouse-cozens-quinn
savoie-colton-mantha
greenway-bjugstad-rousek

big murr


power-dahlin
byram-trouba
samuelsson-clifton

giordano, brown

6k
levi


it's a playoff roster, prove me wrong
- homiedclown

Benson on your 1st line. Good man

Peterka hurt?

nvm lol Ion got to it

Lots of upside at the goaltending position

Definitely not sold on upl being the sure #1 guy.
I see a short term deal/ hot hand goaltending this season with upl starting until…….
- Boss34

That's what I'd do as well. Term on UPL's deal will tell us a lot about what they are thinking.

I don't think UPL and Levi will co-exist well. UPL's expecting #1 and Levi is not going to be happy for long as #2. Might not be a problem this year, but a concern further out.

Lots of upside at the goaltending position

Definitely not sold on upl being the sure #1 guy.
I see a short term deal/ hot hand goaltending this season with upl starting until…….
- Boss34

Still banking on the anointed phenom, or more so hoping after last season?

That's what I'd do as well. Term on UPL's deal will tell us a lot about what they are thinking.

I don't think UPL and Levi will co-exist well. UPL's expecting #1 and Levi is not going to be happy for long as #2. Might not be a problem this year, but a concern further out.
- Lunaion

Makes sense what you outlined about Levi's mentality considering the pandering they had to do to get him to sign his ELC.