Just losing those last games against NYR and NJ would have had them picking 9. Huge difference imo from 9-12
- Schmojo

They always have a way to win those games no one wants them to just to give fans "hope" so they can yank it away at the last minute as always.

Yep. The Flyer way….

Again people can keep saying it, but it doesn't make it true. Lindstrom is not and has never been tagged as a "franchise" center by ANYONE, not even the "experts".

He is highly ranked because he has size and skill.....and IF he can put it together. Franchise centers don't have to put it together.
- Glak18

Exactly, he may very well end up as a 2C. It’s why he makes a ton of sense for CLB because they already have Fantilli so Lindstrom doesn’t need to be a true 1C. If he turns out as an above avg 2C they’re set long term. Plus they have Jiricek and Mateychuk on D.

If the Flyers do somehow move up to take him though, they absolutely can’t move their own ‘25 1st. Next years draft is where they have to get their 1C as there’s potentially a few available. But I will point out, the teams who haven’t successfully tanked are the teams that focused solely on forwards and didn’t take defensemen. I think it’s a mistake to move up for a forward in this draft. Move up and take a D.

Not really
- Sublime55

Uh yeah

I like Hage too, but has some work to develop. I really think people are sleeping on some really nice D later in the 1st. I believe Alfons Freij is going to be a top pair.
- Glak18

Yes, they can get a solid D with 32 and possibly 51. With how solid the defense corp is in this draft there’s bound to be a few that drop past their ranking.

This site,
https://nhlentrydraft.com/mock-draft/
Let’s you simulate the draft and make your own picks and I kept finding myself selecting defensemen at 32, 51, and even 77.

It’s funny. There’s a quote from Trotz from a few days ago essentially saying if Askarov outplays Saros he could get the job then they turn around and give Saros an 8 year deal.

Man I want Danny to find a way to make that trade.

Again people can keep saying it, but it doesn't make it true. Lindstrom is not and has never been tagged as a "franchise" center by ANYONE, not even the "experts".

He is highly ranked because he has size and skill.....and IF he can put it together. Franchise centers don't have to put it together.
- Glak18

Cayden Lindstrom is every scout’s dream. The type of player who checks off all of the boxes and also just happens to be a delight off of the ice, too. Someone your boss will be happy to stake a top-five pick and their reputation on.

Because Lindstrom already has everything it takes to succeed in the NHL. He towers above most of his peers in junior, can beat the vast majority of them in a foot race, score from range, and can distribute the puck with all but the very best in this draft. There isn’t any one tool that’s absent from his toolbox.

And with even a little guidance and development, he won’t just play for your team; he’ll completely change the complexion of your franchise.

Any assessment of Lindstrom’s game has to start with his dynamism. He’s a fearless, inventive, inside-driven puck carrier, willing to bury the shoulder while darting down the wing or swashbuckle his way through defenders as he carves his way between the hashmarks. Not content to rely on pure skill or heft, Lindstrom displays all the hallmarks of the NHL’s most potent rush scorers in open ice. Little things like using the dotted line or a change of pace game to create space for himself, cutting inside against backpressure, using fakes to bring opponents to a stop before cutting across their momentum, baiting them into a pokecheck before dragging the puck around their stick – watch his tape closely, and you’ll see it all there.

Mostly, this served Lindstrom as a finisher, as evidenced by his disproportionate goal-to-assist ratio. With a shot that can do damage from range and the skills to pull pucks close to his frame and score from in tight, why not?

But it would probably be a mistake to characterize him as a pure shooter. Lindstrom has the touch as a passer to get the puck around just about any set of obstacles and even occasionally flashes high-end ideas as a playmaker, too. He’s prone to overhandling the puck from time to time, and his sense is probably more high-end than elite, but there isn’t any reason he can’t be a credible dual-threat scorer in the NHL.

If that’s not enough, Lindstrom is also a reasonably strong two-way player. The combination of his speed and his size confers to him a massive defensive range, and the high-running motor that he plays with acts as the force multiplier that takes it even further. There may not be any Frank J. Selke trophies in his future, but a coach is never going to have to worry about the matchup game when they call his number.

The real kicker, though? Lindstrom is just starting to seize his potential. He’s a little on the older side for this draft, all things being relative, but his development into an elite junior player is actually a relatively recent phenomenon. The player that so impressed us this year may have a lot more developmental runway in front of him than you might think.

In a lot of drafts, you’d be happy to get such a player with the first overall pick. Instead, Lindstrom may be there for the taking around five. You can’t beat that.
- Eliteprospects

You're underselling him a bit. The kid has franchise potential.

Yes, they can get a solid D with 32 and possibly 51. With how solid the defense corp is in this draft there’s bound to be a few that drop past their ranking.

This site,
https://nhlentrydraft.com/mock-draft/
Let’s you simulate the draft and make your own picks and I kept finding myself selecting defensemen at 32, 51, and even 77.
- Schmojo

Never seen the website before, thanks for the link.

I would take Misa or Howe at #51 if possible

Report says TB offered Stamkos an 8yr deal at $3m AAV.

My realistic wants at #12 if stay there…
1) catton
2)helanius
3)trade down ( if sitting at 12)

My guess: they can’t pass on big guy senneke and that’s the pick

Report says TB offered Stamkos an 8yr deal at $3m AAV.
- Schmojo

They tried to do the same w/ Killorn... offered him 8-years at some low ass cap hit to equal out the total money but he declined and went to Anaheim.

Looks like Stammer is doing the same.

You would do it, but I am not sure Columbus would.

Have a feeling Saliyev is dropping past the top 7. Actually I believe he'll be there @ 11 for SJ. See if they pull the trigger. I need Habs fans to cry again when the team bypasses another Russian winger.

My realistic wants at #12 if stay there…
1) catton
2)helanius
3)trade down ( if sitting at 12)

My guess: they can’t pass on big guy senneke and that’s the pick
- Stayin alive

My guess is Sennecke goes to NJ at 10. Top D should be off the board even if they don’t need D. They could use some size up front which Sennecke provides but Catton and Helenius don’t.

Di Marco says they’re still trying to trade into the top 10, with any team. But they may explore a trade back if unsuccessful. Which tells me they think the player available to them at 12 will be just as good as the player they’d get a few picks back. So the top 10 is their threshold.
- Schmojo

I think they may trade back to to get Solberg, who I know Vegas wants. I'd be fine with that if the Flyers gets a 2025 pick in return also.

Have a feeling Saliyev is dropping past the top 7. Actually I believe he'll be there @ 11 for SJ. See if they pull the trigger. I need Habs fans to cry again when the team bypasses another Russian winger.
- Trox88

He's got more upside and more tools than Simashev and Simashev went top-6 in a higher quality draft. NHL scouts love unicorns on defense.

My guess is Sennecke goes to NJ at 10. Top D should be off the board even if they don’t need D. They could use some size up front which Sennecke provides but Catton and Helenius don’t.
- Schmojo

Yeah I’m kinda meh with pick 12. Should get decent player but tk signing looming makes me 🤮

Report says TB offered Stamkos an 8yr deal at $3m AAV.
- Schmojo

That is insane. I guess they are basically nudging and winking that we’ll buy you out whenever you feel like retiring. Offering an 8 year deal to a 34 year old with his injury history…

It’s not cap circumvention but damn creative.

Yeah I’m kinda meh with pick 12. Should get decent player but tk signing looming makes me 🤮
- Stayin alive

Same. The fact that TK’s name isn’t out there but Frost’s and Farabee’s names are annoys me. TK should be shipped to move up. But that means they’re all in on signing him. That and the clear desire to move all the way to 4 shows they’re not intent on rebuilding properly.

That is insane. I guess they are basically nudging and winking that we’ll buy you out whenever you feel like retiring. Offering an 8 year deal to a 34 year old with his injury history…

It’s not cap circumvention but damn creative.
- hereticpride

Since he’d sign the deal before he was 35 they avoid any cap issues if he retires at any point before the deal expires.

He's got more upside and more tools than Simashev and Simashev went top-6 in a higher quality draft. NHL scouts love unicorns on defense.
- Tomahawk

GMs no doubt reach. Just seems more blueline depth in the top 10 this season. If Flyers stick @ 12, hope all the dmen go. Catton or Helenius for me.

Same. The fact that TK’s name isn’t out there but Frost’s and Farabee’s names are annoys me. TK should be shipped to move up. But that means they’re all in on signing him. That and the clear desire to move all the way to 4 shows they’re not intent on rebuilding properly.
- Schmojo

My question is why give TK that money (even if you think it’s a quick retool) when it’s the one position the Flyers have a ton of depth at? If anything wing is where they should be putting the least amount of money for the foreseeable future.

Michkov
Tippet
Foerster
Farabee
Brink


Then you’ve got in the system

Tuomaala
Cirnek
Barkey(who is a center but is winger sized at the NHL level)

According to Ek's post it came to....5 1st rounders (#12, #32, 2025 1st, 2025 1st (Col) and either Farabee or Frost.

Unless that player is in the Stamkos/MacKinnon Hedman/Dahlin level right out of the get go...suck a big giant bag of Flyers asking 5 1sts.

Lindstrom is a tough sell for 2 1sts, let alone 5
- Glak18

Yeah if true, that’s extortion.

Same. The fact that TK’s name isn’t out there but Frost’s and Farabee’s names are annoys me. TK should be shipped to move up. But that means they’re all in on signing him. That and the clear desire to move all the way to 4 shows they’re not intent on rebuilding properly.
- Schmojo

The only way I think I could possibly stomach a tk extension is if they somehow got rid of coots contract.

I know I'm in the minority but I would rather they keep the picks and draft Helenius at 12.