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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
Stamkos going to free agency
- airjan23

1. Trouba for Holl
2. Buyout Holl
3. Sign Stamkos
4. ???
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
Igor $11+
Panarin $11.6
Zib $8.5
Fox $9.5

That’s almost half your cap on 4 players. On top of that, the 3 (Igor excluded obv) are north south guys, not built for the playoffs. Need to find a way to fix that. How? I don’t know.

- nyrangers9479

You are saying fox isn’t a playoff guy? Wow don’t agree at all
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
1. Trouba for Holl
2. Buyout Holl
3. Sign Stamkos
4. ???

- Feds91Stammer

It makes sense
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
It makes sense
- Slimtj100

Which is exactly why it won’t happen.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
From Emily Kaplan's ESPN column:
ONE TEAM THAT could make big waves this offseason is the New York Rangers. I have been told they've had conversations with other teams on Kaapo Kakko. While New York was unwilling to part with the former No. 2 pick in the past, including this past traded deadline, it sounds like both sides would welcome a change of scenery now. He just signed a one-year deal for $2.4 million, which is cost certainty.

There are more stories bubbling about the Rangers, ranging from exploring a Jacob Trouba trade to a possible reunion with Patrick Kane. I heard GM Chris Drury met with Trouba, whose no-move clause becomes a 15-team no-trade list on July 1, recently to discuss his future. A trade is hardly guaranteed, but the team is exploring options.

I'm told that Drury is telling people around the league he's looking to clear cap space.

Ultimately I think the team would like to focus on acquiring younger players, but I do get the sense a lot is on the table right now.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 28 @ 1:03 PM ET
Which is exactly why it won’t happen.
- Feds91Stammer

Worry about the Yzerplan
Questions on why they attached. pick to move Walman and didn't try and get a return back
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: AKA Nick, I wrote a song about Facebook Stalkin'
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:04 PM ET
From Emily Kaplan's ESPN column:
ONE TEAM THAT could make big waves this offseason is the New York Rangers. I have been told they've had conversations with other teams on Kaapo Kakko. While New York was unwilling to part with the former No. 2 pick in the past, including this past traded deadline, it sounds like both sides would welcome a change of scenery now. He just signed a one-year deal for $2.4 million, which is cost certainty.

There are more stories bubbling about the Rangers, ranging from exploring a Jacob Trouba trade to a possible reunion with Patrick Kane. I heard GM Chris Drury met with Trouba, whose no-move clause becomes a 15-team no-trade list on July 1, recently to discuss his future. A trade is hardly guaranteed, but the team is exploring options.

I'm told that Drury is telling people around the league he's looking to clear cap space.

Ultimately I think the team would like to focus on acquiring younger players, but I do get the sense a lot is on the table right now.

- airjan23

Exciting. Hopefully it leads to some great stuff
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
Worry about the Yzerplan
Questions on why they attached. pick to move Walman and didn't try and get a return back

- airjan23

I’ve been worried about the Yzerplan for a while. He’s very overrated as a GM.

Walman theories are:

1. Injury concerns
2. Too much Fortnite
3. Part of a 3 way deal with SJ and NYR
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
From Emily Kaplan's ESPN column:
ONE TEAM THAT could make big waves this offseason is the New York Rangers. I have been told they've had conversations with other teams on Kaapo Kakko. While New York was unwilling to part with the former No. 2 pick in the past, including this past traded deadline, it sounds like both sides would welcome a change of scenery now. He just signed a one-year deal for $2.4 million, which is cost certainty.

There are more stories bubbling about the Rangers, ranging from exploring a Jacob Trouba trade to a possible reunion with Patrick Kane. I heard GM Chris Drury met with Trouba, whose no-move clause becomes a 15-team no-trade list on July 1, recently to discuss his future. A trade is hardly guaranteed, but the team is exploring options.

I'm told that Drury is telling people around the league he's looking to clear cap space.

Ultimately I think the team would like to focus on acquiring younger players, but I do get the sense a lot is on the table right now.

- airjan23

10.4 million (Kakko and trouba) is a lot of money to play with
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
I’ve been worried about the Yzerplan for a while. He’s very overrated as a GM.

Walman theories are:

1. Injury concerns
2. Too much Fortnite
3. Part of a 3 way deal with SJ and NYR

- Feds91Stammer


Perhaps Kakko, Zac Jones and 30OA for 11 OA and Walman 🤔
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
Igor $11+
Panarin $11.6
Zib $8.5
Fox $9.5

That’s almost half your cap on 4 players. On top of that, the 3 (Igor excluded obv) are north south guys, not built for the playoffs. Need to find a way to fix that. How? I don’t know.

- nyrangers9479


Panarins has 2 more seasons. His line at least contributed. Fox is a Norris trophy winner so he made his money.

Zib is a whole other story.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
From Emily Kaplan's ESPN column:
ONE TEAM THAT could make big waves this offseason is the New York Rangers. I have been told they've had conversations with other teams on Kaapo Kakko. While New York was unwilling to part with the former No. 2 pick in the past, including this past traded deadline, it sounds like both sides would welcome a change of scenery now. He just signed a one-year deal for $2.4 million, which is cost certainty.

There are more stories bubbling about the Rangers, ranging from exploring a Jacob Trouba trade to a possible reunion with Patrick Kane. I heard GM Chris Drury met with Trouba, whose no-move clause becomes a 15-team no-trade list on July 1, recently to discuss his future. A trade is hardly guaranteed, but the team is exploring options.

I'm told that Drury is telling people around the league he's looking to clear cap space.

Ultimately I think the team would like to focus on acquiring younger players, but I do get the sense a lot is on the table right now.

- airjan23



Trading KK isnt a big wave move. Trouba would be.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
I’ve been worried about the Yzerplan for a while. He’s very overrated as a GM.

Walman theories are:

1. Injury concerns
2. Too much Fortnite
3. Part of a 3 way deal with SJ and NYR

- Feds91Stammer

3 makes sense if no return from SJ but NY would have to give Detroit something. If not, even with 1 or 2, Walkman had value in the open market.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:23 PM ET
10.4 million (Kakko and trouba) is a lot of money to play with
- Slimtj100



Not really, we need a RW so trading a RW would mean we need another RW. So thats 2 RW's in need and then a solid 3-4 defense man. Those 3 players coming in would need to average 3.5 per in salary. Thats tough.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
Panarins has 2 more seasons. His line at least contributed. Fox is a Norris trophy winner so he made his money.

Zib is a whole other story.

- Brukie

As much as the perception is he was brutal, he had 24 points in 20 playoff games in 2022 and 16 in 15 this year. granted, much was on the PP, but he still was able to be somewhat productive. Just not 5x5
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
3 makes sense if no return from SJ but NY would have to give Detroit something. If not, even with 1 or 2, Walkman had value in the open market.
- airjan23

Yeah the theory is SJ took Goodrow to get around his NTC. It’s why I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Holl for Trouba deal.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
Not really, we need a RW so trading a RW would mean we need another RW. So thats 2 RW's in need and then a solid 3-4 defense man. Those 3 players coming in would need to average 3.5 per in salary. Thats tough.
- Brukie

Othmann has to be in the plans somewhere. That takes care of one spot at 925k I’m pretty sure
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
As much as the perception is he was brutal, he had 24 points in 20 playoff games in 2022 and 16 in 15 this year. granted, much was on the PP, but he still was able to be somewhat productive. Just not 5x5
- airjan23

Jan my top prediction for next year is many people will be apologizing to Zib
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
Yeah the theory is SJ took Goodrow to get around his NTC. It’s why I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Holl for Trouba deal.
- Feds91Stammer

Like you said it’s such an obvious trade to be made but it won’t lol
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jun 28 @ 1:29 PM ET
Othmann has to be in the plans somewhere. That takes care of one spot at 925k I’m pretty sure
- Slimtj100


I still have a feeling he’s gonna get packaged in a deal for a big time acquisition


If we clear enough cap space, including kakko, we should absolutely pursue Sprong as a 3rd line replacement.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
I still have a feeling he’s gonna get packaged in a deal for a big time acquisition


If we clear enough cap space, including kakko, we should absolutely pursue Sprong as a 3rd line replacement.

- picklerick

Idk about that still, othmann traded. There isn’t any reason to because they can get a good player without trading him. He’s still Drurys first draft pick. Which is like your first born child for a GM. I’d be stunned if they traded him
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jun 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
Idk about that still, othmann traded. There isn’t any reason to because they can get a good player without trading him. He’s still Drurys first draft pick. Which is like your first birthed child for a GM. I’d be stunned if they traded him
- Slimtj100


I just don’t see a path for him to any playing time without injury. Kreider, Panarin, cuylle
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
I just don’t see a path for him to any playing time without injury. Kreider, Panarin, cuylle
- picklerick

Someone is going to RW, either Cuylle or othmann. I think we worry about players be able to switch wings too much. It’s not as hard as it is on defense. Othmann was playing RW in Hartford as far as we know. At least a little bit of time he did

I could even see a left side like

Kreider
Panarin
Cuylle
Othmann

Othmann plays with whoever to ease him into the NHL. It would be fine imo to do that for a year. 9-10 mins a game. Lavy just has to play the bottom 6 more
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 28 @ 1:41 PM ET
Yeah, we are most certainly speculating.
Nothing about the Chytil Saga of 2023-24 was typical. So to me, it is reasonable to surmise that he may not have been dealing with typical concussion issues. It was floated on here that it could have been vertigo that set him back after his collapse in the pre-practice skate. That would make a lot of sense with the way he roared back to life after the season.
I agree with those that say we just treat him like any other player until proven otherwise.

- Tonybere

Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:41 PM ET
As much as the perception is he was brutal, he had 24 points in 20 playoff games in 2022 and 16 in 15 this year. granted, much was on the PP, but he still was able to be somewhat productive. Just not 5x5
- airjan23


5v5 is most important, especially in a tight series. He beat up on Washington then disappeared halfway thru the Canes series. We wont win unless our first line produces.

He turtles against tougher opponents, he is showing it more and more every year.
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