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wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:31 PM ET
If Leveshunov and Owen Power were in the same draft? Which one would you take?
- LAHawk


The right hander Lev, who right now may not be as big as Power's was coming out but clearly had a much more productive season as a college defenseman than Owen Power did.
Defenseman like Power take longer, but there is no denying bigger men this fluid have a lot more chance to develop good habits, grow into really solid defenseman at a size that makes it more difficult to play against, as in Florida's Eckblad, harder to contend with in close than Forsling or Montour....
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:34 PM ET
I guess the rules don't apply you, eh? Are you special?
- mohel



They guy flamed me with blue pill californian and I said I don't know what that means and he says, YOU do know, so....

I can PM you my phone....I talk hockey until this happens.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jun 23 @ 10:34 PM ET
Here in Canada we can have the luxury of voting for the person with the funniest name if we want to since we have enough parties. Watching American politics is watching this massive train wreck, and the ones with skin in the game don't seem to see what needs to be done. It all seems to be on the verge of becoming like democracy in India. If I was voting in the states, I would be seriously scared.
- wizardofi


And when you do, it's a great day for everyone in Canada, and therefore, the world, buddy.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:37 PM ET


How about not entering the political realm in the first place?

- mohel


How about we talk about the politics of this possible Winnipeg trade? (that I like a lot.)
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:37 PM ET
They guy flamed me with blue pill californian and I said I don't know what that means and he says, YOU do know, so....

I can PM you my phone....I talk hockey until this happens.

- wiz1901


You started this round of the political crap, which the site and 99% of posters don't want here.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:37 PM ET
They'll get better offers than a second rounder
- GPHawksfan



The Philadelphia Flyers traded forward Cutter Gauthier to the Anaheim Ducks on Monday night in exchange for defenseman Jamie Drysdale and a second-round selection in the 2025 NHL draft.



BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 23 @ 10:40 PM ET
Maybe instead of trying to put the fire out, maybe just let the fire burn itself out.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:41 PM ET
Not sure what you're asking Rico but I am asking should they draft Demidov? Who do you take at 2?
- HawkintheD


Oh, I haven't really changed at all except for dropping Parekh on my board. Sky high offensive ceiling but with the #2 sky high risk.. I'm still ok with them drafting D!ckinson, Buium, Levshunov or Lindstrom at #2 but have dropped Parekh of that list.

I have Demidov as the BPA, Buium is who I hope they pick and think they draft Levshunov. ...... But, my desire on draft day is they draft Demidov and come on that night and KD says we are nearly 100% positive he'll come over in a yr or two after talking to the kid, his agent and every resource/contact we have in Europe thinks he'll come over too.

You?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 23 @ 10:45 PM ET
Maybe instead of trying to put the fire out, maybe just let the fire burn itself out.
- BetweenTheDots


Ok.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:51 PM ET
The Jets are not just letting McGroarty walk unless they get a comparable pick, and more. Without comparing the picks #14 in 2022, to the Isle acquired #18, I see the Jets are going to need more defenseman and the thought of Murphy being the another asset that helps sell the Winnipeg fans may not be enough; I send them Kaiser, or Phillips or another prospect to soften the idea.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 10:52 PM ET
You started this round of the political crap, which the site and 99% of posters don't want here.
- mohel

agreed/done
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 23 @ 10:53 PM ET
Sooo... they say don't draft Levshunov #2 and don't draft Buium, Parekh, or Richardinson in the top five. Only two D in the top five (they apparently like Silayev better than anyone) when it is the strength at the top of the draft? Not sure they thought that through.
- Chunk

Right and that only leaves Forwards to over draft in the top 10.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 23 @ 10:56 PM ET
You started this round of the political crap, which the site and 99% of posters don't want here.
- mohel


Mo, respectfully I think you're overreacting. A few posted political content and IMO with no malice meant to anyone. And you and others are right, this isn't the place for politics unless it related to hockey but in the current climate politics will creep in every once in awhile.

It ain't like the vitriol that spilled here when the tourists charged the capital. .... Again, I agree about not talking politics here but don't think anyone meant any harm to anyone else.

Who they drafting, Mo, and who do you hope they draft?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 23 @ 10:57 PM ET
Wonder what is being offered to Columbus for #4 ?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:10 PM ET
How about we talk about the politics of this possible Winnipeg trade? (that I like a lot.)
- wiz1901


As presented the trade with WPG would be a dream for the Hawks but I don't see Peg making that trade. Why would they? Ehlers and McGroarty would bring a helluva Dman if that's what the Jets are looking for. A much better Dman than Murphy, who would be the centerpiece of what the Hawks would be sending.

Ehlers at 28 would give Bedard the skill he needs on his line immediately. McGroarty would be the prospect with size they don't have in the top 6 or in the pipeline with a size/skill toolkit to project as an NHL power forward.......Those two players would check some high priority organIzational boxes.

I'd overpay for those two players.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 23 @ 11:10 PM ET
Here in Canada we can have the luxury of voting for the person with the funniest name if we want to since we have enough parties. Watching American politics is watching this massive train wreck, and the ones with skin in the game don't seem to see what needs to be done. It all seems to be on the verge of becoming like democracy in India. If I was voting in the states, I would be seriously scared.
- wizardofi

At least in Chicago you can vote as many times as you like.
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:41 PM ET
Friday booked off from work to ensure a full day to read all the pre Draft Hype. Hoping for a fun Draft and a few trades!
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:43 PM ET
Wonder what is being offered to Columbus for #4 ?
- LAHawk


I'm pretty sure they are listening to offers, but probably won't be trading out of this spot.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:44 PM ET
The Jets are not just letting McGroarty walk unless they get a comparable pick, and more. Without comparing the picks #14 in 2022, to the Isle acquired #18, I see the Jets are going to need more defenseman and the thought of Murphy being the another asset that helps sell the Winnipeg fans may not be enough; I send them Kaiser, or Phillips or another prospect to soften the idea.
- wiz1901


There's no need to bid against ourselves. Peg (frank)ed up and didn't make McG feel like he would be an important addition to the team.

I'm definitely not giving Murphy, Reichel and 18 for him. Like Necas or anyone else my trade will be conservative and what's best for the Blackhawks. Last thing i want to do is make a trade where my addition to the team is actually a subtraction to the org.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:49 PM ET
I'm pretty sure they are listening to offers, but probably won't be trading out of this spot.
- dahawks8819


Waddle acting like a big player, he's hoping one of these GM's make a ridiculous offer since no one wants anything to do with Laine.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:53 PM ET
As presented the trade with WPG would be a dream for the Hawks but I don't see Peg making that trade. Why would they? Ehlers and McGroarty would bring a helluva Dman if that's what the Jets are looking for. A much better Dman than Murphy, who would be the centerpiece of what the Hawks would be sending.

Ehlers at 28 would give Bedard the skill he needs on his line immediately. McGroarty would be the prospect with size they don't have in the top 6 or in the pipeline with a size/skill toolkit to project as an NHL power forward.......Those two players would check some high priority organIzational boxes.

I'd overpay for those two players.

- Mr Ricochet


But then you have to pay Ehlers the following year, if there was any truth to this i have to believe KD would want a contract extension in place for Ehlers and that can't happen till FA signings start in a week.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:04 AM ET
As presented the trade with WPG would be a dream for the Hawks but I don't see Peg making that trade. Why would they? Ehlers and McGroarty would bring a helluva Dman if that's what the Jets are looking for. A much better Dman than Murphy, who would be the centerpiece of what the Hawks would be sending.

Ehlers at 28 would give Bedard the skill he needs on his line immediately. McGroarty would be the prospect with size they don't have in the top 6 or in the pipeline with a size/skill toolkit to project as an NHL power forward.......Those two players would check some high priority organIzational boxes.

I'd overpay for those two players.

- Mr Ricochet


Yes, I don't think there is something Kyle can do in this aquistion that harms the Hawks in the standings long term.
Ehlers played 82 games, but has spent the 5 seasons before in injury protocal situations.
McGroaty is smart USA NTeam guy whose played with Nazar, is schooled to play the right way and he would add size.
I just don't see it any way but win.

It is not like trading a vet , a def prospect and a draft pick kills any motion forward.



wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:06 AM ET
But then you have to pay Ehlers the following year, if there was any truth to this i have to believe KD would want a contract extension in place for Ehlers and that can't happen till FA signings start in a week.
- BetweenTheDots


I thought the same, but they CAN ask the Jets for the ability to talk to his reps and agree on a deal in principle.

I'd be happy with Rutger McGroarty and I would overpay---Ehlers doesn't up the ante much BECAUSE he will be looking for a cash in.



wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:39 AM ET
We are no where near the poverty level in India. Id be scared to if people were poopting in the streets and water was scarce. Politician is another name for self interest group and how i can build my family fortune.
- BetweenTheDots


It's the politics of India, not the economics. I don't believe I was talking about the economics, though if that is where you went, you might want to look more on the politics than the economics.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 24 @ 12:46 AM ET
There's no need to bid against ourselves. Peg (frank)ed up and didn't make McG feel like he would be an important addition to the team.

I'm definitely not giving Murphy, Reichel and 18 for him. Like Necas or anyone else my trade will be conservative and what's best for the Blackhawks. Last thing i want to do is make a trade where my addition to the team is actually a subtraction to the org.

- BetweenTheDots

Yes, and double yes!
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