I don't remember their names. Popped up on social media as things said in podcasts, and since the machine knows I like hockey it pushes this crap on me. Who knows if it's true or just guys trying to get attention ... I don't really care.

Trudeau probably sensors things like that on Canadian internet.

The single-playoff points record though rewards not dominating so you can pick up more games. It's still super impressive of course, but since so many of the all-time great teams bulldozed their way through the playoffs, it essentially capped how many points the players could pick up. With the shorter first round and less parity, it was rare to even get to 20 games in the 80s. Also before the 80's they played fewer rounds, so nobody from before then is on any lists.
- MickV

47 points in 18 games in 1985 when Goalies purposely fall backwards to try to make a save

vs.

42 points in 23 games in 2024 where goalies are the size of semi trucks and as nimble and flexible as gold medal Olympians

That's really how you're trying to diminish McDavid's points?

lol that's a bold take.

I watched a lot of the post game stuff last night...all the interviews in the locker rooms, pressers and what not. The Oilers seem to have a lot of f'n confidence and belief right now...to a man the way they were talking and the composure was really noticeable. They have the momentum now.

In saying all of that it seems like, to me anyway, a lot of the times the cup is won on the road and usually in game 5 or 6. Its possible I'm completely out to lunch in saying that. I do know for a fact the Pens never won any of their 5 on home ice.

Yet you keep bringing up Mario when speaking on mcdavid breaking a Gretzky record
- Feds91Stammer

I brought up Mario twice. The first time to point out that even though Mario has the 2nd most points ever in a playoff run, that wasn't his most dominant playoff performance. It was the next season where he was unbelievable but only got to play 15 games (the Pens swept the last 2 rounds). The main point there was that total points isn't necessarily the best indicator of how great a playoff run was.

The second time I brought up Mario was to say McDavid is the best offensive player since Mario, and that I don't see how you can compare a modern player to anybody from Mario or Wayne's eras. There's too much that is different. McD is definitely better offensively though than anybody in the Cap era, where comparisons are much easier.

I brought up Mario twice. The first time to point out that even though Mario has the 2nd most points ever in a playoff run, that wasn't his most dominant playoff performance. It was the next season where he was unbelievable but only got to play 15 games (the Pens swept the last 2 rounds). The main point there was that total points isn't necessarily the best indicator of how great a playoff run was.

The second time I brought up Mario was to say McDavid is the best offensive player since Mario, and that I don't see how you can compare a modern player to anybody from Mario or Wayne's eras. There's too much that is different. McD is definitely better offensively though than anybody in the Cap era, where comparisons are much easier.
- MickV

Still waiting on the ex teammates btw

Holy poop is this a hilariously bad take lol
- j.boyd919

Ok so what else does he bring to the table other than extremely high level of talent? I’m not downplaying his points it’s incredible, doesn’t mean I have to like him or root for him. Much rather see Tkachuk and Barkov raise the cup. This is all.

Markstrom to the Devils for Bahl and a 1st rounder......now Jarry to the Flames so he can play in his home province? haha

EDIT: nevermind...Jarry is from BC, not Alberta....hahah

47 points in 18 games in 1985 when Goalies purposely fall backwards to try to make a save

vs.

42 points in 23 games in 2024 where goalies are the size of semi trucks and as nimble and flexible as gold medal Olympians

That's really how you're trying to diminish McDavid's points?

lol that's a bold take.
- j.boyd919

All I said was you can't really compare them due to the huge difference in number of games and the huge differences in the game itself now vs then. Yes, goalies are better now, but in the 90s it was much more physical and you could just wrestle guys or hook and slash them with no penalty. It was a very different game.

If they come back and win, then yes McDavid's playoffs this year would be on the list of greatest playoffs of all time, but it's not obvious how to compare that to what Wayne did in 84 or some of the other great playoff performances of the past. If the Oilers win McDavid likely gets to claim best playoff performance of the Cap era.

Markstrom to the Devils for Bahl and a 1st rounder......now Jarry to the Flames so he can play in his home province? haha
- MattStrat

I certainly don’t think that returns hurts what we can get for Jarry.

Perhaps a 2nd rounder?

I certainly don’t think that returns hurts what we can get for Jarry.

Perhaps a 2nd rounder?
- Brownsoldier

Do we (Dubas) really want to trade Jarry, though? I'm not convinced.

To answer your question though, I think Jarry would get at least that...maybe a 2nd and a B prospect or two. If he's perceived as a true starter by GM's then he could get more.

According to CF the Flames are retaining 1.875 mill per for the remainder of his contract as well....

Still waiting on the ex teammates btw
- Feds91Stammer

I don't remember their names (they weren't players I'd heard of), and it's not something I care enough about to try and find them. I don't care if he's a jerk or not, it doesn't matter. I'm not planning on drinking with him.

Markstrom to the Devils for Bahl and a 1st rounder......now Jarry to the Flames so he can play in his home province? haha

EDIT: nevermind...Jarry is from BC, not Alberta....hahah
- MattStrat

Pretty nice return for the Flames, especially if Bahl can keep developing and become the top four physical defenseman he looked to become.

Flames for their future starter already. (You might have known that but bet some people reading don't). It is a positive for where the trade market is for goalies.

But agree with whoever said below I don't know that they are trading Jarry right now. I sort of feel they aren't going to look for another starter level goalie until they see what they have in Blomquist. Jarry's end was bad but he still was one of the guys that carried them early. I think he gets another chance and if he's not playing well mid season and Blomquist is they'll make that switch, then try to deal Jarry in the off-season if they saw enough in Blomquist.

Some offseason news updates:

1. Markstrom traded to New Jersey with about $1.9M retained for Kevin Bahl and their 1st rounder next year (top 10 protected). Im not ultra high on Markstrom but that is pretty good value for both teams. Bahl is a LD who played all 82 games for the Devils last year opening up a hole in their roster... could they be opening the door for a Graves return > EK-5

2. Hronek resigned by Vancouver. That will likely leave the Canucks choosing between Myers and Zadorov to be re-signed for next season unless they move salary elsewhere. I think Myers will re-sign cheaper, so Zadorov will walk.

Boeser was on the trade block but had a great season, it seems unlikely that they will sign him to a big extension and he is a free agent next offseason. I could see Vancouver trading him and trying to sign Guentzel in free agency. POJ would be a good option for them to fill in Zadorovs spot. Trading Boeser would also give the Canucks a better shot at re-signing Lindholm but it seems like he may not be interested in heading back there. They will have to pay to get rid of Mikhaylek, he sucks and has a $4.75M cap hit the next two seasons. Dubas let him walk to sign that contract so not likely he is interested in taking him unless we are getting some serious value returned.

3. Ottawa apparently trying to bring in both Tanev brothers for next season. They have a big need for a RD, hence some of the speculation about Karlsson going back. I don't think Karlsson goes anywhere but Ottawa definitely has the assets the Pens would want to get back in a trade to get younger.

Its easy to forget that Chuchryn is still just 26 years old. He would be really interesting as a return in a sign and trade scenario. Could also see Josh Norris being part of that trade, big salary, big potential, big disappointment the last few seasons but young in a position of need for the Pens. Ottawa also seeking a goaltending change with Korpisalo being crap... Jarry and him switch spots?

4. Buffalo apparently considering buying out Jeff Skinner. Pretty big cap implications there but his contract was front loaded, so a cap floor team might find him worth the gamble. Over his 3 years he has a $27M cap hit and only $22M in actual salary. After this season it will be $18M of cap hit for a $12M salary. That wouldnt actually be all that hard to sell to a floor team.

Markstrom to the Devils for Bahl and a 1st rounder......now Jarry to the Flames so he can play in his home province? haha

EDIT: nevermind...Jarry is from BC, not Alberta....hahah
- MattStrat

Jarry played Jrs for the Edmonton Oil King where he was a stud, so easy to confuse.

Calgary is going to go with the two goalies they have on their roster. I think that is a really good return for them. I think Bahl could turn into a really good top 4 d man... a bit like Pettersson where he might just be coming into his own.

Now that Markstrom is off the board, Toronto is the team I am looking at. Prior to his strong play in the playoffs, I would have said Edmonton would be a good destination but unless we want to take Campbell back thats not happening.

Its fine if we come back with Jarry next year, but sometimes it is better to just move on and try something different, even if there isnt a completely obvious replacement in your face.

At the end of the day, this Markstrom trade only helps Jarry's trade value.

I don't remember their names (they weren't players I'd heard of), and it's not something I care enough about to try and find them. I don't care if he's a jerk or not, it doesn't matter. I'm not planning on drinking with him.
- MickV

It matters a great deal for my rooting interests, he’s a Richard.