"Remember when is the lowest from of conversation" - Tony Soprano

What past Mistakes ?
- Buff36

Investing in Isak Rosen memorabilia. Slump paid a large sum for Rosen’s game worn visor, he may never recover those monies.

What past Mistakes ?
- Buff36

They have a glut on 4 - 6 D

I think they are solid core #1and #2 centers.

Probably between the mid 10-20 as a pair .

Last year had some injuries and cozens was just off
- Boss34

Athletic had their C rating at #21. Not quite the question I asked, but similar.


https://www.nytimes.com/a...enters-free-agency-trade/

They have a glut on 4 - 6 D
- Slump Buster

They have 4 D under contract at this point, 5 when Seider gets paid.

Seider about to get paid
- washedup20

And Raymond. And Kane's agent staying in contact.

I think they're after a big name forward. Their top 6 is lacking

And Raymond. And Kane's agent staying in contact.

I think they're after a big name forward. Their top 6 is lacking
- DirtyDan

Touché

Athletic had their C rating at #21. Not quite the question I asked, but similar.


https://www.nytimes.com/a...enters-free-agency-trade/
- Lunaion

thats about where I have them

interesting

They have 4 D under contract at this point, 5 when Seider gets paid.
- Buff36

Sorry, by "4 - 6", I was referring to quality. They have too many Jokers

thats about where I have them

interesting
- homiedclown

That article refers to all of their centers. If they were grading on that curve, it is a surprise that they aren't lower given the holes at 3C and 4C.

And Raymond. And Kane's agent staying in contact.

I think they're after a big name forward. Their top 6 is lacking
- DirtyDan

Necas

Sorry, by "4 - 6", I was referring to quality. They have too many Jokers
- Slump Buster

member when some here wanted Justin Holl

That article refers to all of their centers. If they were grading on that curve, it is a surprise that they aren't lower given the holes at 3C and 4C.
- Slump Buster

it's amazing that 12 months ago center was a position of strength for this franchise, now it's hope savoie or ostlund becomes an upper end middle 6 center

Sorry, by "4 - 6", I was referring to quality. They have too many Jokers
- Slump Buster

This is called shifting the goal posts

it's amazing that 12 months ago center was a position of strength for this franchise, now it's hope savoie or ostlund becomes an upper end middle 6 center
- homiedclown

The drafting is great, huge assets

And Raymond. And Kane's agent staying in contact.

I think they're after a big name forward. Their top 6 is lacking
- DirtyDan

Detroit is such an interesting team to look at. Many people here were shot in the rear with Yzerman's continued tweaking, but what are they? They have two or three really good players, and then a middle class made up exclusively of guys in their late 20s and early 30s. It is a fairly solid roster - I'd say high floor, low ceiling.

https://www.spotrac.com/n.../detroit-red-wings/yearly

Necas
- homiedclown

Could very well be. Kane a backup plan. They need a second line LW as well.

Could very well be. Kane a backup plan. They need a second line LW as well.
- DirtyDan

Lebrun is reporting that they are in talks with Ghost.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...-inductees-announced.html

Another slate of hockey legends has received their call to the Hall. Forwards Pavel Datsyuk, Jeremy Roenick, and defenseman Shea Weber comprise the NHL players entering this year. On the women’s side, former Team USA fixture and PWHL Minnesota general manager Natalie Darwitz has been inducted along with Team USA teammate and current Penguins amateur scout Krissy Wendell-Pohl. Longtime NHL vice president of hockey operations Colin Campbell has been inducted as a builder, as has longtime Capitals and Predators GM David Poile.

NHL all-time games played leader Patrick Marleau was eligible for induction for the first time this year but was not chosen. Meanwhile, Datsyuk and Weber gain entry on their first try, while Roenick gets in after a 12-year wait.

Datsyuk began his NHL career as a sixth-round pick of the Red Wings in 1998 out of the Russian top league. It took a while for him to come over, though, finally debuting with Detroit in his age-23 season in 2001-02. He put together a decent rookie season for the Dead Puck Era, logging 11 goals and 35 points in 70 games, finishing fourth in Calder Trophy voting before lifting the Stanley Cup as part of perhaps the best roster in NHL history. Datsyuk is the tenth player from that team to become a Hall of Famer, joining Chris Chelios, Sergei Fedorov, Dominik Hašek, Brett Hull, Igor Larionov, Nicklas Lidström, Luc Robitaille, Brendan Shanahan, and Steve Yzerman.

He went on to play 14 years in the show, all in a Red Wings uniform. Datsyuk lifted another Stanley Cup as part of the Red Wings’ championship team in 2008, a year that saw him post 97 points and a +41 rating in 82 games en route to his first of three straight Selke Trophies. He didn’t crack the 1,000-game mark, opting to return to his native Russia after the 2015-16 season, but still had 314 goals and 918 points in 953 career NHL games while arguably serving as the best defensive center of his time with some incredible breakaway/shootout moves to boot. He played five seasons in Russia’s Kontinental Hockey League after leaving Detroit, including three with top-flight side SKA St. Petersburg and two with his hometown Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg.

Datsyuk was also one of the most well-regarded and sportsmanlike players in the league, winning four Lady Byngs. He was named one of the NHL’s 100 greatest players of all time as part of the league’s centennial celebration in 2017-18.

Roenick may not have the awards résumé of a normal Hall-of-Famer, but he was still one of the league’s premier offensive talents over a career that spanned 20 seasons. The Boston native was the eighth overall pick of the Blackhawks in the 1988 draft and made his debut the following season, recording 18 points in 20 games without burning his rookie eligibility.

He arrived in full in 1989-90, posting 26 goals and 66 points in 78 games while earning himself a nomination for the Calder Trophy. That would be his last year without recording at least a point per game until 1997. Over 1,363 games with Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Phoenix and San Jose, he tallied 513 goals and 703 assists for 1,216 points while playing through one of the league’s lowest-scoring eras. On the league’s all-time list, Roenick ranks 42nd in goals, 59th in assists, 47th in points, and 54th in games played.

it's amazing that 12 months ago center was a position of strength for this franchise, now it's hope savoie or ostlund becomes an upper end middle 6 center
- homiedclown

12 months ago we were coming off the best season in 13 years. Just sayin

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/06/2024-hockey-hall-of-fame-inductees-announced.html

Another slate of hockey legends has received their call to the Hall. Forwards Pavel Datsyuk, Jeremy Roenick, and defenseman Shea Weber comprise the NHL players entering this year.

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- burner087

another snub for mogilny

12 months ago we were coming off the best season in 13 years. Just sayin
- DirtyDan

the bar is low

the bar is low
- homiedclown

Should of tweaked the lineup then. But here we are.

Could very well be. Kane a backup plan. They need a second line LW as well.
- DirtyDan

Stamkos...

another snub for mogilny
- homiedclown

Wtf did Shea Weber do to get in? Hardest shot a couple times