Utah has no defensman signed. I wonder if you could offer something huge like Konecny and Sanheim and try to get a package of #6 and Connor Geekie. With either 6 overall or Geekie maybe you get a center you can build with.

Of Course Sanheim would have to waive his NTC but Utah might be more attractive then AZ and they could be competing faster then the Flyers.
- J35Bacher

Does an acquiring team, in Utahs position, really want to extend TK for 8 years at say 9 million per?

Would the Canadians as as seen them mentioned as well. By the time they are hopefully contending he will be on the way down and not worth his contract.

i don't understand why you continuously counter with the argument of "those trades weren't because of rebuilding" ...your idea of what they were thinking at the time doesn't change the fact they were traded, or the fact those things were, in fact, rebuilding moves.

its' really the silliest thing! you've done it multiple times.

also, i'm pretty sure the Sanheim thing involved both Hayes and assets (a long with a couple years less on term for Krug.
- Wingdestroyer

Actually it isn't my idea of why. It's what was reported and the facts of why. The impetus for all of those trades was not "hey, we're rebuilding so lets make these moves. What's silly is to pretend it's the reason why. Krug was 32 at the time. Calling that a rebuilding move is the silliest thing. You've done that multiple times.

Does an acquiring team, in Utahs position, really want to extend TK for 8 years at say 9 million per?

Would the Canadians as as seen them mentioned as well. By the time they are hopefully contending he will be on the way down and not worth his contract.
- furio16

I don't know. They might as they have a new owner and may want to make more of an immediate impact like Vegas did then continually waiting on youth like AZ was doing.

He could probably wear a letter for them. He is an All-star so you can market with him. He plays a grittyish style so fans will love him.

He can fill a lot of things for them as they enter a new home. I could see it in a way.

I don't know. They might as they have a new owner and may want to make more of an immediate impact like Vegas did then continually waiting on youth like AZ was doing.

He could probably wear a letter for them. He is an All-star so you can market with him. He plays a grittyish style so fans will love him.

He can fill a lot of things for them as they enter a new home. I could see it in a way.
- J35Bacher

Might be better options if they go the free agent route this and next year. Possibly even the trade market.

They need a star player name type acquisition in my opinion.

gauthier has character issues rather not have him
- 2Real

Says who??? No one has ever reported anything negative about his character in fact he was Asst Capt team USA

Says who??? No one has ever reported anything negative about his character in fact he was Asst Capt team USA
- hfc355

Did you not watch the draft where he said he was thrilled to be Flyers and lied to everyone?

How about his stupid comments before the NCAA Championship “there’s gonna be a lot of tears over there.” And then he proceeds to lose and be a nonfactor.

He’s acts like a kid and he has A LOT of growing up to do. I get he’s young but you don’t see many other prospects being this dumb.

Says who??? No one has ever reported anything negative about his character in fact he was Asst Capt team USA
- hfc355

He has character issues according to some because he is no longer a Flyer. Those same sources would be defending Gauthier to the death to anyone who said he had character issues, if he was still Flyers property.

Did you not watch the draft where he said he was thrilled to be Flyers and lied to everyone?

How about his stupid comments before the NCAA Championship “there’s gonna be a lot of tears over there.” And then he proceeds to lose and be a nonfactor.

He’s acts like a kid and he has A LOT of growing up to do. I get he’s young but you don’t see many other prospects being this dumb.
- hereticpride

He didn't lie to everyone at the draft. One comment as a young guy does not equate to having a lot of growing up to do. Let's be real.

If the Flyers were to retain 50% of Konecny, making him a cap hit of 2.7 about, that opens up a lot of avenues. A team like Vegas who is always going for it. Could I get Brendan Brisson.

Dallas making one last run with Benn next season. Can you get Mavrik Bourque and picks?

Toronto. Would they take a cheap year of Konecy, then if they move Marner they can extend Konecny for cheaper then whay they would pay marner? Can i get Easton Cowan?


I want the Flyers to be creative. It is painful to watch other teams look to all avenues and the future and be able to set a plan in action.
- J35Bacher

That’s a great observation. TK at half for this year and the ability to try to sign him long term is worth quite a bit on the market.

Does an acquiring team, in Utahs position, really want to extend TK for 8 years at say 9 million per?

Would the Canadians as as seen them mentioned as well. By the time they are hopefully contending he will be on the way down and not worth his contract.
- furio16

The thing is, certain teams may want a player like TK over the pick because they want the help right now. The Utah owner has said he intends to spend money unlike the coyotes ownership. He wants to try to win as quickly as possible. Utah acquiring and signing TK or another player to a big long term deal indicates they’re not going to be the same as the cheap coyotes.

Montreal has been heavily rumored to want a forward. If Demidov and Lindstrom are gone many feel they’d be interested in trading the pick.

Ottawa and Buffalo need to take the next step next year and can’t afford another bad season. Staios in Ottawa probably has a longer leash than Adams does in Buffalo. At the end of the day a GM is going to do what’s best for his team and his job security.

He didn't lie to everyone at the draft. One comment as a young guy does not equate to having a lot of growing up to do. Let's be real.
- MJL

That’s your opinion. Not fact.

He told the Flyers he wanted to be here so they picked him. He went back on that. Had he not he’d still be with the Flyers organization. Simple as that.

I have a lot of fire towards the Flyers front office/ownership but this is one of the extremely few areas where they weren’t in the wrong.

Says who??? No one has ever reported anything negative about his character in fact he was Asst Capt team USA
- hfc355

He dances the line of confidence/arrogance. I wouldn’t say that’s a major character issue. Having some swagger can be a good thing.

The thing is, certain teams may want a player like TK over the pick because they want the help right now. The Utah owner has said he intends to spend money unlike the coyotes ownership. He wants to try to win as quickly as possible. Utah acquiring and signing TK or another player to a big long term deal indicates they’re not going to be the same as the cheap coyotes.

Montreal has been heavily rumored to want a forward. If Demidov and Lindstrom are gone many feel they’d be interested in trading the pick.

Ottawa and Buffalo need to take the next step next year and can’t afford another bad season. Staios in Ottawa probably has a longer leash than Adams does in Buffalo. At the end of the day a GM is going to do what’s best for his team and his job security.
- Schmojo

Yes certain teams; ones that are close.

Look where Utah finished and where they are at. What does TK do to get them over the hump? He is a secondary piece on a contending team.

Same thing for Montreal.

Ottawas issues were goalies and coaching. Buffalo coaching and bottom 6. TK is a luxury so to speak for those teams. Not a need. They have higher priorities to me.

He dances the line of confidence/arrogance. I wouldn’t say that’s a major character issue. Having some swagger can be a good thing.
- Schmojo

His swagger crosses the line into stupidity.

Yes certain teams; ones that are close.

Look where Utah finished and where they are at. What does TK do to get them over the hump? He is a secondary piece on a contending team.

Same thing for Montreal.

Ottawas issues were goalies and coaching. Buffalo coaching and bottom 6. TK is a luxury so to speak for those teams. Not a need. They have higher priorities to me.
- furio16

Utah has over $40m of cap space. TK would not be their only move. It’s not what I would do but if an owner says you need to win now, picks don’t help you do that.

TK and #32 and 3rd rnd 2024

For

Ottawa’s # 7.


Who says no?
- landros 2

I do. What a waste of assetts

Utah has over $40m of cap space. TK would not be their only move. It’s not what I would do but if an owner says you need to win now, picks don’t help you do that.
- Schmojo

It also doesn’t mean that TK would be the/a target.

Supposedly Marco Rossi is up for sale with Minny. Kind of hoping Briere can pry Rossi or Pinto in a trade this summer. I get they need a 1C, but the center depth chart is really lacking. The Flyers need a couple of good, young centers.

No effin way! The most I would trade Ottawa is a roster player, the 32nd pick and either a prospect or their 2nd round pick for the 7th pick. TK is being extended as he should be.
- jd250

wrong

He's not that good, bookmark it.
- jd250

wrong again

TK's trade value is not going to be as high as it could be because he needs to be extended, and for any team other than the Flyers, TK would ask for a max deal with probably a full NMC and no home town discount. I think a player like Frost or Farabee would be more intriguing to a team like Ottawa.
- jd250

Wrong again....he isn't giving the Flyers a discount in years or dollar value, no home town discount.


you are delusional.

His swagger crosses the line into stupidity.
- Tomahawk

I agree but he’s 20 years old. He could still mature quite a bit, or not.

I’m not convinced he’d have survived in this city anyway. The situation just makes it seem like he’s a sensitive kid and the first struggles he had where he faced some boos or bad press and he’d crumble. Being in Anaheim is good for him because there’s a lot fewer eyes on you and the media is nowhere the same as Philly.

It also doesn’t mean that TK would be the/a target.
- furio16

You’re right. But Di Marco tweeted they’re open to moving the pick and this is a Flyers blog so we’re talking about ways the Flyers could acquire that pick.

I honestly believe they’d be more interested in Sanheim than TK seeing their need for defense and his much better cap hit. Farabee could also be an option for them. Still young and cost controlled.

You’re right. But Di Marco tweeted they’re open to moving the pick and this is a Flyers blog so we’re talking about ways the Flyers could acquire that pick.

I honestly believe they’d be more interested in Sanheim than TK seeing their need for defense and his much better cap hit. Farabee could also be an option for them. Still young and cost controlled.
- Schmojo

Agree about Sanheim for several reasons.

The Flyers will have plenty of cap space and roster flexibiltiy after this year. You have to weigh what does TK bring to your team now and in the future versus what can you get for him in a trade. Given TK is due an extension and therefore there is not cost certainty and risk, I don't think the Flyers will get fair market value for him. I think it makes more sense to extend TK, unless his price range is stupid (i.e greater than $10M per season).
- jd250

In my opinion, TK is not a top liner on most teams. Anything over 6.5-7 million, IN MY OPINION, is an overpay for a second liner. There are certain exceptions to that, but TK is not one of them.

You were on here a few weeks ago saying anything over 9 and he should be traded, now it is over 10. 9.5 would still be a massive overpayment for what he brings. 70 games and 30 goals. That is his high average.What does he do to get that type of contract? He does nothing elite. Nothing. His shot is ok, he is not fast or big, does not really throw the body around. He doesn't really set up goals like a playmaker who is in that price range. He does get hurt every year. When he was drafted, I thought we were getting the next Kenny Linesman, and instead we got TK. I would not build a team around TK, as he is a complimentary piece, not the centre point.

I think you over value him by a long shot. But I don't think he should be a throw in to move up, as I do feel he woud get a first and a b prospect. The first would be low 20's at best. But to throw him in just to move up is stupid. You would be trading essentially 2 firsts plus to get not even a top 5 pick in a questionable draft. I would be more open to it if it was a blue chip prospect like a Hieskenen or the sort, but each and every prospect in this draft, including Cellebrini have a hole or 2 in their game.