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Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jun 28 @ 11:23 AM ET
Sign me up. Do you think it's possible they keep Chytil and still target Colton? If what TJ said is true & we only need to sacrifice picks or a prospect for Colton, would you trade Berard/Sykora or a 2nd & maybe lesser prospect for him? Move Chytil to 1RW and have an insurance policy of another C in the lineup in case one goes down. Just a thought. But I also see the need for us to go get a bonafide top 6 RW
- NYR11

I don’t think the team as you’ve noted is any better/worse than last years team in the playoffs. Chytil a slight upgrade is Rod, but that’s about it.

If targeting Colton for 3c, that means moving on from Chytil. Unless you move Chytil is your Kakko replacement as 3RW. I just don’t think that’s realistic at this point in time.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 28 @ 11:23 AM ET
I think they’re (frank)ed is why lol they signed, or have to, mittlestadt and have oodles of players paid lots of money. That what I read anyway

But he’s a goodrow who can score more

- Slimtj100

I just don't think cap-strapped teams look to move their value contracts first. If they are looking to move Colton that tells me they don't think he's worth $4M even if he's a good player.

I don't think we're in a position to be adding overpriced assets. I don't disagree that he's a good player that would be a good fit. I don't agree that he's worth $4M
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:26 AM ET
Colton makes $4M and is a bottom 6 center. Didn't we learn that lesson with Goodrow? Paying for these bottom 6 guys that have won a cup is an expensive endeavor that rarely works out. These teams win because they're paying these guys minimal salaries not $4M
- SkjeiStadium

3rd line center that hits, puts up 40 pts, 15-20 goals and is 27? $4 million? Sign me up.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:28 AM ET
It was rumored that he saw leading neurologist at the university of Michigan when he was rehabbing. Not sure you can ever get 100% certainty with brain injuries, but I'd say going to level of professional is probably the best you can do.
- blacksheep1


Yeah, we are most certainly speculating.
Nothing about the Chytil Saga of 2023-24 was typical. So to me, it is reasonable to surmise that he may not have been dealing with typical concussion issues. It was floated on here that it could have been vertigo that set him back after his collapse in the pre-practice skate. That would make a lot of sense with the way he roared back to life after the season.
I agree with those that say we just treat him like any other player until proven otherwise.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:29 AM ET
I just don't think cap-strapped teams look to move their value contracts first. If they are looking to move Colton that tells me they don't think he's worth $4M even if he's a good player.

I don't think we're in a position to be adding overpriced assets. I don't disagree that he's a good player that would be a good fit. I don't agree that he's worth $4M

- SkjeiStadium

He had a good season on the 3 rd line. He does a lot of things well, PK too. We kind of need a PKer to replace Goodrow.

I wouldn’t be upset if they didn’t get him, but he’s the typical guy people have been asking for. He’s dooshy, speedy, hits and chips in on offense. I don’t think Avs want to get rid of him by choice fwiw

Kakko for Colton would be the perfect trade imo but I don’t think they want salary back like I said. Chytil could move around too with him on board.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 28 @ 11:32 AM ET
He had a good season on the 3 rd line. He does a lot of things well, PK too. We kind of need a PKer to replace Goodrow.

I wouldn’t be upset if they didn’t get him, but he’s the typical guy people have been asking for. He’s dooshy, speedy, hits and chips in on offense. I don’t think Avs want to get rid of him by choice fwiw

- Slimtj100

That's fair and obviously if we brought him in I'd be pumped to root for him, I just typically don't like chasing the bottom 6 guys from cup winning teams because they always get overpaid. I said the same thing with Goodrow and then ended up rooting for him.

A lot of the talk around Colton getting moved soon also has to do with a NTC kicking in on July 1. Not sure I love the fact that he'd be coming in at $4M AND have a NTC, but again there are worse moves we could make
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:32 AM ET
He had a good season on the 3 rd line. He does a lot of things well, PK too. We kind of need a PKer to replace Goodrow.

I wouldn’t be upset if they didn’t get him, but he’s the typical guy people have been asking for. He’s dooshy, speedy, hits and chips in on offense. I don’t think Avs want to get rid of him by choice fwiw

- Slimtj100

If Chytil is the 3C, we need a RW that plays physical to compliment Cuylle.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:34 AM ET
That's fair and obviously if we brought him in I'd be pumped to root for him, I just typically don't like chasing the bottom 6 guys from cup winning teams because they always get overpaid. I said the same thing with Goodrow and then ended up rooting for him.

A lot of the talk around Colton getting moved soon also has to do with a NTC kicking in on July 1. Not sure I love the fact that he'd be coming in at $4M AND have a NTC, but again there are worse moves we could make

- SkjeiStadium
I think comparing him to goodrow is where you’re off. Hes a much better player, intangibles maybe not, but an actually hockey player he’s way better
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:39 AM ET
If Chytil is the 3C, we need a RW that plays physical to compliment Cuylle.
- nyrangers9479

Colton has been very consistent too, last 3 years, which to me is a good sign that he won’t regress really
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
We dont know that, hopefully it's not the case.

Remember Crosby also has concussion issues early in his career and he overcame them.

- Brukie


Crosby had neck issues that were mis-diagnosed as concussion issues!! That's the scenario I'm hoping for here.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
Fox one of first six named to US Four Nations Team. Zibanejad similar for Team Sweden.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:42 AM ET
Crosby had neck issues that were mis-diagnosed as concussion issues!! That's the scenario I'm hoping for here.
- Tonybere

I still think it was vertigo, w/Fil. Seems most likely because you’re dizzy for months at a time. Never had it but that what I hear
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 28 @ 11:43 AM ET
I think comparing him to goodrow is where you’re off. Hes a much better player, intangibles maybe not, but an actually hockey player he’s way better
- Slimtj100

No I get that, I understand that he puts up more points and is good. My comparison is more about the money and that he likely wouldn't be making $4M right now with a NTC if he wasn't on that 2021 Tampa team. That experience can prove beneficial but it comes with a cost which is usually a hefty one.

I'm having a hard time thinking of teams that won recently who have players in their bottom 6 that they brought in from previous cup winners. It just seems to me like the teams that are ultimately successful find those guys before they hit the big stage and make the big bucks
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:45 AM ET
No I get that, I understand that he puts up more points and is good. My comparison is more about the money and that he likely wouldn't be making $4M right now with a NTC if he wasn't on that 2021 Tampa team. That experience can prove beneficial but it comes with a cost which is usually a hefty one.

I'm having a hard time thinking of teams that won recently who have players in their bottom 6 that they brought in from previous cup winners. It just seems to me like the teams that are ultimately successful find those guys before they hit the big stage and make the big bucks

- SkjeiStadium


They have landeskog and nichuskin in limbo too which might have a lot to do with him being available

I get your devils advocate sentiments. I just think he’d be a really good fit here. Like Sam Bennett lite
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
They have landeskog and nichuskin in limbo too which might have a lot to do with him being available

I get your devils advocate sentiments. I just think he’d be a really good fit here. Like Sam Bennett lite

- Slimtj100

Will be interesting to see what happens, I won't belabor the point any more. If he does end up a ranger I'm sure he'll be one of my favorites and I hope it works out. I hope Drury can pull of something a little more under the radar that people will look at after the year and say what a masterclass that was, similar to Forsling this year
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Will be interesting to see what happens, I won't belabor the point any more. If he does end up a ranger I'm sure he'll be one of my favorites and I hope it works out. I hope Drury can pull of something a little more under the radar that people will look at after the year and say what a masterclass that was, similar to Forsling this year
- SkjeiStadium

As long as Drury doesn’t go to the well of last year, ie Bonino, Wheeler, Pitlick, etc we’ll be in good shape. He has more cap room to do things this year
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jun 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
As long as Drury doesn’t go to the well of last year, ie Bonino, Wheeler, Pitlick, etc we’ll be on good shape. He has more cap room to do things
- Slimtj100

In fairness to Drury he had very little to work with last year so he threw a bunch of darts. While the 3 you mentioned didn't work out great, you have to include Quick and Gus in that list too and both of them played major roles throughout the year.

Agree that I'm hoping for a bigger splash this year with the extra cap room
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
As long as Drury doesn’t go to the well of last year, ie Bonino, Wheeler, Pitlick, etc we’ll be in good shape. He has more cap room to do things this year
- Slimtj100

Last year he had no cap space and no way to make cap space lol. Don’t blame him for last offseason
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
Last year he had no cap space and no way to make cap space lol. Don’t blame him for last offseason
- TPC

He’s going to be like a mad scientist this year lol
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:02 PM ET
He’s going to be like a mad scientist this year lol
- Slimtj100

He has to be. Can’t run it back. This core is maxed out at a ECF team. Need to make the necessary changes
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 28 @ 12:26 PM ET
I learned something interesting and new today and am passing it along:

Despite all of the advancements in technology, almost all of the GMs when discussing deals/trades with other teams almost exclusively have their conversations ON THE PHONE or in person. No texting or e-mails until deal is agreed upon. This is purposely done so that there cannot be any "leaks" or written proof that could undermine a GM with their own franchise. Imagine how Igor would feel if a disgruntled MSG employee publicly outed an e-mail chain showing the Rangers wanted to trade him!

I guess it all makes sense but I never knew that prior to this morning...
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 28 @ 12:28 PM ET
Last year he had no cap space and no way to make cap space lol. Don’t blame him for last offseason
- TPC

And when we sign Igor, we’ll have over $40 million on 5 players. That’s not a recipe for success either.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 28 @ 12:43 PM ET
Igor $11+
Panarin $11.6
Zib $8.5
Fox $9.5

That’s almost half your cap on 4 players. On top of that, the 3 (Igor excluded obv) are north south guys, not built for the playoffs. Need to find a way to fix that. How? I don’t know.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 28 @ 12:46 PM ET
Stamkos going to free agency
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 28 @ 12:48 PM ET
Stamkos going to free agency
- airjan23


Yes please!
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