Iginla is likely going to end up playing wing wherever he ends up. He switched to that position this year and that’s when his numbers took off. He was largely projected as more of a mid to late 1st round prospect before that.

He was originally my choice but after hearing about the move I would stay away, nothing against him. Flyers’ need at center is just too big
- hereticpride

yeah, I thought so too, but I don’t even care. Catton is the center I’d want between the two.

Could we trade back a few spots and take Hage?
- Jkrgoflyers

I think it’s a good possibility. If the top 5 D plus Catton and Helenius are gone before 12, leaving only wingers, I could see a trade back. Pick up an extra pick or two.

Could we trade back a few spots and take Hage?
- Jkrgoflyers

Absolutely, but I wouldn’t bother. Instead, I’d take one of the names I laid out and then try to trade up from 32 and get Hage at a much lower price than trying to move into the top 10.

How about both Hage and a fallen defenseman or Sennecke?

Nice haul.

I'm fine with any of the projected top 12 players, guessing someone will go off the board and someone will fall a bit. The 2 I am not excited to draft are D!ickenson and Eiserman, im good with the rest.
- bradster

I am actually hot on both. Big swings. If Eiserman was a C I’d be all in on him as a ‘go big’ pick. I would not pick him over a Center or Yakemchuk. If he was the second pick of this draft for the Flyers (aka they acquire 11 for example without giving up 12) after taking Catton or Helenius I’d be excited. D*ckonson has top 1-2 potential. I’d be all for picking him. Sure he played on a stacked team but he was part of the core and did very well. What am I not seeing?

The stove is ice cold

I am actually hot on both. Big swings. If Eiserman was a C I’d be all in on him as a ‘go big’ pick. I would not pick him over a Center or Yakemchuk. If he was the second pick of this draft for the Flyers (aka they acquire 11 for example without giving up 12) after taking Catton or Helenius I’d be excited. D*ckonson has top 1-2 potential. I’d be all for picking him. Sure he played on a stacked team but he was part of the core and did very well. What am I not seeing?
- coffee junkie

I don’t see where Yakenchuk fits unless they then use Bonk as a trade piece to get a young center.

This has been my call all along. Only difference is they select Catton.
- Flyfly

Catton reminds me a little of Brayden Point, I hope that Flyers are lucky enough to get him at 12 or are able to move up to snag with out having to overpay.

Absolutely, but I wouldn’t bother. Instead, I’d take one of the names I laid out and then try to trade up from 32 and get Hage at a much lower price than trying to move into the top 10.

How about both Hage and a fallen defenseman or Sennecke?

Nice haul.
- Hesh_

Moving from 32 to mid teens where Hage is likely to go will cost multiple assets. Chicago traded a 2nd rd pick to move up 2 spots in the first from 20 to 18.

I am actually hot on both. Big swings. If Eiserman was a C I’d be all in on him as a ‘go big’ pick. I would not pick him over a Center or Yakemchuk. If he was the second pick of this draft for the Flyers (aka they acquire 11 for example without giving up 12) after taking Catton or Helenius I’d be excited. D*ckonson has top 1-2 potential. I’d be all for picking him. Sure he played on a stacked team but he was part of the core and did very well. What am I not seeing?
- coffee junkie

I think you’re seeing fine.

Someone we want will be available at 12.

And if you’re hot on Eiserman’s potential, great. Just like with Hage, I think you can get both by moving up from 32 and adding picks or a prospect and it wouldn’t cost way too much.

It’s reasonable to come out of this draft with both a defenseman and one of Helenius, Sennecke, Eiserman, Brandsegg-Nygaard or Greentree.

Moving from 32 to mid teens where Hage is likely to go will cost multiple assets. Chicago traded a 2nd rd pick to move up 2 spots in the first from 20 to 18.
- Schmojo

Sure, but we do have the picks if you want two bites. Many teams want to be able to move up in next years draft because its projected to have a higher ceiling (but maybe less depth). I bet the Isles would trade down again. You can pick your guy at 12 and wait out until 16, 17 and see if it’s worth your while to even consider it.

Hage, Brandsegg-Nygaard, Jiricek, Eiserman, Greentree, Beaudoin, someone will fall into that 18-20 range if not multiple.

All I’m preaching is patience at 12, but strike if an opportunity presents itself at a cheaper rate, because with this board nobody is ready to deal yet.

I am actually hot on both. Big swings. If Eiserman was a C I’d be all in on him as a ‘go big’ pick. I would not pick him over a Center or Yakemchuk. If he was the second pick of this draft for the Flyers (aka they acquire 11 for example without giving up 12) after taking Catton or Helenius I’d be excited. D*ckonson has top 1-2 potential. I’d be all for picking him. Sure he played on a stacked team but he was part of the core and did very well. What am I not seeing?
- coffee junkie

D!ckinson is a high floor, high ceiling player. Some scouts question his offensive upside, especially compared to players like Levshunov, Buium, and Parekh. Because he’s on London some will contribute his offense to the surrounding talent. Just like with Barkey on that team, some are still not convinced on him being anything more than an AHL top scorer.

Scott Wheeler’s play style comp for D!ckinson is a blend of Hanifin/Seider.

Sure, but we do have the picks if you want two bites. Many teams want to be able to move up in next years draft because its projected to have a higher ceiling (but maybe less depth). I bet the Isles would trade down again. You can pick your guy at 12 and wait out until 16, 17 and see if it’s worth your while to even consider it.
- Hesh_

I’ve heard the ‘25 draft has better depth than ‘24. The thought is you’ll get a better player in the 20’s next year than you will this year.

I’d be all in for moving up to ensure I get one of the top D this year. It’ll cost a lot but would be worth it. If they can do that while keeping 12 and come away with a D and Catton or Helenius, awesome. If they can’t do it and keep 12, then moving into the teens for Hage would be cool too. I’m fine if they hold onto Farabee and use him next summer to move up. Get your 1D and 2C this summer and then get your 1C next year.

I love guys around here who believe they’re posts are so important, to the point that they’ll post YouTube videos as a form of sarcasm, actually believe anyone would hit the play button and not realize often times, you have to get through adds and commercials just to get to your insult….

Why would you believe anyone would waste the time….?

I've seen the name pop up a few times, but not recently (though I do have to admit, I don't follow the comments closely when the clown parade is in town)...

What would it take to get Shane Wright out of Seattle and is he still regarded as an option to be a #1 C?

Would you put the #12 in play? Would you consider a deal involving Konecny (solo or as part of a package as Seattle is looking for more offense) for other prospects and/or 2025 picks?
- BaronVonShiznit

I think they view him as their future high end 2C behind Beniers as their 1C. It’s definitely worth looking into his availability though. He had a good playoff for Coachella Valley.

I love guys around here who believe they’re posts are so important, to the point that they’ll post YouTube videos as a form of sarcasm, actually believe anyone would hit the play button and not realize often times, you have to get through adds and commercials just to get to your insult….

Why would you believe anyone would waste the time….?
- roenick97

the play button doesn't have to be hit to get the point lamont. big dummy

The Demidov idea is fun to kick around, but it’ll get a little too expensive.

I also am not so sure of trying to make a center out of a wing in MM, but I’ll admit I don’t have the foggiest. Maybe he thrives. I’d rather let a specialty player go out there and do his thing. Go be, y’know, special. However I will say that as much as people wanna compare him to a future Kaprizov or Kucherov, I see more flashes of Datsyuk play style. He’s squirrelly with the puck and tough to knock off a play. Really impressive vision and reads the ice well. Great stick handling and determination with where he wants to go and incredible improv at finishing. Now that’s a center.


Still, I think the smarter move is to go actually just wait. Chill. Wait to see how the first 6 picks or so shake out and then read the room. You’ll know then if you can cheaply move up just a couple of spots and get a real center like Catton or Iginla. They’ll be much more valuable to a guy like MM. A true center. Although I do think the latter ends up a Flame.

You might get lucky and know that moving up won’t be required at all. Just wait to see if a reasonable deal can be made for a slight bump, or take Helenius instead. I’d be perfectly happy if a defenseman falls there, too.

There’s not a huge talent gap between 7-12 right now, so don’t go giving away talent unless your heart it set on someone being a future star.
- Hesh_

Appleyard said he thinks Michkov looks more like if Crosby played wing. That’s a stylistic comp, not a talent comp.

“There is so much talk about Matvei Michkov, playing style, how he will adapt to the nhl...
but for everyone throwing out Kaprizov, Panarin etc...
Honestly his "style" in OZ is more akin to if Crosby played wing. Always has been.
Grinds away at teams in the OZ, always moving, IQ is biggest standout, will go to the net, incredible leverage, manipulates defenses when has puck on his stick...“

the play button doesn't have to be hit to get the point lamont. big dummy
- hello it's me 2050

Actually it does because the title cuts off

There’s almost no way everyone they have interest in is gone by 12. Be patient and consider a cheap move up if it presents itself, but otherwise I’d only look to be moving up higher is if I get an additional bite of the apple, not just an earlier one.

Catton, Iginla, Yakemchuk, D!ickinson, hell statistically one guy is gonna fall. Hell, maybe Parekh, I dunno.

And on the off chance it doesn’t shake out that way. In the off chance the first 11 taken (in any order) are

Celebrini
Demidov
Levshunov
Buium
Lindstrom
Catton
Silayev
Iginla
D!ickinson
Parekh
Yakemchuk

then you are still ok. Pull the ripcord with Helenius or Sennecke.

I don’t think that would upset any of us.

There’s 14 guys we all like minimum. One has to be there

I didn’t even need to make it weird with Eiserman.
- Hesh_

I wouldn't have a problem with Eiserman. He's the best pure goal scorer in this year's draft. I listened to Steven Ellis yesterday and he was adamant that Eiserman's reputation for lack of defensive play and that he's one dimensional is way overblown. Ellis probably watches more junior hockey than anyone else on the planet. Prior to that, I believed the hype about his one dimensional play. After listening to someone like him that knows a world more than I do, I've changed my mind on him. Not saying I want the Flyers to draft him, but I am saying that I wouldn't have a problem with a team that his difficulty scoring selecting a guy that's specialty is actually scoring goals.

Appleyard said he thinks Michkov looks more like if Crosby played wing. That’s a stylistic comp, not a talent comp.

“There is so much talk about Matvei Michkov, playing style, how he will adapt to the nhl...
but for everyone throwing out Kaprizov, Panarin etc...
Honestly his "style" in OZ is more akin to if Crosby played wing. Always has been.
Grinds away at teams in the OZ, always moving, IQ is biggest standout, will go to the net, incredible leverage, manipulates defenses when has puck on his stick...“
- Schmojo

appleturd rules

I’ve heard the ‘25 draft has better depth than ‘24. The thought is you’ll get a better player in the 20’s next year than you will this year.

I’d be all in for moving up to ensure I get one of the top D this year. It’ll cost a lot but would be worth it. If they can do that while keeping 12 and come away with a D and Catton or Helenius, awesome. If they can’t do it and keep 12, then moving into the teens for Hage would be cool too. I’m fine if they hold onto Farabee and use him next summer to move up. Get your 1D and 2C this summer and then get your 1C next year.
- Schmojo

I mean, I’d be perfectly fine with trading down and drafting Hage instead of staying with Sennecke or Helenius if every highly touted defenseman is gone by 12 and you’re content at staying with 32.

I listed 13 guys we’d all be happy with earlier. 15 if you add Sennecke and Eiserman. Some people even love Greentree, and Beaudoin is gaining interest. Now we’re at 17.

I’d be patient at 12, and trading down to 14-16 wouldn’t hurt if an offer is made that you can’t refuse.

You’re gonna get an asset here if you just remain calm and don’t go too far off board.

Actually it does because the title cuts off
- roenick97

full corky

any vacation this summer or your usual? staying home.

full corky

any vacation this summer or your usual? staying home.
- hello it's me 2050

Let me guess, you’re using a full on desk top computer to chat with us? Time to upgrade

A couple of the recent mocks I’ve seen have us taking the defenseman from the U of Denver who put up 50 points last season. Don’t know anything about him but it seems he’s a late riser on the draft boards.

Let me guess, you’re using a full on desk top computer to chat with us? Time to upgrade
- roenick97

what is a full on desk computer?

so no vacation? you fill the pool up yet?

A couple of the recent mocks I’ve seen have us taking the defenseman from the U of Denver who put up 50 points last season. Don’t know anything about him but it seems he’s a late riser on the draft boards.
- Sublime55

Buium? What mock has him going that late? The more recent mock drafts have him going close to top 5 and I’ve even seen a couple this week have him at 3.

Are you sure you’re not looking at older mock drafts from earlier this year?