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Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
From Appleyard:

“The biggest red flag for me with this pick is actually not related to the player.

It is IF @NHLFlyers passed on Buium because they THINK they have strong young D and wanted to add a C.

That would be scary.”

Pretty much sums it up. Passing on Buium says they see Drysdale as their 1D. So their evaluation of their current players is poor. Exactly why they’re gonna keep TK for another 9 years.

- Schmojo



Nah roll with risto another 3 years. Who needs a potential 1d with tons of offense. That doesn’t play well in todays nhl
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
I just want the Flyers to trade up now and get Solberg ...
- jd250


Maybe he can use that 3rd round pick he got to pass on a potential #1 D to take a kid that would be there into the 20’s.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
From Appleyard:

“The biggest red flag for me with this pick is actually not related to the player.

It is IF @NHLFlyers passed on Buium because they THINK they have strong young D and wanted to add a C.

That would be scary.”

Pretty much sums it up. Passing on Buium says they see Drysdale as their 1D. So their evaluation of their current players is poor. Exactly why they’re gonna keep TK for another 9 years.

- Schmojo


JD is a RD

Buium is a LD.

They don’t compete. In fact, he was probably projected to be his pairing partner in due time.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
Well, since Jett was not on the bingo card, might as well go all crazy and draft Connelly next.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
No way they get Solberg at #32. STFU
- Glak18

I never said they would get him at 32 .. they will have to trade up to get him
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
can confirm d!ckinson was their guy
- anti-lame

They had the choice of two. They passed on both.

lol. I really still can’t believe it
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
I don't know if this is a good pick or a bad pick. I'll tell you in 2-3 years as we see how Luchenko develops. All I can say is Luchenko is a center with above average speed and good skill, plus already has NHL size and will only fill out more, maybe even grow another inch or two. Flahr is a very good drafter and has done a good job with the Flyers. Everyone hated when the Flyers traded down and got York, and look how that turned out. I just think we need to see how this turns out and not rush to judgement. This clearly was not the Flyers first choice. They desperately tried to trade up and couldn't do it, and obviously didn't like Helenius and Buium enough.
- jd250


I also slept at a Holiday Inn last night. I like ya man but holy poop you’re dulesional. This was the complete opposite of a swing. This was as monumental disappointment. Arrogance of the Hextall era honestly
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:14 PM ET
Go look it up .. if a team gets 2 NHL players from a draft that is a good draft. 3+ players is an excellent draft.
- jd250


You should be the spokesperson for the Flyers, now put your dunce cap on.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:14 PM ET
Hahahahahaha

(frank)ing dogpoop loser franchise more obsessed with drooling over their alumni

- flyer_nutter

At least they didn’t drag out a Broad Street Bully to make the pick like anyone gives a poop about them anymore.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
Still praying for an Askarov trade.

Do something significant you dumb (frank)s

- hereticpride


Yeah, I would have rather packaged the pick in a trade for a prospect or something. This was a disappointment all around.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
The Caps just drafted the 29th player in mock drafts at 17. Was this a bad pick too?
- jd250

They probably take a potential #1 D ….if he’s there.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
So if they’re not taking big swings to get elite talent they will wheel and deal or think they don’t need it/already have it (internal player evaluation way off the (frank)ing reservation).
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
You should be the spokesperson for the Flyers, now put your dunce cap on.
- Glak18

I feel bad for you ..
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
I never said they would get him at 32 .. they will have to trade up to get him
- jd250


I would of them rather take Solberg at #13 if that was the case. Hopefully the kid becomes an all-star in the AHL in a few years.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jun 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
I don't know if this is a good pick or a bad pick. I'll tell you in 2-3 years as we see how Luchenko develops. All I can say is Luchenko is a center with above average speed and good skill, plus already has NHL size and will only fill out more, maybe even grow another inch or two. Flahr is a very good drafter and has done a good job with the Flyers. Everyone hated when the Flyers traded down and got York, and look how that turned out. I just think we need to see how this turns out and not rush to judgement. This clearly was not the Flyers first choice. They desperately tried to trade up and couldn't do it, and obviously didn't like Helenius and Buium enough.
- jd250



Not true, I like the move at the time
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 9:17 PM ET
I’m floored buium was there for them and they passed. Can’t believe he was there at 12. F this team.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 28 @ 9:17 PM ET
At least they didn’t drag out a Broad Street Bully to make the pick like anyone gives a poop about them anymore.
- hereticpride


Ohh but they made sure to get a guy out there to shout out let’s get ready to rumble.

This is a pathetic, antiquated franchise full of (frank)ing scum. Top to bottom, and every one of them associated with it.

Comcast doesn’t have the balls to hold them accountable.

Imagine the (frank)ing losers cheering this poop on next season.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:17 PM ET
ESPN

Scouting notes: Luchanko has all the makings of a dream bottom-six role. Given the offensive instincts and abilities he has shown this season, Luchanko has a better ability to drive play than many believe. He's an excellent two-way player, a rare feat for a very young player in a draft class. The combination of production, development and a later birthday give Luchanko a projection closer to middle six than bottom six.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:18 PM ET
Can’t wait to see who they take with this 3rd.

Do any of these wet Comcast chodes have a kid who’s dream is to play in the NHL
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:18 PM ET
I feel bad for you ..
- jd250


I pity you. Gobbling up all the Flyers do as great. If you knew anything about hockey, you would at least be able to comprehend they took a risk and not in a good way.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 28 @ 9:18 PM ET
They probably take a potential #1 D ….if he’s there.
- landros 2

Who, the Flyers? I don't know. Solberg is still there. EJ Emery is still there. Good size in both. The Flyers might have an opportunty to trade with Vegas here.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 28 @ 9:18 PM ET
Go look it up .. if a team gets 2 NHL players from a draft that is a good draft. 3+ players is an excellent draft.
- jd250


i dont care how many they get, id rather get 2 good ones. You arent trading 10 laughtons for a celebrini. Now getting an nhl players in rounds 4+ is good news, but everyone gets some of them. Would you rather 4, 3-4 liners or 2 top 6? 4th liners are cheap to get as FAs also

No idea how this is going to turn out, but everything ive read, zeev could be a #1. Maybe they thought the wild would take helenius?? You dont take chances like that on a rebuild, when you have an opportunity, They better trade up from 32 now
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:18 PM ET
ESPN

Scouting notes: Luchanko has all the makings of a dream bottom-six role. Given the offensive instincts and abilities he has shown this season, Luchanko has a better ability to drive play than many believe. He's an excellent two-way player, a rare feat for a very young player in a draft class. The combination of production, development and a later birthday give Luchanko a projection closer to middle six than bottom six.

- furio16

So he’s a Laughton replacement, if he pans out. Spectacular.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:19 PM ET
Go look it up .. if a team gets 2 NHL players from a draft that is a good draft. 3+ players is an excellent draft.
- jd250

He hasn’t done a real good job as you say.

Why not answer my question?
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 28 @ 9:19 PM ET
The Caps just drafted the 29th player in mock drafts at 17. Was this a bad pick too?
- jd250


It’s not the same. The latter half of the first round is expected to be very random. Washington wasn’t passing on a potential 1D in Buium. Context matters. Flyers could have moved back a second time and still gotten Luchenko or Hage. NYI got a 2nd for moving back only 2 spots from 18-20. That’s way better asset management than the Flyers.
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