roenick97
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I am wondering if a player like Oliver Bonk will be allowed to seriously contend for a spot on the roster. He wouldn’t need a big role on the team, third pair would be fine. My question is, could his skills on the power play translate to the NHL. |
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Just5
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Just5
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This is my guess
To PHI: #7, 4th round pick, Chycrun
To OTT: #12, #31, Laughton, Zamula or Andrea - Just5
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bird_dog_pa
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Location: PA Joined: 07.05.2011
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This is my guess
To PHI: #7, 4th round pick, Chycrun
To OTT: #12, #31, Laughton, Zamula or Andrea - Just5
No way in hell I do that deal. I don’t think you’re getting that much more of an impact going to 7 to warrant that trade. Chycrun isn’t the type of player the flyers need IMO. I’ve never been that impressed with his game. He would be the new scapegoat for sure. |
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roenick97
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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Farabee-Frost-Tippett
Foerster-Couturier-Michkov
Cates-Laughton-Brink
Deslauriers-Poehling-Hathaway
York-Sanheim
Seeler-Drysdale
Zamula-Ristolainen
Errson
Fedotov
Best realistic moves are Laughton and Konency. I personally would add Cates to this list.
I do wonder if Bonk could handle a third pair role, with PP time should he earn it out of camp. |
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Bob Habib
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Flash forward 15 years from now and Bill will post on this day in Flyer History:
June 23, 2024 the man who led the Flyers to six Stanley Cups was announced to be coming to Philadelphia 😁 - mikeyo27
🥰🥰🥰
Let's hope so!!
Bookmark this! Lol
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Bob Habib
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No way in hell I do that deal. I don’t think you’re getting that much more of an impact going to 7 to warrant that trade. Chycrun isn’t the type of player the flyers need IMO. I’ve never been that impressed with his game. He would be the new scapegoat for sure. - bird_dog_pa
This! I hope it's not chycrun we are targeting |
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Schmojo
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All questions that will be answered….but do you pay your RW2 72 million over 8 years? For a guy that will play 6 of those years in his 30’s? - landros 2
The team with the highest cost #2 winger is Toronto.
Nylander - $11.5m cap hit
Marner - $10.9m cap hit
The next closest team with a 2nd winger paid that high is:
New Jersey
Meier - $8.8m
Bratt - $7.875m
Dallas
Benn - $9.5m (deal expires next summer)
Robertson - $7.75m
Minnesota
Kaprizov - $9.5m
Boldy - $7m
Nearly every other team in the NHL pays their 2nd highest cost winger between $5-6.5m.
With Michkov coming over now vs 2 years from now, his ELC will expire after ‘26/27. If he’s as good as advertised he will get a massive contract that summer. If TK is re-signed, he will still have 6 years left on his deal when MM needs to be extended. Flyers will also have Tippett at $6.2m for 5 more years, Farabee will have 1yr left, and Foerster will be in need of possibly an extension after a bridge deal. Championship teams don’t put that much money on the wing. On top of this, Couturier will still have 3 years left, they will need to extend York & Drysdale, find another top 4D, a 1C, and either pay Frost as a 2C or find another 2C.
So basically MM coming over early actually means it should increase the likelihood that TK is moved. |
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Trox88
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I really want Demidov to drop to the Habs @ 5 and see what happens. Dmen and centers have more value then wingers. On Tuesday, McKenzie reveals his last prospect rankings. |
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Schmojo
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No way in hell I do that deal. I don’t think you’re getting that much more of an impact going to 7 to warrant that trade. Chycrun isn’t the type of player the flyers need IMO. I’ve never been that impressed with his game. He would be the new scapegoat for sure. - bird_dog_pa
The difference between 7 and 12 is you’re guaranteed to get a potential 1D or a high end 2C. Staying at 12 may result in drafting another possible 2nd line winger.
I agree on Chychrun though. I’m not interested in him. |
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Schmojo
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I really want Demidov to drop to the Habs @ 5 and see what happens. Dmen and centers have more value then wingers. On Tuesday, McKenzie reveals his last prospect rankings. - Trox88
I honestly want to see what MTL does if Demidov and Lindstrom are both gone before 5. Will they really take Iginla or Sennecke that high? |
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Schmojo
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I am wondering if a player like Oliver Bonk will be allowed to seriously contend for a spot on the roster. He wouldn’t need a big role on the team, third pair would be fine. My question is, could his skills on the power play translate to the NHL. - roenick97
It’s doubtful his skills translate to the PP in the NHL in the same way. I can’t think of any D in the NHL who has played that spot. Bruins once put Chara in front of the net but that was a short lived gimmick. |
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landros 2
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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The team with the highest cost #2 winger is Toronto.
Nylander - $11.5m cap hit
Marner - $10.9m cap hit
The next closest team with a 2nd winger paid that high is:
New Jersey
Meier - $8.8m
Bratt - $7.875m
Dallas
Benn - $9.5m (deal expires next summer)
Robertson - $7.75m
Minnesota
Kaprizov - $9.5m
Boldy - $7m
Nearly every other team in the NHL pays their 2nd highest cost winger between $5-6.5m.
With Michkov coming over now vs 2 years from now, his ELC will expire after ‘26/27. If he’s as good as advertised he will get a massive contract that summer. If TK is re-signed, he will still have 6 years left on his deal when MM needs to be extended. Flyers will also have Tippett at $6.2m for 5 more years, Farabee will have 1yr left, and Foerster will be in need of possibly an extension after a bridge deal. Championship teams don’t put that much money on the wing. On top of this, Couturier will still have 3 years left, they will need to extend York & Drysdale, find another top 4D, a 1C, and either pay Frost as a 2C or find another 2C.
So basically MM coming over early actually means it should increase the likelihood that TK is moved. - Schmojo
I agree. I’ll go even further. I am a fan of Konecny. But I ask the question…..if the Flyers are 3 years away from the goal of being a contender how does that fit with Konecny? I would assume his next 4 years he will give the Flyers bang for their buck, as Konecny is entering his prime years….so they get their moneys worth when his production will not really do much except maybe make the Flyers a bit better…it’s the last 5 years of an extension where by the problem starts. Will Konecny be a 9 million dollar player in 4-5 years from now as he heads into his 30’s?
Does that make sense to sign a guy ….a winger no less to that contract, to a deal that more or less will be an over pay and a anchor of a contract 4-5 years from now after his prime years have passed, when they will probably need the cap space for others that are more important to the over all team at that time? |
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mikeyo27
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The team with the highest cost #2 winger is Toronto.
Nylander - $11.5m cap hit
Marner - $10.9m cap hit
The next closest team with a 2nd winger paid that high is:
New Jersey
Meier - $8.8m
Bratt - $7.875m
Dallas
Benn - $9.5m (deal expires next summer)
Robertson - $7.75m
Minnesota
Kaprizov - $9.5m
Boldy - $7m
Nearly every other team in the NHL pays their 2nd highest cost winger between $5-6.5m.
With Michkov coming over now vs 2 years from now, his ELC will expire after ‘26/27. If he’s as good as advertised he will get a massive contract that summer. If TK is re-signed, he will still have 6 years left on his deal when MM needs to be extended. Flyers will also have Tippett at $6.2m for 5 more years, Farabee will have 1yr left, and Foerster will be in need of possibly an extension after a bridge deal. Championship teams don’t put that much money on the wing. On top of this, Couturier will still have 3 years left, they will need to extend York & Drysdale, find another top 4D, a 1C, and either pay Frost as a 2C or find another 2C.
So basically MM coming over early actually means it should increase the likelihood that TK is moved. - Schmojo
That’s way too logical. Nicely done though!
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Schmojo
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I agree. I’ll go even further. I am a fan of Konecny. But I ask the question…..if the Flyers are 3 years away from the goal of being a contender how does that fit with Konecny? I would assume his next 4 years he will give the Flyers bang for their buck, as Konecny is entering his prime years….so they get their moneys worth when his production will not really do much except maybe make the Flyers a bit better…it’s the last 5 years of an extension where by the problem starts. Will Konecny be a 9 million dollar player in 4-5 years from now as he heads into his 30’s?
Does that make sense to sign a guy ….a winger no less to that contract, to a deal that more or less will be an over pay and a anchor of a contract 4-5 years from now after his prime years have passed, when they will probably need the cap space for others that are more important to the over all team at that time? - landros 2
Exactly, he doesn’t fit the timeline. I like TK too but the Flyers aren’t going to contend during that deal. He does make sense for teams looking to improve next season like Ottawa or Buffalo and makes sense for teams that are already contenders. But not the Flyers. |
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Schmojo
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That’s way too logical. Nicely done though! - mikeyo27
Haha, thanks. I will miss capfriendly |
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Trox88
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I honestly want to see what MTL does if Demidov and Lindstrom are both gone before 5. Will they really take Iginla or Sennecke that high? - Schmojo
Sennecke is getting a lot of buzz going in the top 10. I'm not convinced CLB takes Demidov @ 4. Waddell just got publically slapped around by SKA with Alexander Nikishin when he was with Carolina.
As of now, I think it goes
1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov
3. Buium
4. Lindstrom
5. Iginla
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Yeah, I can't see them trading away talent now. - MBFlyerfan
I absolutely can. I can see a 3 way trade with Ottawa and Boston.
Ottawa - Ullmark
Boston - coots
Philly -chycrun or chabot.
Then Philly trades tk and pick 32 (with extension) to Ottawa for pick 7
Then trades laughts and pick 12 to Buffalo for pick 11
Then trades 7 and 12 or 13 to move up to 4 with Columbus and selects demidov.
Then uses whichever pick is left 12 or 13 and selects catton/helenius/eiserman
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roenick97
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I absolutely can. I can see a 3 way trade with Ottawa and Boston.
Ottawa - Ullmark
Boston - coots
Philly -chycrun or chabot.
Then Philly trades tk and pick 32 (with extension) to Ottawa for pick 7
Then trades laughts and pick 12 to Buffalo for pick 11
Then trades 7 and 12 or 13 to move up to 4 with Columbus and selects demidov.
Then uses whichever pick is left 12 or 13 and selects catton/helenius/eiserman
And go from there - Stayin alive
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mikeyo27
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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How can you see something that hasn’t happened? - roenick97
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How can you see something that hasn’t happened? - roenick97
I obviously am dreaming. |
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Just5
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No way in hell I do that deal. I don’t think you’re getting that much more of an impact going to 7 to warrant that trade. Chycrun isn’t the type of player the flyers need IMO. I’ve never been that impressed with his game. He would be the new scapegoat for sure. - bird_dog_pa
I think chycrun becomes a flyer. Too much smoke. Connection to the area. I think the flyers think they can help him with his defensive game. Prob think Seeler could partner with him and teach him some snarl. He definitely appears to be on the outs in Ottawa. I can see it happening |
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I think chycrun becomes a flyer. Too much smoke. Connection to the area. I think the flyers think they can help him with his defensive game. Prob think Seeler could partner with him and teach him some snarl. He definitely appears to be on the outs in Ottawa. I can see it happening - Just5
Ottawa… Ullmark
Boston … coots
Philly….. chycrun
All fill needs per teams |
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I think chycrun becomes a flyer. Too much smoke. Connection to the area. I think the flyers think they can help him with his defensive game. Prob think Seeler could partner with him and teach him some snarl. He definitely appears to be on the outs in Ottawa. I can see it happening - Just5
Ullmark to Ottawa = smoke
Chycrun to Philly= smoke
Coots to Boston =smoke (Boston needs defensive 1c to replace Bergy/coots new agent and benching as captain fiasco wants out |
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Ottawa want to take huge step and f them picks
Ullmark to Ottawa.
Tk to Ottawa
Chycrun out.
Something huge is brewing with Ottawa.
Possible Buffalo as they are in same spot as Ottawa.
Same for Utah.
Columbus thinks they are way better than last years showing could be player.
Devils obviously don’t need pick 10.
This year gonna be crazy week of draft.
Mm coming now means no rebuild might as well go for it as in trade as much of old flyers you can. New era of orange
Laughts
Tk
Coots
Maybe a few others
All out.
Thank god |
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