i don't know.
- anti-lame

seems odd for someone so close to the Org. Another one from your earlier post. you mentioned they are trying to win w "their guys" right? Who are their guys?

another one from your earlier post. you mentioned they are trying to win w "their guys" right? Who are their guys?
- Flyfly

their gms, their former players, their draft picks, no outside help. it is what it is.

as for cutter - a lot of folks don't know what exactly went down. not really surprising.

MBFlyers fan is the one who said "high level exec" which is why i laughed.

hello it's me likes his popcorn vendor theory.

it's definitely somewhere in between

but it makes no difference since it's not true, right MJL?

I love that Anti-Lame isn’t allowed to use his father’s as clout, who may or may not work in the Flyers organization but in the same way many of you use Bill’s quotes as clout. I’ve got news for most of you. We know Bill is in the locker and the pressers and he still has strong opinions some differ with and we also know Bill is no stranger to attacking posters if they disagree with him. Just ask BiggE. Heck, Bill is practically Morgan Frost’s part time bodyguard.

Nobody under age 55 calls Danny B, “Danny Boy”.

That is all…
- roenick97

Mr. Layoffs

I love that Anti-Lame isn’t allowed to use his father’s as clout, who may or may not work in the Flyers organization but in the same way many of you use Bill’s quotes as clout. I’ve got news for most of you. We know Bill is in the locker and the pressers and he still has strong opinions some differ with and we also know Bill is no stranger to attacking posters if they disagree with him. Just as BiggE. Heck, Bill is practically Morgan Frost’s part time bodyguard.
- roenick97

Yeah what’s the deal with that guy? He came in during the draft ragging on anyone that hated the pick. I smell another Colangelo situation.

it's actually better if you don't believe me tbh.

what false narratives? I said there was a major rift in the locker room, a Giroux camp and a Hayes camp that was very obvious to those around the team. I said this before G was even traded. A year later it's the first thing Torts mentioned about the team. Look how all that played out.
- anti-lame

you're speaking to a black hole. Culture, locker room, these are antiquated instagibles of a game long since gone. Now the only thing that matters is talent, if you have talent you automatically win

you're speaking to a black hole. Culture, locker room, these are antiquated instagibles of a game long since gone. Now the only thing that matters is winning and talent
- jd250

locker room and culture mean nothing which is why Colorado gave us a 1st to get RyJo out of their room

you're speaking to a black hole. Culture, locker room, these are antiquated instagibles of a game long since gone. Now the only thing that matters is talent, if you have talent you automatically win
- jd250

it certainly helps, no?

Yeah what’s the deal with that guy? He came in during the draft ragging on anyone that hated the pick. I smell another Colangelo situation.
- hereticpride

if you're talking about me, it's less about people not liking our pick or wanting Buium instead blah blah blah

my issue was that everyone spoke in absolutes when in reality very few to none of the people posting here know a single thing about either player. probably didn't even watch clips of either player. they take mock drafts as gospel and can't come up with an original thought regarding it - there was zero time between the pick and thinking thoughtfully about any of it. doom-posting went zero to 100 based on very little information.

yes, it had nothing to do with getting a 1st round pick right?
- Flyfly

do you think sean walker by himself was worth a first round pick?

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...-johansen-out-of-colorado

maybe it's on the coach for not "making it work"

Next years draft we need to weaponize our picks like SJ and CHI did.


Example,

Trade Col 1st, 2nd 3rd and move up into top 15.
Trade Edm 1st,2nd,2nd and move up into top 10-13


Along with our pick that would be 3 players to help speed up the rebuild, still looking like 5 years + to do it right. Missing no1 center & defenseman and they need to get experience.
- Flyerloon

peoplle gonna see all our picks and ask for a randsom. Its already a randsom to get into the top 5 if not impossible. Makes it very important to be drafting top 6-7. Going from outside of top 10 into the top 5 aint cheap

if you're talking about me, it's less about people not liking our pick or wanting Buium instead blah blah blah

my issue was that everyone spoke in absolutes when in reality very few to none of the people posting here know a single thing about either player. probably didn't even watch clips of either player. they take mock drafts as gospel and can't come up with an original thought regarding it - there was zero time between the pick and thinking thoughtfully about any of it. doom-posting went zero to 100 based on very little information.
- anti-lame

on the bright side, from camp today, seems Luchanko is as fast as advertised and Bonk and Barkey have good things to say about him. DB's first draft wave will be MM, then Barkey, Bonk and then Luchanko. There is more but you hope they hit and they surprise, and maybe a later pick hits too. An optimist might think that DB, with how he played, might recognize the goods, or maybe he consulted with JD or stayed at a holiday in prior to the draft

do you think sean walker by himself was worth a first round pick?
- anti-lame

Prob not but if we are all about building a culture why bring in RyJo? From the whispers he is a dolt of a teammate. Why even bring him in if he is such an issue? There wasn't another trade out there for Walker?

https://thehockeywriters.com/zeev-buium-2024-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/

Not the most credible source but I did come across articles touting him as high as 2.

To be fair most of the top 10 were ranked from 2-10 but the point is he was grouped with them. You can’t really get much higher of projection other than #1 Maybe your standards are too high lol
- Stayin alive

Thats the march rankings, need to pull some may or june rankings. I havent seen anything showing him going that high

The second MM signed his deal we should of fired Torts and signed Coach Q to our team. Tort teaching MM how to play hockey is down right challenged thinking.

The coach who knows zero about offense they want to take a gifted scorer and turn him into a blocking and checking machine. WTF!!!!

I don't want him playing torts square defense, and the longer torts is around the longer it will take for MM to get better. Benching someone who is learning doesn't work for me. He will make mistakes just like we all do but you need to balance the mistakes against what he brings to the offense. If he makes a bad play but makes 3 good plays then it is a win, and after a while the bad plays get less and less.

I want MM to not worry about blocking shots , I want him driving play forward and making all his team mates better because he gets the opposing teams out of position and plays open up. Any other thinking on how to coach MM is wrong.
- Flyerloon

You mean coach Q from Chicago? The coach who failed to do anything after learning one of his trainers raped a player?

Mr. Layoffs
- hereticpride

What does that mean?

Prob not but if we are all about building a culture why bring in RyJo? From the whispers he is a dolt of a teammate. Why even bring him in if he is such an issue? There wasn't another trade out there for Walker?
- Flyfly

check out the link i posted above. we only got the 1st for walker because we were taking him off their hands. i don't think there were better options otherwise we'd take them. with Torts history with RyJo there was no way he was playing - especially if the reason he's leaving is that he disrupted their room.

look how much walker got on the open market. that's an indication that he was never going to get a 1st by himself. even with taking RyJo I'd say we still sold high on a guy that was a dud in the playoffs for the Avs.

check out the link i posted above. we only got the 1st for walker because we were taking him off their hands. i don't think there were better options otherwise we'd take them. with Torts history with RyJo there was no way he was playing - especially if the reason he's leaving is that he disrupted their room.

look how much walker got on the open market. that's an indication that he was never going to get a 1st by himself. even with taking RyJo I'd say we still sold high on a guy that was a dud in the playoffs for the Avs.
- anti-lame

I agree we would not get a first and we sold high. I love the move on it's face just not sure DB had any other offers. Totally get taking back a cap dump. I also loved trading out of the 2nd pick in the first round for next year. See, I can and do give compliments when they are deserved.

So Ottawa had to pay the blues a 3rd rounder to take a young bottom 6 forward with two years left at a 2.95 AAV who just scored 35 points. Is that right?

And DB wants a 1st round pick for Laughton?

Hopefully Ottawa is opening up some room for either TK or laughts

I agree we would not get a first and we sold high. I love the move on it's face just not sure DB had any other offers. Totally get taking back a cap dump. I also loved trading out of the 2nd pick in the first round for next year. See, I can and do give compliments when they are deserved.
- Flyfly

some here would rather talk about my dad and I’d rather talk about the team.

The second MM signed his deal we should of fired Torts and signed Coach Q to our team. Tort teaching MM how to play hockey is down right challenged thinking.

The coach who knows zero about offense they want to take a gifted scorer and turn him into a blocking and checking machine. WTF!!!!

I don't want him playing torts square defense, and the longer torts is around the longer it will take for MM to get better. Benching someone who is learning doesn't work for me. He will make mistakes just like we all do but you need to balance the mistakes against what he brings to the offense. If he makes a bad play but makes 3 good plays then it is a win, and after a while the bad plays get less and less.

I want MM to not worry about blocking shots , I want him driving play forward and making all his team mates better because he gets the opposing teams out of position and plays open up. Any other thinking on how to coach MM is wrong.
- Flyerloon

I agree 100%. The Flyers specialize in taking a thoroughbred and making him into a plow horse. Before you can run, you have to learn to plow.

Oh boy buchnevich getting 8 per over 6 years??

Good signing for TK

you're speaking to a black hole. Culture, locker room, these are antiquated instagibles of a game long since gone. Now the only thing that matters is talent, if you have talent you automatically win
- jd250

You're partially right and mostly wrong. Here is what you don't understand and probably never will. It's not that issues like culture, locker room and all the other buzzwords that the Flyers throw around don't matter. It's that it won't amount to anything without talent and skill. When you acquire the right talent level and skill, along with the right mix of support and role players. That is what will build a winning culture. The talent and skill has to come first. Not the other way around as you think and are so easily sold on by the Flyers marketing. Gullible fans such as yourself are who they target with those buzzwords and marketing ploy.

I agree 100%. The Flyers specialize in taking a thoroughbred and making him into a plow horse. Before you can run, you have to learn to plow.
- MJL

I will say that it does make me a little worried DB said all of these things about michkov needing to earn it and that's Torts decision...

However...

considering what it took to get him here, and considering we just got shafted by Cutter...

isn't it possible he's publically saying this for optics so that they can do the exact opposite and just let him play without seeming like hypocrites? GMs lie.

"He's in there because he has earned it. I am definitely NOT telling Torts he has to play no matter what. See, Cutter? All you had to do was earn it."

Just a thought. If they mess with him or start sitting him I will be pissed and want the coach fired.

I will say that it does make me a little worried said all of these things about michkov needing to earn it and that's Torts decision...

However...

considering what it took to get him here, and considering we just got shafted by Cutter...

isn't it possible he's publically saying this for optics so that they can do the exact opposite and just let him play without seeming like hypocrites? GMs lie.

"He's in there because he has earned it. I am definitely NOT telling Torts he has to play no matter what. See, Cutter? All you had to do was earn it."

Just a thought. If they mess with him or start sitting him I will be pissed and want the coach fired.
- anti-lame

I think from DBs standpoint it was about optics. Torts on the other hand is a huge question mark.