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Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Jun 17 @ 10:02 PM ET
I hope they move him... "running it back" would be insane.

Also, haven't been on here in awhile- how does anyone put up with the pop-ups and ads everywhere- it's so gross and annoying.

- Liger4


Barkov, about to Captain a team to a Cup, was horrible in the playoffs for his first 9 seasons.

Missed the playoffs 5 out of 9 seasons, only scored 6 playoff goals, 21 playoff points in 26 playoff games.

Only won one series in 9 years.

Sound familiar?

And the past two years? Probably deserves the Conn Smythe more than anybody else considering how he plays at both ends of the rink.

If the Leafs surround their star players with the right support, that can happen for them too.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Jun 17 @ 10:02 PM ET
Brave browser's adblocker is one of the best, if not the best. I've never seen a single ad here.
- GalacticStone


Best browser, not even close.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 17 @ 10:10 PM ET
Barkov, about to Captain a team to a Cup, was horrible in the playoffs for his first 9 seasons.

Missed the playoffs 5 out of 9 seasons, only scored 6 playoff goals, 21 playoff points in 26 playoff games.

Only won one series in 9 years.

Sound familiar?

And the past two years? Probably deserves the Conn Smythe more than anybody else considering how he plays at both ends of the rink.

If the Leafs surround their star players with the right support, that can happen for them too.

- Rare_Jewel


you recycle your posts like you do your arguments.


Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:11 PM ET
So Chynowetth goes to the Jets bench. Vincent out with the Jackets which isnt a surprise at all.

Only question I have is do we need a change with our bench on the goalie coach still?

At this point hope Florida just ends it here tomorrow. Too much debate, speculation, and rumour. The cone of silence had been pretty impressive given its Marner, Tavares etc etc. sooner the season is over and this is sorted the better really. There really isnt going to be any way to avoid fan dissapointment at this point. Sooner can just rip the band aid off the better.

- Roadrunner75


I sincerely hope Edmonton wins at least one more. I have a friend who's a lifelong Oiler fan (so it's not like he hasn't seen them win a cup and make it to the finals before this), but he has flown out to Edmonton to experience the whole atmosphere.
He's additionally fortunate that his brother-in-law's brother-in-law (I believe that's how that works) has a box - so while he isn't giving up any room for game 6, should there be one, he is giving him a couple seats for the indoor viewing at tomorrow's game.

If there's a game 6, he's really looking forward to just being in the throng of people.

That would be pretty cool.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Jun 17 @ 10:18 PM ET
I sincerely hope Edmonton wins at least one more. I have a friend who's a lifelong Oiler fan (so it's not like he hasn't seen them win a cup and make it to the finals before this), but he has flown out to Edmonton to experience the whole atmosphere.
He's additionally fortunate that his brother-in-law's brother-in-law (I believe that's how that works) has a box - so while he isn't giving up any room for game 6, should there be one, he is giving him a couple seats for the indoor viewing at tomorrow's game.

If there's a game 6, he's really looking forward to just being in the throng of people.

That would be pretty cool.

- Monkeypunk


The Panthers are 95% likely to win and as a team, they deserve it. But as a franchise, it's a disgrace Sunrise, Florida is about to get a Cup parade.

Have to hope McDavid just becomes unstoppable and does the impossible.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 18 @ 12:12 AM ET
11-2 W

House league season
10-0-2

Suck it Fake ๐Ÿ˜€
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:02 AM ET
Marner will resign $12.5 x 8 = $100M. Because no team will give him $14.28 x 7.
Best he will get on open market is $13 x 7= $91M. If he is smart his team will see the wisdom of taking $95-$100M over 8 years to stay and win with his home town team


Tavares will have to take $6/yr or less to stay with the team

In 2019-20, the salary of big 4 took up 49.64% of the cap

In 2025-26, the salary of big 4 will take up 47.01% of the cap (assuming cap will be $92 mil).

- Turnitaround
You really want to run it back eh? They can make up 38 percent of the cap, they need to make a change !!!

im a JT fan and I would not pay him anywhere close to 6 at this point. If anyone is going to take a discount to try and win with hometown team, its him
- drexel
Agree. JT can buy a country pj's for a lifetime. He can take five years 23mill, that's an even 1 hundred mill over his time in Toronto

Also, anyone saying GMs around the NHL want to give Mitch over 11M need to give their head a shake. This is not pasta, kane, kucherov, or Rantanen. In the playoffs he's Panarin or Burakovsky level. Marner is worth nine-ten mill a year
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:13 AM ET
The Panthers are 95% likely to win and as a team, they deserve it. But as a franchise, it's a disgrace Sunrise, Florida is about to get a Cup parade.

Have to hope McDavid just becomes unstoppable and does the impossible.

- Rare_Jewel


Heard interesting comment about US broadcast networks finishing off plans changing broadcast scheduling and promotion styles. They want to focus on NHL star players rather than on traditional tv markets.

Small market Kansas City wins Superbowl with a record number of viewers. This is their starting point in working towards a regular season star centred tv package.

Hard to convince fans they should watch McDavid and Barkov square off in finals when they received so little out of market attention during the regular season. Imagine how shocking it is for some casual NHL tv fans to discover that Panarin is not on the top of anyone's MVP list.

Let's see. Watch for more Edmonton weeknd home games scheduled as afternoon and 5:00 pm (mountain time) starts.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 7:17 AM ET
11-2 W

House league season
10-0-2

Suck it Fake ๐Ÿ˜€

- mr.sir

You definitely dont have woll in net, he wouldn't last that many consecutive games.
Lol


Although, i hope this season he is able to
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 7:23 AM ET
Same and I don't want to see Marner at any number over and above what Nylander got but I know I'm likely to be dissapointed.
- Cush29

Jt just scored 65pts and almost 30goals and hes only 33, soon to he 34.
He'll be in the 4 - 6m per range imo
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 8:08 AM ET
12.5 is too much.
He should be making Willy money, especially if he expects an NMC thrown in.

Pastrnak makes 11.5 and he's better than Marner.

- Nasty_Duck


if you go by the same cap % when signed. Marner would be 12mil
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Jun 18 @ 8:22 AM ET
11-2 W

House league season
10-0-2

Suck it Fake ๐Ÿ˜€

- mr.sir


I have a daughter playing u13 HL and a son playing u15 HL - coaching both.
Girls are 9-0 so far this year including going 4-0 with a +53 run differential in the mid-season tournament. They are absolutely dominating this year.

Boys on the other hand are 0-3 and not showing a lot of promise. I'm worried it's going to be a long season for them.

Baseball season is a busy time.


Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Jun 18 @ 8:23 AM ET
You really want to run it back eh? They can make up 38 percent of the cap, they need to make a change !!!

Agree. JT can buy a country pj's for a lifetime. He can take five years 23mill, that's an even 1 hundred mill over his time in Toronto

Also, anyone saying GMs around the NHL want to give Mitch over 11M need to give their head a shake. This is not pasta, kane, kucherov, or Rantanen. In the playoffs he's Panarin or Burakovsky level. Marner is worth nine-ten mill a year

- AlfieisKing


Why are you still posting on this site, didn't you lose a bet?
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jun 18 @ 8:34 AM ET
Barkov, about to Captain a team to a Cup, was horrible in the playoffs for his first 9 seasons.

Missed the playoffs 5 out of 9 seasons, only scored 6 playoff goals, 21 playoff points in 26 playoff games.

Only won one series in 9 years.

Sound familiar?

And the past two years? Probably deserves the Conn Smythe more than anybody else considering how he plays at both ends of the rink.

If the Leafs surround their star players with the right support, that can happen for them too.

- Rare_Jewel


Hello, they canโ€™t afford support!! The core eats too much cap to bring in decent support!!
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 18 @ 8:35 AM ET
Jt just scored 65pts and almost 30goals and hes only 33, soon to he 34.
He'll be in the 4 - 6m per range imo

- Fakepartofme

You can see him slowing down year by year. I would not pay over 4M.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 18 @ 8:49 AM ET
Barkov, about to Captain a team to a Cup, was horrible in the playoffs for his first 9 seasons.

Missed the playoffs 5 out of 9 seasons, only scored 6 playoff goals, 21 playoff points in 26 playoff games.

Only won one series in 9 years.

Sound familiar?

And the past two years? Probably deserves the Conn Smythe more than anybody else considering how he plays at both ends of the rink.

If the Leafs surround their star players with the right support, that can happen for them too.

- Rare_Jewel


This core group cannot win. They've tried to surround the core with different players every year.

It does not work because IT IS THE CORE that is the problem. They are all good players but together they DON'T WIN.

How many (frank)ing times do you have to see it??
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 8:50 AM ET
This core group cannot win. They've tried to surround the core with different players every year.

It does not work because IT IS THE CORE that is the problem. They are all good players but together they DON'T WIN.

How many (frank)ing times do you have to see it??

- fifty__missions


at least 9
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 18 @ 8:58 AM ET
if you go by the same cap % when signed. Marner would be 12mil
- senstroll


So you agree that 12.5 would be too much?


senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 9:03 AM ET
So you agree that 12.5 would be too much?
- Nasty_Duck


thats not how I would word it.

I dont want the leafs to pay 12.5 or have to pay that.

I think its a fine number for a ~100 point player.

It would just be nice to feel like the Leafs didnt have to pay the absolute max on every core player. leave a little room to try and improve the rest of the team. we have seen how it works when the core gets paid top $$
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 9:16 AM ET
So you agree that 12.5 would be too much?
- Nasty_Duck

Offer him Nylander's exact contract. Not a penny more.

To paraphrase the immortal Ivan Drago, "If he walks, he walks."
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 9:30 AM ET
if you go by the same cap % when signed. Marner would be 12mil
- senstroll

An interesting tweet.

"A reminder that in 2025-26, an $11M cap hit will be roughly equivalent to what a $9.7M cap hit was from 2019 to 2023"

https://x.com/JFreshHocke...30AsJths4FVAhhQ4vhzg&s=19
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iโ€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 18 @ 9:32 AM ET
Offer him Nylander's exact contract. Not a penny more.

To paraphrase the immortal Ivan Drago, "If he walks, he walks."

- Atomic Wedgie


Heโ€™ll want more than a $600K raise for his first UFA contract. Pretty safe bet.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:33 AM ET
Offer him Nylander's exact contract. Not a penny more.

To paraphrase the immortal Ivan Drago, "If he walks, he walks."

- Atomic Wedgie

if he dies, he dies

-Dozzer
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:33 AM ET
Offer him Nylander's exact contract. Not a penny more.

To paraphrase the immortal Ivan Drago, "If he walks, he walks."

- Atomic Wedgie

They should NOT offer him the Nylander contact. The core does not win. Resigning Marner turns this team into the San Jose Sharks - a good team that cannot win. I'll say it again - how much evidence do you need to see this core cannot win?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iโ€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
An interesting tweet.

"A reminder that in 2025-26, an $11M cap hit will be roughly equivalent to what a $9.7M cap hit was from 2019 to 2023"

https://x.com/JFreshHocke...30AsJths4FVAhhQ4vhzg&s=19

- Fakepartofme


Not to mention the contract will be based on the middle of it, not the beginning.

So where will the cap be in 5 years is the question.
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