Just over 12 million in space after Liljegren and don't have Tanev signed yet.

Don't think they could fit Montour, Tanev and a goalie with that 12 million, even if they could that leaves them without the centre and winger they could use up front.
- joel878

Business as usual - same old same old Leaf approach to roster construction. Running it back HARD. Why would anyone be surprised?

I mean I get the thought - he a puck moving dman and Leafs are thin on that front but crap man I just hope that Tre would’ve found one with more bite that doesn’t cry while wheeling back to scoop up a puck
- Big23Questions

As Liljegren enters his age 25 season this contract determines whether he is capable of taking the next steps or not. His next contract he'll be a UFA and his talent level will be all but determined.

Before you doubt this - Vince Dunn, who is of similar size, and similar defensive shortcomings, didn't actually emerge until his age 26 season. I think Dunn has better offensive tools, but Liljegren is an excellent skater with good vision who can make an excellent outlet pass. If you pair him with a defender who can actually take care of the more physical side, he can probably flourish.

Remember that Berube won the cup in St. Louis with a defense that featured Pietrangelo obviously, and had toughness in Parayko and Edmundson, but it also relied on guys who moved the puck - Bouwmeester, Vince Dunn, and spotting in of Carl Gunnarsson and Robert Bortuzzo were the D they used in that playoff run.

You need toughness but you also need mobility. You need to win board battles, but you also need to move the puck. I'm not against some balance in the backend as long as they are supporting the weaker parts of the pairings adequately.

It's why I keep saying that having someone who can be mean and make space for Marner would help him immensely. You need skill, but you all need grit - all over the ice.

Lily - Yikes. I’m sorry boys.
- Big23Questions

Decent deal and very tradable.

Still some untapped potential, methinks.

Also, how much does he get in arbitration?

Just over 12 million in space after Liljegren and don't have Tanev signed yet.

Don't think they could fit Montour, Tanev and a goalie with that 12 million, even if they could that leaves them without the centre and winger they could use up front.
- joel878

and the rfa will take up some of that 12M cap space

Just over 12 million in space after Liljegren and don't have Tanev signed yet.

Don't think they could fit Montour, Tanev and a goalie with that 12 million, even if they could that leaves them without the centre and winger they could use up front.
- joel878

(frank) off Billy.
Let a guy dream.

🖕🏻

Business as usual - same old same old Leaf approach to roster construction. Running it back HARD. Why would anyone be surprised?
- fifty__missions

don't you have some white claws to go drink ?

As Liljegren enters his age 25 season this contract determines whether he is capable of taking the next steps or not. His next contract he'll be a UFA and his talent level will be all but determined.

Before you doubt this - Vince Dunn, who is of similar size, and similar defensive shortcomings, didn't actually emerge until his age 26 season. I think Dunn has better offensive tools, but Liljegren is an excellent skater with good vision who can make an excellent outlet pass. If you pair him with a defender who can actually take care of the more physical side, he can probably flourish.

Remember that Berube won the cup in St. Louis with a defense that featured Pietrangelo obviously, and had toughness in Parayko and Edmundson, but it also relied on guys who moved the puck - Bouwmeester, Vince Dunn, and spotting in of Carl Gunnarsson and Robert Bortuzzo were the D they used in that playoff run.

You need toughness but you also need mobility. You need to win board battles, but you also need to move the puck. I'm not against some balance in the backend as long as they are supporting the weaker parts of the pairings adequately.

It's why I keep saying that having someone who can be mean and make space for Marner would help him immensely. You need skill, but you all need grit - all over the ice.
- Monkeypunk

I doubt it cause of his play - he is much softer than every dman you listed by an IKEA mile. Even softer than the Gunner who could get guests from time to time. He plays scared. Even Keefe took a little dig in playoffs (not this last but previous) by saying he looked like he was rushing his passes too much because if the space out there….thats coach for he was scared.

Aaron had the right thought I think - it is a tradable contract and that more than likely what they will do unless Lily decided to not be a flower anymore out there (not likely).

pair him with Zadorov. all good
- drexel

After Tanev, where are you getting any kind of money for big Z ??

I doubt it cause of his play - he is much softer than every dman you listed by an IKEA mile. Even softer than the Gunner who could get guests from time to time. He plays scared. Even Keefe took a little dig in playoffs (not this last but previous) by saying he looked like he was rushing his passes too much because if the space out there….thats coach for he was scared.

Aaron had the right thought I think - it is a tradable contract and that more than likely what they will do unless Lily decided to not be a flower anymore out there (not likely).
- Big23Questions

WTF?

I doubt it cause of his play - he is much softer than every dman you listed by an IKEA mile. Even softer than the Gunner who could get guests from time to time. He plays scared. Even Keefe took a little dig in playoffs (not this last but previous) by saying he looked like he was rushing his passes too much because if the space out there….thats coach for he was scared.

Aaron had the right thought I think - it is a tradable contract and that more than likely what they will do unless Lily decided to not be a flower anymore out there (not likely).
- Big23Questions

Dunn is not hard nor intense. Neither was Gunnarsson at all. Bortuzzo? Bouwmeester took a long time to learn how to compete and even then, if we're all honest with ourselves, was never all that good at it. He learned how to position himself to play to his own strengths.

I'm not, in any way, advocating for Liljegren as a difficult guy to play against - I'm just saying that not everyone on your team needs to be a knuckle dragging clown.

Me like Leafs

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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2m
Patrick Kane and the Red Wings closing in on a one-year deal

First, this site is complete shiite without an adblocker. What a fuking gross representation of greed on Ek's part. Not even functional cuz he's trying to cram so many fuking ads on one page. I would never come back to this site again if MiB just started a blog page with comment section and a less gross amount of ads.

(psst MiB fuk greedy, impostor Kreskin, Ek, let's goooo!!!)

Domi signing is great. 4 years is perfect for him to relax and play his game without looking over his shoulder for another contract all the time. $ amount is easy peasy.

Lily signing sucks. He's the exact type of player the Leafs should be dumping fast. Hoping this is a sign and trade move.

Tanev possibility makes me nervous. Old and injury prone so hope there is at least one more legit guy like him that doesn't break as much.

All the other RFAs being given offers is a good sign Tree is making moves. Get everyone locked up first, set their value and make some tradezzzz.


I like this D:

Rielly, Tanev (Klingberg's $)
Zadorov (TJ's $), Roy (Lily's $3m plus $2m from the available)
Beniot, McCabe
Webber, Timmins

That line up is approx $22-24M and would solid AF! Not much more expensive that last season.

That D would definitely get it done. Let's go Tree!

First, this site is complete shiite without an adblocker. What a fuking gross representation of greed on Ek's part. Not even functional cuz he's trying to cram so many fuking ads on one page. I would never come back to this site again if MiB just started a blog page with comment section and a less gross amount of ads.

(psst MiB fuk greedy, impostor Kreskin, Ek, let's goooo!!!)

Domi signing is great. 4 years is perfect for him to relax and play his game without looking over his shoulder for another contract all the time. $ amount is easy peasy.

Lily signing sucks. He's the exact type of player the Leafs should be dumping fast. Hoping this is a sign and trade move.

Tanev possibility makes me nervous. Old and injury prone so hope there is at least one more legit guy like him that doesn't break as much.

All the other RFAs being given offers is a good sign Tree is making moves. Get everyone locked up first, set their value and make some tradezzzz.


I like this D:

Rielly, Tanev (Klingberg's $)
Zadorov (TJ's $), Roy (Lily's $3m plus $2m from the available)
Beniot, McCabe
Webber, Timmins

That line up is approx $22-24M and would solid AF! Not much more expensive that last season.

That D would definitely get it done. Let's go Tree!
- underhill14

Yeah this site somehow gets less functional, which is actually impressive.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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2m
Patrick Kane and the Red Wings closing in on a one-year deal
- GreatGigInTheSky

They can move him for futures at the deadline.

Yeah this site somehow gets less functional, which is actually impressive.
- Zezel

I was being nice, it's actually not functional at all with the ads.

Bullpoop rumors and you get spammed with an Ad Bukake fest. That's crossing the line.

Had to go take a shower after trying to post with the wife's iPad.

via GIPHY

I was being nice, it's actually not functional at all with the ads.

Bullpoop rumors and you get spammed with an Ad Bukake fest. That's crossing the line.

Had to go take a shower after trying to post with the wife's iPad.

via GIPHY

- underhill14

Lol that Arrested Development bit is so classic.

Business as usual - same old same old Leaf approach to roster construction. Running it back HARD. Why would anyone be surprised?
- fifty__missions

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Business as usual - same old same old Leaf approach to roster construction. Running it back HARD. Why would anyone be surprised?
- fifty__missions

Aren't you the guy sucking Tree off for drafting a RHD but also admonishing Dubas for drafting a RHD in lily?

You wear real rose colored goggles and it shows. Be objective for once and maybe people will take anything you say seriously.

Dunn is not hard nor intense. Neither was Gunnarsson at all. Bortuzzo? Bouwmeester took a long time to learn how to compete and even then, if we're all honest with ourselves, was never all that good at it. He learned how to position himself to play to his own strengths.

I'm not, in any way, advocating for Liljegren as a difficult guy to play against - I'm just saying that not everyone on your team needs to be a knuckle dragging clown.
- Monkeypunk

Just get 5 Gudas' and a hall of famer like Doughty.

On the Campbell thing, meh if they signed him as Martin Jones but I can see him going to be a back up somewhere for a couple million.

Dunn is not hard nor intense. Neither was Gunnarsson at all. Bortuzzo? Bouwmeester took a long time to learn how to compete and even then, if we're all honest with ourselves, was never all that good at it. He learned how to position himself to play to his own strengths.

I'm not, in any way, advocating for Liljegren as a difficult guy to play against - I'm just saying that not everyone on your team needs to be a knuckle dragging clown.
- Monkeypunk

Man, I think Lily is soft. Looks scared. Dunn does not. Just my opinion from watching the game. It’s not about laying guys out - it’s about how they manage the puck under pressure…from being hit. I don’t think the 2 dmen are a comparable in that regard. As I said I get it cause Lily is a puck moving dman - I just would think Tre could’ve gotten or at least it would be better to one with some bite.

I don’t know about the knuckle dragging thing - frankly I don’t think there are any in league anymore. Most if not all scrappers can play the game especially on d.

Also, would never call them clowns. I’m not sure how many NHL Super Stars past and present need to point out their worth before non hockey types stop thinking they aren’t needed. Staged fights aren’t needed. Guys that will cruise around like bombers are.

WTF?
- Atomic Wedgie

?

IKEA Swedish - Lily Swedish. Just making a joke man or trying to.

On the Campbell thing, meh if they signed him as Martin Jones but I can see him going to be a back up somewhere for a couple million.
- Aaron_85

No way in hell he gets $2M.

The ceiling on his salary is whatever can be buried in the A next year without cap hit.