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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:23 PM ET
Can someone tell me if Edmonton or Florida is the slow team because I need someone to justify which team sucks and isn't fast
- TheSabresTaco


It changes based on the desired narratives
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:25 PM ET
Cernak keeps Samuelsson down to bottom pair, doubt Adams has those balls needed
- homiedclown


or, Or, OR

-Make that Trade
-trade Samuelson, Quinn, 11-OA for Brady Tkachuk
-sign Patrick F'g Kane
-trade Rosen and Rousek for JG Pageau
-sign Trenin

Tkachuk Tage Kane
JJP Cozens Tuch
Benson Pageau Savoie
Jeannot Trenin Greenway

Power Dahlin
Byram Cernak
Johnson Cliffy

UPL
Levi

GD! CU in the Final's
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:28 PM ET
or, Or, OR

-Make that Trade
-trade Samuelson, Quinn, 11-OA for Brady Tkachuk
-sign Patrick F'g Kane
-trade Rosen and Rousek for JG Pageau
-sign Trenin

Tkachuk Tage Kane
JJP Cozens Tuch
Benson Pageau Savoie
Jeannot Trenin Greenway

Power Dahlin
Byram Cernak
Johnson Cliffy

UPL
Levi

GD! CU in the Final's

- IonSabres


And put the C on ....who would you select.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:28 PM ET
or, Or, OR

-Make that Trade
-trade Samuelson, Quinn, 11-OA for Brady Tkachuk
-sign Patrick F'g Kane
-trade Rosen and Rousek for JG Pageau
-sign Trenin

Tkachuk Tage Kane
JJP Cozens Tuch
Benson Pageau Savoie
Jeannot Trenin Greenway

Power Dahlin
Bryam Cernak
Johnson Cliffy

UPL
Levi

GD! CU in the Final's

- IonSabres


I like the way you think, but....

- Tkachuk isn't available, and certainly not to a division rival. If he were, it would cost more than that (and I'd be fine paying it)
- You could probably get Pageau for less than that


what is the other trade referenced? I did some back reading but apparently not enough. Are there any rumors or people just tossing around ideas?

In other news.... my pool just hit 90. Buffalo is going to be the new Phoenix in another decade.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 22 @ 4:46 PM ET
And put the C on ....who would you select.
- IonSabres

Kane
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:50 PM ET
I like the way you think, but....

- Tkachuk isn't available, and certainly not to a division rival. If he were, it would cost more than that (and I'd be fine paying it)
- You could probably get Pageau for less than that


what is the other trade referenced? I did some back reading but apparently not enough. Are there any rumors or people just tossing around ideas?

In other news.... my pool just hit 90. Buffalo is going to be the new Phoenix in another decade.

- Slump Buster



Speculation that Jeannot and Cernak could be made available from Tampa as they need to make Cap Space for Stamkos plus others. Proposed trade idea is Joker, Krebs, Kulich, 11 -OA for those two.

I live just north of Sarasota Fl...90 degree pool is average in May here, lol. They sell Chillers for Spas down here.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:51 PM ET
Kane
- homiedclown



You and I think similarily. Was going to say it, but decided to make it a question.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:51 PM ET
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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
Speculation that Jeannot and Cernak could be made available from Tampa as they need to make Cap Space for Stamkos plus others. Proposed trade idea is Joker, Krebs, Kulich, 11 -OA for those two.

I live just north of Sarasota Fl...90 degree pool is average in May here, lol. They sell Chillers for Spas down here.

- IonSabres


Ive got a condo in Clearwater so I am very familiar with how unsatisfying a pool at those Temps could be.

I think something major gets done this week.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:59 PM ET
I like the way you think, but....

- Tkachuk isn't available, and certainly not to a division rival. If he were, it would cost more than that (and I'd be fine paying it)
- You could probably get Pageau for less than that


what is the other trade referenced? I did some back reading but apparently not enough. Are there any rumors or people just tossing around ideas?

In other news.... my pool just hit 90. Buffalo is going to be the new Phoenix in another decade.

- Slump Buster



And, players aren't available until they are.
Reallocate Rosen to his trade:
-11OA reportedly is worth a Top 6 or Top 4
-Sammy is Top 4
-Quinn is Top 6
-Rosen likely is L3
It isn't dogsh!t...more than Eichel of 3RW, Prospect, Draft Pick, swap of 2nd and 3rd's
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:02 PM ET
Stuart Skinner has more career playoff points than Jeff Skinner.

https://x.com/sellishocke.../1804347047723536389?s=46
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 5:02 PM ET
Ive got a condo in Clearwater so I am very familiar with how unsatisfying a pool at those Temps could be.

I think something major gets done this week.

- Slump Buster


Ya, reportedly that is his desire. Haven't seen him do anything close to it though.
I remain curious, yet unconvinced.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 22 @ 5:03 PM ET
Cernak Jeannot
11A Samuelsson Krebs 2025 2nd 2024 4th
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 5:04 PM ET
Stuart Skinner has more career playoff points than Jeff Skinner.

https://x.com/sellishocke.../1804347047723536389?s=46

- washedup20


That guy needs to hold out for more money....if only it was the nfl.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 5:14 PM ET
Cernak Jeannot
11A Samuelsson Krebs 2025 2nd 2024 4th

- Buff36


I would not.
Joker is their man. Take it or leave IMO.
If they don't want Joker at $2.6m then replace him with Cliffy at $3.3m
Their primary goal is to create Cap Space, they be fvcked without it.
Just need to get close on talent level - - 11OA to a team that is old and doesn't have pics to trade for players is worth alot.
F'em.


I got Sammy as trade bait elsewhere.

That is just me though.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 22 @ 5:29 PM ET
I would not.
Joker is their man. Take it or leave IMO.
If they don't want Joker at $2.6m then replace him with Cliffy at $3.3m
Their primary goal is to create Cap Space, they be fvcked without it.
Just need to get close on talent level - - 11OA to a team that is old and doesn't have pics to trade for players is worth alot.
F'em.


I got Sammy as trade bait elsewhere.

That is just me though.

- IonSabres


Will Joker really be 2.6m? If you want cap space, is he the guy you want?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 22 @ 5:58 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com...ade-target-from-avalanche
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 22 @ 6:02 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/latest-news/sabres-have-prime-trade-target-from-avalanche
- Buff36


Fits and shouldn't cost more than a 2nd.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 22 @ 6:02 PM ET
Will Joker really be 2.6m? If you want cap space, is he really the guy you want?
- Lunaion


Joker is under appreciated here. He isn't an offensive Dman.

You keep alluding to a higher contract than I'm thinking.

He's more of a defensive guy who has a good 1st pass.
His value is depressed, recently projected worth a middling draft pick, and an RFA. It is Tampa who convinces players to take less than their market value...so I wouldn't expect him to get a ton on his next deal.
With Sergachev and Heddy, getting a guy to play a safer game should be desireable. His QO is $2.6m. I don't think it goes crazy high in Tampa...$3.5m+

Their benefit is getting a guy who can play at a cost effective range and not poop the bed.
Space is important in their effort to re-sign Stamkos and fill out the roster.

If if doesn't work, OK.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 22 @ 6:10 PM ET
Fits and shouldn't cost more than a 2nd.
- Lunaion

There's plenty of players available that could help us Via Trade or FA. Biggest ? of the Offseason is can Adams get any.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 22 @ 6:17 PM ET
Joker is under appreciated here. He isn't an offensive Dman.

You keep alluding to a higher contract than I'm thinking.

He's more of a defensive guy who has a good 1st pass.
His value is depressed, recently projected worth a middling draft pick, and an RFA. It is Tampa who convinces players to take less than their market value...so I wouldn't expect him to get a ton on his next deal.
With Sergachev and Heddy, getting a guy to play a safer game should be desireable. His QO is $2.6m. I don't think it goes crazy high in Tampa...$3.5m+

Their benefit is getting a guy who can play at a cost effective range and not poop the bed.
Space is important in their effort to re-sign Stamkos and fill out the roster.

If if doesn't work, OK.

- IonSabres


Don't want to look too deeply into comps tonight, but I think he's clearly in line for more than Clifton's 3.3. Probably closer to 4m.

If Tampa is going to move Cernak, I think they want to save a lot more money than that. Not sure what's going on down there. Bringing McDonagh back was confusing.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 22 @ 6:18 PM ET
Joker is under appreciated here. He isn't an offensive Dman.

You keep alluding to a higher contract than I'm thinking.

He's more of a defensive guy who has a good 1st pass.
His value is depressed, recently projected worth a middling draft pick, and an RFA. It is Tampa who convinces players to take less than their market value...so I wouldn't expect him to get a ton on his next deal.
With Sergachev and Heddy, getting a guy to play a safer game should be desireable. His QO is $2.6m. I don't think it goes crazy high in Tampa...$3.5m+

Their benefit is getting a guy who can play at a cost effective range and not poop the bed.
Space is important in their effort to re-sign Stamkos and fill out the roster.

If if doesn't work, OK.

- IonSabres


He is underappreciated, kind of. He is a fine 4-5 defenseman when paired with the right person. The problem is the next contract - most seem to believe he is in line to get 4 per year.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 22 @ 6:20 PM ET
And, players aren't available until they are.
Reallocate Rosen to his trade:
-11OA reportedly is worth a Top 6 or Top 4
-Sammy is Top 4
-Quinn is Top 6
-Rosen likely is L3
It isn't dogsh!t...more than Eichel of 3RW, Prospect, Draft Pick, swap of 2nd and 3rd's

- IonSabres


I get what you are saying, but the only way it happens is if he forces their hand like Eichel did. The offer isn't bad at all, it would just take more than that even if they were willing to trade in the division. And this isn't an Eichel situation where the suitors are limited. They would EASILY get 10 quality offers.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 22 @ 6:23 PM ET
I get what you are saying, but the only way it happens is if he forces their hand like Eichel did. The offer isn't bad at all, it would just take more than that even if they were willing to trade in the division. And this isn't an Eichel situation where the suitors are limited. They would EASILY get 10 quality offers.
- Slump Buster

There's reports both Cernak and Jeannot are available
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 22 @ 6:24 PM ET
And put the C on ....who would you select.
- IonSabres



Dahlin.
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