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Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 28 @ 11:14 PM ET
Maybe Columbus already informed them? Maybe that’s why they moved32 ….knowing they have 36?
- landros 2


Columbus is keeping the pick
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 28 @ 11:16 PM ET
Buium could be the Heiskanen in this draft. A puzzling move but not surprising from the three stooges
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:16 PM ET
Total poopshow today. This franchise is an embarrassment.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:16 PM ET
And good 2nds too....Flyers, Anaheim and Columbus (if they take this years pick).

The moves suggest the Flyers want to build with next years draft, but time will tell if they contradict themselves by re-signing TK and trading for more depth.

- Glak18

If they trade tk and laughts for picks I’m all in. I will erase this draft out of memory. But that ain’t happening
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:19 PM ET
Tonight set them back a decade
- Schmojo

It’s very possible that it did.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 28 @ 11:19 PM ET
If they trade tk and laughts for picks I’m all in. I will erase this draft out of memory. But that ain’t happening
- Stayin alive


They could have done all of that and had Buium too. Even the best 1D takes 2-3 years to develop. With these other moves they’d have been able to be in a position to take Hagans or McKenna over the next 2 drafts and have them come in right when Buium was coming in. It’s just horrible. Now we have to wait at least 1 more year for them to find their 1D when next year doesn’t have many top D. So then it’s another year. And until that 1D is found they’ll constantly be 3-4 years away.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:21 PM ET
Flyers Facebook posted a graphic of the Oilers trade and (frank)ed up who got what. Just to put a cherry on top of this turd sundae
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:21 PM ET
I don’t disagree. Passing on Buium was a massive massive mistake. You can’t get elite talent if you won’t draft him.

I was saying after they made the decision they weren’t taking him (idiotic), getting a third to move down one spot is not too bad.

- Flyers1218

Even that is dumb as fuq. Buffalo moved from 11 to 14 and got pick 42 I believe.

If you are dumb enough to pass on Zeev Jett must’ve been their target they figured would be there. Which is a massive reach at 12 or 13. With all the call made and teams moving up last day or so if Jett is your guy you gotta know it’s kinda reach and maximize the trade down. A 3rd is extremely underwhelming. Like I said look what Buffalo got.


Not that it’s earth shattering better but it is much better
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jun 28 @ 11:21 PM ET
What was the plan for tonight?

1. Draft Richardinson
2. ?
3. Stanley Cup
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:23 PM ET
Funny thing is they kicked the can even further down the road tonight by taking a long term project and trading for futures so resigning TK makes even less sense now.

But they’re still gonna do it anyway.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:24 PM ET
Mine too at this point. I might walk into a store and buy the first non Flyers hockey jersey I see. No other NHL franchise puts their fans thru this poop. They’re like Mets level bad.
- hereticpride


I hate to rant so much but what makes it horrible for me is living in Buffalo I get poop all the time while Buffalo yes is a joke at least they know it. Their expectation really isn’t as high. So of course my phone is blowing up laughing at them passing on Zeev and reaching for Jett. Just laughingstock beyond comprehension at this point
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:24 PM ET
Columbus is keeping the pick
- Schmojo

Never a doubt they wouldn’t
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 28 @ 11:26 PM ET
What was the plan for tonight?

1. Draft Richardinson
2. ?
3. Stanley Cup

- dubc55

4. Maintain the nomansland existence
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 28 @ 11:26 PM ET
Disappointing draft day for sure. Not seeing a bright future with Briere at the helm as of tonight…some ok moves, a disaster losing Quitter. Acquired some draft capital but that was more with taking on horrid contracts….doesn’t seem able to consummate an actual hockey trade….that’s a bit of a problem when you’re rebuilding. Reaching at 13 doesn’t inspire much confidence to change my mind.
- landros 2


Provorov was a culture trade, Hayes was a culture trade, DeAngelo was a culture move, Walker wasn’t going to fit under the cap. Seeler was a culture move, EJ was a culture move, Poehling was a culture move, not trading Laughton was a culture move, drafting Luchenko was a culture move, buying out Atkinson was a culture move, resigning TK is going to be about the culture. At what f-ing point do you have enough culture!

Honestly this reminds me of Chip Kelly with the Eagles. Scheme over talent. How’d that work out?!
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 28 @ 11:27 PM ET
Loading up all this draft capital when most of these future prospects will be coming in when Michkov is signing his 2nd contract. At earliest, Jett will be here in Michkov's last year of ELC. There is no need to keep TK, Laughton, and Sanheim past next summer.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:27 PM ET
They could have done all of that and had Buium too. Even the best 1D takes 2-3 years to develop. With these other moves they’d have been able to be in a position to take Hagans or McKenna over the next 2 drafts and have them come in right when Buium was coming in. It’s just horrible. Now we have to wait at least 1 more year for them to find their 1D when next year doesn’t have many top D. So then it’s another year. And until that 1D is found they’ll constantly be 3-4 years away.
- Schmojo


Oh I know for sure. Fell right in their lap. What luck. First mm now Zeev. Could’ve been great story. Even with that fuq up it’s still among salvagable if they move to laughts. But the time is one step closer to running out.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:27 PM ET
Based on what little I know about who we drafted and the moves made tonight, tonight from my standpoint was a dud. Now, at the moment I have no reason to believe that Jett Luchanko is going to be average to bad. Many looked at Steve Yzerman sideways when he drafted Moritz Seider who was projected to be taken later in his draft class. What I will say is, if you’re going to make moves like trading back 1 spot to draft a player, you better be sure there is a “wow” factor. Briere claims his scouts have done the work, so when guys in here get upset that Jett Luchanko was projected to go much lower in a few mock drafts, that carries zero weight. With this said, the best point made tonight that I read was the handling of the 32nd overall pick. That’s the pick we got for Giroux. Briere making us wait all night and not even using it after two years of waiting spits in the fans’ face to a degree. Maybe Danny B doesn’t like this draft but it’s hard to argue that he improved us in anyway tonight.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 28 @ 11:28 PM ET
Even that is dumb as fuq. Buffalo moved from 11 to 14 and got pick 42 I believe.

If you are dumb enough to pass on Zeev Jett must’ve been their target they figured would be there. Which is a massive reach at 12 or 13. With all the call made and teams moving up last day or so if Jett is your guy you gotta know it’s kinda reach and maximize the trade down. A 3rd is extremely underwhelming. Like I said look what Buffalo got.


Not that it’s earth shattering better but it is much better

- Stayin alive


And they still got Helenius. Briere was caught with his pants down. He failed to move up and didn’t have a backup plan. And all the other GMs knew it. Guerin probably gave him the 3rd as pity on him.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:29 PM ET
Loading up all this draft capital when most of these future prospects will be coming in when Michkov is signing his 2nd contract. At earliest, Jett will be here in Michkov's last year of ELC. There is no need to keep TK, Laughton, and Sanheim past next summer.
- Trox88

Maybe he’s gearing up for a tank job. Only sense I can make of this night of nonsense.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:29 PM ET
What was the plan for tonight?

1. Draft Richardinson
2. ?
3. Stanley Cup

- dubc55

Obtain high end talent. That’s all they say they need. Couldn’t wouldn’t trade up for it….

It falls in their lap again amazingly and they are three blind mice and don’t even know it
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:31 PM ET
Mine too at this point. I might walk into a store and buy the first non Flyers hockey jersey I see. No other NHL franchise puts their fans thru this poop. They’re like Mets level bad.
- hereticpride

I’m a Mets fan too.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:31 PM ET
Obtain high end talent. That’s all they say they need. Couldn’t wouldn’t trade up for it….

It falls in their lap again amazingly and they are three blind mice and don’t even know it

- Stayin alive

This is the post. Tattoo it on their (frank)ing foreheads.

Condolences. The bums lost!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:31 PM ET
I’m a Mets fan too.
- Flyers1218

Oof
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:34 PM ET
Maybe he’s gearing up for a tank job. Only sense I can make of this night of nonsense.
- hereticpride

If he’s gearing up for that tk and laughts get traded before free agency.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 28 @ 11:35 PM ET
Maybe he’s gearing up for a tank job. Only sense I can make of this night of nonsense.
- hereticpride


It still doesn’t explain not taking Buium. Even if you don’t want Buium, you draft him and then look to trade him in the future. He’d offer more value that than Luchenko and a 3rd. Seriously, they could have used Buium and their first next year to try to get to 1st overall to get Hagans.
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