Dumb move. Calgary's PP sucked.
- Rare_Jewel

In the second half of the season, they ranked 12th, tied with the Leafs. With half of the talent.

word is they value him as a top 10 pick and want a prospect equivalent to that value.
- Symba007

If he’s decided he’s not going to sign, how they value him doesn’t matter that much. The fact that multiple teams are likely interested does matter.

it will cost you more than the 24th IMO
- Symba007

Probably. McGroarty likely is better than who we'd get at 24 - but I guess that comes down to what the scouting staff thinks is / will be available. Out of all the speculation among the various players here, I don't know who is and isn't returning, but I don't think Liljegren is coming back. The problem with him being included is that I'm not sure he's a Cheveldayoff type of defender.

Weekes: Leafs close to extension deal for Woll - 3 years @$3.5-4ish
- Canada Cup

feels like a lot for a goalie with 40 career games

Weekes: Leafs close to extension deal for Woll - 3 years @$3.5-4ish
- Canada Cup

Wtf?
Hope that number is off
He has 36 career nhl games.
He should in the 2- 2.5m per range.

Cowan and?

Hearing the price is ridiculous at the moment
- Symba007

Not sure why they would think he would be worth alot.

via GIPHY

- senstroll

I think we forget where these guys come from sometimes, what they are used to, and the fact that while still in the minors they may have a big signing bonus but make next to no money. You can go through that bonus pretty quick if you are tired of eating McDonalds.

It might be a long shot, but a lot more realistic for him than a prospect from the USA

Wtf?
Hope that number is off
He has 36 career nhl games.
He should in the 2- 2.5m per range.
- Fakepartofme

why extend now?

Leafs Nation said any prospect not named Cowan. They suggested the 1st and Lilli
- Canada Cup

My gawd, that would be horrible for a college kid.

At his age, its what all young on the verge of potential stardom althetes want.
- Fakepartofme

Once again I would suggest this comment oozes of ignorance. Their culture might be a lot different, even the individual could be different.

why extend now?
- drexel

Cause
Its the leafs

I feel like I could definitely add that leadership ability,” McGroarty explained. “I could come in and bring that compete and energy. Being a kid that’s always been a Toronto fan, I’ve always been a big fan of them. And I got a lot of friends up there so I feel like I’d be comfortable in the Toronto area.”
- mr.sir

Mmmmmm ....McGroaty, I like the way you talk dirty to me/us.

Minten, it's been nice knowing you.

Vegas needs to shed some cap

Whitecloud is a RHD
27 years old
4 x 2.75m

Lilly or Robertson?
- mr.sir

I am going to guess Lilly's cap is going to be close to that.

Weekes: Leafs close to extension deal for Woll - 3 years @$3.5-4ish
- Canada Cup

Fur realzies ?????

multiple teams are interested in him. He still has 2yrs before he can go UFA/unsigned.
- Symba007

It would cost too much, Winnipeg won't just give him away.

Tree should be targeting Scrotey McBoogerballs. I'm sold just based on the name.

Unrelated : I want to see double+ overtimes in game 7. Make the winner sweat for it and make the loss that much more crushing for the loser. Make it so.

I am going to guess Lilly's cap is going to be close to that.
- jribout

Theodore, Whitecloud and Logan Thompson for Marner and Lily?

feels like a lot for a goalie with 40 career games
- senstroll

Ya. I like the idea of being aggressive with the young "about to blossom" guys but that seems high. Although - I think that buys out 2 UFA years ...so maybe not too bad.

Weekes: Leafs close to extension deal for Woll - 3 years @$3.5-4ish
- Canada Cup

That sounds terribly high.

Woll has 38 career NHL starts, including the playoffs. 23 of those are considered quality starts (.900 save percentage or better). His QS% of 60.5% is better than the league average of 54.1%, but it's such a small sample size.

Comparably, Knight had 51 NHL starts - but he was drafted 13th overall - but signed a $4.5m x 3 year deal. Kochetkov signed a $2m x 4 year deal with 26 NHL starts (QS% of 57.7%).

Binnington and Hill had won cups. Oettinger had 77 NHL starts and had posted an solid QS% of 59.7%.

I still feel like I wouldn't be offering Woll more than a 1 year show-me deal because I don't believe he can stay healthy and I still don't know if he can handle the workload associated with a $3.5 - $4m deal.

That said the Flyers just gave Fedotov $3.275 x 2 and he has 3 NHL starts and sucked.

Probably. McGroarty likely is better than who we'd get at 24 - but I guess that comes down to what the scouting staff thinks is / will be available. Out of all the speculation among the various players here, I don't know who is and isn't returning, but I don't think Liljegren is coming back. The problem with him being included is that I'm not sure he's a Cheveldayoff type of defender.
- Monkeypunk

I think I scanned an article that said he wanted to be moved because he didn't like the way they were developing him? I was not really paying attention because I had no idea the Leafs would be in the mix, but I think he is going back to college because he thought he should be in the NHL and the Jets wanted him in the AHL (which I think is fair)

man was it windy here in toronto yesterday.
almost knocked the corn we're growing down not that we go much corn growing about 20 plants or so.
- dmnted

Heh heh I haven't heard someone call weed corn for a while.

Weekes: Leafs close to extension deal for Woll - 3 years @$3.5-4ish
- Canada Cup

Wow. This hockey team.

Theodore, Whitecloud and Logan Thompson for Marner and Lily?
- PatC80

If we are including lili, need more of a return. Imo
Id do the above for marner only.
Toss in at least a 2nd for lili.

why extend now?
- drexel

My read is that they're going to find him a cheap partner this year and expect/hope that he can be healthy and take the reins. If he has a good year he goes into next summer with 1 yr of control/arbitration and could probably demand 5+.

So they're playing the lock him up early/cheaper game.

My gawd, that would be horrible for a college kid.
- Fakepartofme

If they felt he was a sure thing and they felt that Liljegren was just not going to be a part of our future here, then it might not be a bad deal, if again, the assessment of what's available in 20-30 isn't that great.

It's a lot of guesswork, but McGroarty, by all accounts, is an NHL ready player. He's solid and has excelled at the WJC and in the NCAA. He's still a kid, but he's an excellent PP and PK option as well for his teams. I was trying to remember and couldn't so I gave it a quick Google - the guys they say he plays like are Blake Coleman or Zach Hyman.

You'd give up a 1st and Liljegren for a young Zach Hyman - if he were already at the 25yo version of himself at age 21 - similarly, peak Coleman was a guy who was capable of 25 goals. So probably worth it?

I think the question really is - how long would it take him to get to where they'd need him to be? Coleman was 26 when he became impactful; Hyman, I'd likely argue, was 25.