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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 8:53 PM ET
Guy, did you just see what they passed on?
- Flyers1218

Who? Helenius? I liked him, but I am not on the Flyers scouting staff watching 100s of games. They must have seen something in this kid, lets give it a chance.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 28 @ 8:53 PM ET
I guess we gotta be in and hope his offense is all they think he is.

I forget who, but someone had him around 12 just after Sennecke.

But stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

- Hesh_

Told ya not happening philly being Philly
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:53 PM ET
i also like that most haven't heard of any of these guys until last week and are now feigning outrage
- anti-lame

It will cool down once Bill gets the Comcast approved blog tomorrow.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 28 @ 8:53 PM ET
I feel they'll copy last year's draft and go defense next pick. Assuming no trades.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 28 @ 8:54 PM ET
Feel bad for Jett, now in the York spot in relation to Caufield. Only 17, nexy year curious what kind of jump he incurs.
- Trox88

Yeah, but York was at least thought to be one of the better defensemen at the time.

We wanted Caufield, but York was still thought to be a fine addition one day.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 28 @ 8:54 PM ET
Really? Why… they just took a Scott Laughton clone and passed on a guy that could actually be a true # 1D ….thrilled… I wish now he would have trade 3 first round picks if that’s what he going to do with them…stupid
- landros 2


This right here. The picks are pointless if they’re just going to waste them
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jun 28 @ 8:54 PM ET
They pass on Buium, a potential 1D, and only get a 3rd rd pick out of it. Then they pass on Helenius for Luchenko? Completely asinine. He’s also a small center. So he’s gonna be a 3rd line center or 2nd line winger. WTF!
- Schmojo

11 other teams passed in Helenius
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jun 28 @ 8:54 PM ET
Fan favorite bottom six player. Oh Flyers.
- hereticpride


Fan favorite, PHYSICAL, bottom 6 player. Born to be a Flyer. Unlike the projected 1st pair dman who scores at will, who was not born to be a flyer.

They better hope Buium doesn't hit his ceiling.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:55 PM ET
Can we at least move up for Surin
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jun 28 @ 8:55 PM ET
We could have picked helanius and wallenius.... now... it's gone
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 8:55 PM ET
Pronmans last mock had him going 18 to chicago
- MBFlyerfan

Button had Luchenko 19th overall, Russ Cohen didn't even have in his top 32. There are a lot of opinions out there.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 28 @ 8:56 PM ET
What just happened here? I'm very disappointed in how this unfolded. There were much better prospects on the board.

Buium and Helenius surround our 13th pick. I feel like I'll be cringing in the future when I look back at this draft.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 8:56 PM ET
11 other teams passed in Helenius
- WhiskeyMan

And we can be comforted to know since Buffalo drafted Helenius, he won't turn into much
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 8:57 PM ET
I just want the Flyers to trade up now and get Solberg ...
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 28 @ 8:57 PM ET
You guys are so shortsighted. Dude’s name is Jett. With a name like that he’s gonna be a great hockey player. And his last name, Luchanko, is a good Russian last name. “Luchanko to Michkov, score!” It will become the regular call for Jim Jackson, who does not have a good Russian surname
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 28 @ 8:58 PM ET
11 other teams passed in Helenius
- WhiskeyMan


And it's not like Helenuis is a giant either. Under 6ft.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 28 @ 8:58 PM ET
Yeah, but York was at least thought to be one of the better defensemen at the time.

We wanted Caufield, but York was still thought to be a fine addition one day.

- Hesh_


Exactly, York wasn’t a reach when they selected him. Plus he was a D over a W. I didn’t like passing on Caufield at all but it’s no where near this colossal disaster. Danny just defined his career on this pick. If Buium gets anywhere close to his potential this will be historically bad.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 8:58 PM ET
What just happened here? I'm very disappointed in how this unfolded. There were much better prospects on the board.

Buium and Helenius surround our 13th pick. I feel like I'll be cringing in the future when I look back at this draft.

- dubc55

The Flyers could have had either player and passed on both .. what does that tell you? Flahr has a track record of making good picks and judging prospects well.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:58 PM ET
What just happened here? I'm very disappointed in how this unfolded. There were much better prospects on the board.

Buium and Helenius surround our 13th pick. I feel like I'll be cringing in the future when I look back at this draft.

- dubc55

But we got a 3rd!!!I!!!II

/sarcasm


I feel like they could’ve traded 12 for a better prospect.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jun 28 @ 8:58 PM ET
very disappointed in their pick.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 8:58 PM ET
And it's not like Helenuis is a giant either. Under 6ft.
- Pelle31Forever

Helenius and Luchenko are the same size
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 28 @ 8:58 PM ET
Yeah, but York was at least thought to be one of the better defensemen at the time.

We wanted Caufield, but York was still thought to be a fine addition one day.

- Hesh_


They're betting on him being so young, there is still significant growth. I hope it works out, but I am concerned.
Cap437
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.30.2017

Jun 28 @ 8:59 PM ET
I think I would have rather taken a chance trading to the jets for mcgroarty.
Disappointed!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:59 PM ET
You guys are so shortsighted. Dude’s name is Jett. With a name like that he’s gonna be a great hockey player. And his last name, Luchanko, is a good Russian last name. “Luchanko to Michkov, score!” It will become the regular call for Jim Jackson, who does not have a good Russian surname
- mikeyo27


Lol Luchanko is a Ukrainian last name...
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 28 @ 8:59 PM ET
Welp, at least Hamas sympathizers won’t be protesting us over Buium…

Damn. It wasn’t that hard. He was sitting there.
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