So he had surgery and doesn't need anything else done to him.

Don't see the issue here at all. Even if he needs another month or so who cares.

Sounds like he had the surgery before playoff time.
- Santo_44

Listed day to day and never came back. He may earn a trust but he doesn’t get it for free. They’re not going to cut a $3 mill d man for a $1.5 one regularly either.

Surgery procedures are very common for NHL players as well...he had it done months ago.

Nothing to see here.
- Santo_44

yeah, and reading into it, it's just a less obtrusive method of inserting a scope, so they might not have found anything in there that required actual surgery.

Matt Murray was extended. I don’t see the numbers yet though.
- bryant

They've been placed on LTIR preemptively.

Listed day to day and never came back. He may earn a trust but he doesn’t get it for free. They’re not going to cut a $3 mill d man for a $1.5 one regularly either.
- Dozzer

They have 7 NHL D plus Timmins and they will use all of them. Like every team.

I mean, that sounds like the procedure went ok to me...

Again, I don't know how Simmons would somehow get his hands on the post-op diagnosis/report and the Leafs wouldn't.
- gravyface

Sounds questionable still, listed day to day and never came back. Also they won’t routinely cut Liljegren, a guy making twice as much, for him on a regular basis.

They've been placed on LTIR preemptively.
- Scabeh

Is MM a they/them?

yeah, and reading into it, it's just a less obtrusive method of inserting a scope, so they might not have found anything in there that required actual surgery.
- gravyface

Yeah not surprised Simmons is the lone writer or insider talking about it.

Sounds questionable still, listed day to day and never came back. Also they won’t routinely cut Liljegren, a guy making twice as much, for him on a routine basis.
- Dozzer

If their D is healthy all season fantastic.

It won't happen though.

Is MM a they/them?
- Whipper

"I don't see the numberS" was the quote.

But I also didn't want to assume the gender obviously.

Just think of the LTIR 💰

Hakanpaa
Woll
Tanev
Glassthews
Headache boy
Murray

Might as well bring Klingon back

Just think of the LTIR 💰

Hakanpaa
Woll
Tanev
Glassthews
Headache boy
Murray

Might as well bring Klingon back
- mr.sir

Headache boy is going to be sidelined with headaches all year from constantly getting yelled at by his coach.

2-0 Oranje!!!

Sounds questionable still, listed day to day and never came back. Also they won’t routinely cut Liljegren, a guy making twice as much, for him on a regular basis.
- Dozzer

Recovery time on that procedure is 6-8 weeks, so he may have been super close before they lost the series.

But I agree: I think the Leafs absolutely plan on carrying 8 defensemen if they can.

Headache boy is going to be sidelined with headaches all year from constantly getting yelled at by his coach.
- Horsey Sauce

What's it like being a social pariah on here?

Recovery time on that procedure is 6-8 weeks, so he may have been super close before they lost the series.

But I agree: I think the Leafs absolutely plan on carrying 8 defensemen if they can.
- gravyface

I could see them trading Timmins and bringing in a league minimum guy as the 8th D.

Another Benoit where Tre sees potential.

Don't see the point on having 1.1M as the 8th guy.

What's it like being a social pariah on here?
- gravyface

Like I’m doing the lords work.

I feel like that antagonist at the end of inspector gadget petting his cat.

What's it like being a social pariah on here?
- gravyface

He may be an idiot but he’s not a fish. That’s going too far.

What Simmons was saying was true. He missed the end of last season and didn’t get into the post season due to this injury. He didn’t get much attention as a free agent either. Multiple people reported this in the spring as well.

Benoit will be the third pairing guy this year too, he was only top 4 last season due to a lack of anything better.

Rielly Tanev
OEL McCabe
Benoit Liljegren
Timmins
Hakanpaa who might just take one of the LTIR spots.
- Dozzer

All of this is nonsense Dozz.

Rielly, Tanev

Beniot, McCabe
Our best pairing last season will not be broken up, no way. Beniot was there in the top 4 last season because he deserved it and delivered, that pairing played well for the Leafs. Late bloomer, perhaps? Finally got the right opportunity with the right partner, perhaps?

OEL, Hawkintuah
Perfect LD/RD match. One offensive, one more defensive.


Lily is gone for a 3C. Book it.

Also, Hawkintuah is not broken. Fuk Simmons. He had the same surgery as so many others have had and the recovery time of 4-6 weeks suggests it was more of a minor surgery as opposed to a major injury.

He may be an idiot but he’s not a fish. That’s going too far.
- Canada Cup

Nice insult.

Very,,, insulty.

Blais (history with Berube)
Comtois
Pearson
Cousins
Addison
Atkinson
Nylander
Sprong
Tarasenko
Motte
Clutterbuck
Pacioretty
Foote
Wheeler
Gurianov
Vrana
- mr.sir

Comtois, Tierney and Clutterbuck for the 4th line.

Askarov for the pipeline.

Leafs need a 3rd line shutdown C. That might have to be a trade.

Listed day to day and never came back. He may earn a trust but he doesn’t get it for free. They’re not going to cut a $3 mill d man for a $1.5 one regularly either.
- Dozzer

Look, we'll end up seeing what happens. We've seen cases where a day-to-day issue turns into a far worse issue. We've also seen cases where a day-to-day issue just needs more rest than the player was willing to give the affected area and weren't giving themselves enough time to heal properly.

Day-to-day means, typically, that the team's medical staff, typically in consultation with experts, have concluded that an injury is healing and now it just depends on how long it takes to fully heal and rehab it. The human body does regenerate cartilage. There are a number of procedures in place to stimulate this and if there are problems with that there are surgical procedures, like MACI, which grow cartilage outside of the body and then replace it.

I'll be a bit surprised if this turns out to be anything more than nothingburger.

Same as it ever was.
- fifty__missions

Not so sure. Looking at the moves they made (most notably, resigning Domi), I get the inkling something big is yet to happen. Wouldn't be surprised to see a 2C coming in from a trade.

Comtois, Tierney and Clutterbuck for the 4th line.

Askarov for the pipeline.

Leafs need a 3rd line shutdown C. That might have to be a trade.
- Rare_Jewel

Liljegren, Robertson, Kampf for Kuraly, Jenner, Olivier.

All of this is nonsense Dozz.

Rielly, Tanev

Beniot, McCabe
Our best pairing last season will not be broken up, no way. Beniot was there in the top 4 last season because he deserved it and delivered, that pairing played well for the Leafs. Late bloomer, perhaps? Finally got the right opportunity with the right partner, perhaps?

OEL, Hawkintuah
Perfect LD/RD match. One offensive, one more defensive.


Lily is gone for a 3C. Book it.

Also, Hawkintuah is not broken. Fuk Simmons. He had the same surgery as so many others have had and the recovery time of 4-6 weeks suggests it was more of a minor surgery as opposed to a major injury.
- underhill14

For starters there’s a very new coach, no pairings or lines are guaranteed.

As for the info I’ve provided on the other guy it wasn’t from Simmonds so stop it. It was just how he was “day to day” but never got cleared hence the notable question mark. He’s a 32 year old who will be on the outside of the lineup for the most part not some miracle $1.5 mill guy who takes over for a $3 mill one.

Liljegren, Robertson, Kampf for Kuraly, Jenner, Olivier.
- Horsey Sauce

I'd take Jenner but would rather go with Comtois and Clutterbuck on the wings.