mikeyo27
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Unless someone told him DC is a sh!thole and he’s better off leaving some early money on the table in order to choose where he lives his life. Otherwise why leave Boston if you love it?
I’m not saying he’s jumping ship. I just think it’s hilarious he came out and said Kevin Hayes told me to do this. Did Kevin Hayes pull that as a player? Oh yeah, he did lol - anti-lame
Kinda lends a little credence to the story about Hayes influence with Quitter. Doesn’t prove it to be true but certainly suggests the possibility that the reporter might have been in the ballpark.
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jd250
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The Philadelphia Flyers announced today they re-signed forward Bobby Brink to a two-year contract worth an average annual value (AAV) of $1.5 million, according to General Manager Daniel Brière - Flyfly
It's not a rebuild!! |
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jd250
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Kinda lends a little credence to the story about Hayes influence with Quitter. Doesn’t prove it to be true but certainly suggests the possibility that the reporter might have been in the ballpark. - mikeyo27
I don't think Hayes meant anything detrimental the Learnard, only to take his time and develop properly. Playing another season for a top program like BC is not going to hurt Leonard, but allow him to develop more and be ready for the NHL. Past a 2nd season however and I would then say something is wrong. Anyway, I think this situation is very different than the quitter situation, where Quitter went back to BC for a 2nd season just to stick it to the Flyers and make them trade him. |
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I don't think Hayes meant anything detrimental the Learnard, only to take his time and develop properly. Playing another season for a top program like BC is not going to hurt Leonard, but allow him to develop more and be ready for the NHL. Past a 2nd season however and I would then say something is wrong. Anyway, I think this situation is very different than the quitter situation, where Quitter went back to BC for a 2nd season just to stick it to the Flyers and make them trade him. - jd250
Still doesn’t get it. He didn’t make Philly do anything. Philly had complete control over whether to trade the player or not. To take it another step further nowhere is there any report that cutter asked or demanded a trade. |
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jd250
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jd250
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Still doesn’t get it. He didn’t make Philly do anything. Philly had complete control over whether to trade the player or not. To take it another step further nowhere is there any report that cutter asked or demanded a trade. - Stayin alive
That's not true. Quitter refused all contact with the Flyers. He left LeClair and Sharp standing at the altar at BC, and refused to meet with Jones and Briere at the world championships. Quitter's camp made it clear to the Flyers that Quitter was not going to sign with the team and worked with Briere on trade destinations. This is well known fact by now. The Flyers didn't have to trade Quitter, but word was already getting out that Quitter did not want to sign with the Flyers and thus other teams would have just waited for Quitter to finish college or offer the Flyers pennies on the dollar in trades. Briere did the best thing he could do and try to get a good young player back in a trade. It was not an ideal situation for the Flyers. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Still doesn’t get it. He didn’t make Philly do anything. Philly had complete control over whether to trade the player or not. To take it another step further nowhere is there any report that cutter asked or demanded a trade. - Stayin alive
I agree the Flyers were in the drivers seat. I do think they should have forced his hand a little more. I understand why they didnt want to do it publicly because right or wrong there was a possibility that the fans would have turned against him and the situation would have become untenable the longer he waited to come to the NHL.
And while there may be no report that he asked for or demanded a trade, I think his actions pretty much telegraphed that anyway.
Regardless of how much power the Flyers had, they were in a bad spot from an optics standpoint. If it got public why Gauthier wasn't coming joining the team, the fans would have turned on him immediately. This is Philly, you know how they are. It may have been worked out in the end. But I doubt it.
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landros 2
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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That's not true. Quitter refused all contact with the Flyers. He left LeClair and Sharp standing at the altar at BC, and refused to meet with Jones and Briere at the world championships. Quitter's camp made it clear to the Flyers that Quitter was not going to sign with the team and worked with Briere on trade destinations. This is well known fact by now. The Flyers didn't have to trade Quitter, but word was already getting out that Quitter did not want to sign with the Flyers and thus other teams would have just waited for Quitter to finish college or offer the Flyers pennies on the dollar in trades. Briere did the best thing he could do and try to get a good young player back in a trade. It was not an ideal situation for the Flyers. - jd250
Or ….devils advocate….more teams would have taken a shot and the Flyers would have had more than one offer had it been out. I didn’t like the return then….and I still don’t. Drysdale is a decent prospect for sure but hasn’t been healthy in 3 years. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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12 years ago today the Wild signed Parise and Suter to identical contracts. This upcoming season they both will account for over 14 million in dead cap. Next season the number finally goes down to 1.666 for the two of them combined, for 4 more seasons.
Thank God they didnt choose the Flyers, even if those offers tied their hands and they lost Jagr as a result.
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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12 years ago today the Wild signed Parise and Suter to identical contracts. This upcoming season they both will account for over 14 million in dead cap. Next season the number finally goes down to 1.666 for the two of them combined, for 4 more seasons.
Thank God they didnt choose the Flyers, even if those offers tied their hands and they lost Jagr as a result. - MBFlyerfan
That was a crazy offseason! The Flyers never expected Nashville to match the Weber offer sheet and, once they did, all of Philly’s plans fell apart. |
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mikeyo27
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2014
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For those open minded on this forum, I think this is a great explanation for why Briere chose Luchenko over Buium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QVeSqObUsI - jd250
I’ve admitted many times I didn’t know anything about these prospects other than what the experts said and many on this blog knew from following the junior leagues. That being said, I hope this kid developed in to a player worthy of such a high pick. His draft +1 will be a decent indication. |
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I agree the Flyers were in the drivers seat. I do think they should have forced his hand a little more. I understand why they didnt want to do it publicly because right or wrong there was a possibility that the fans would have turned against him and the situation would have become untenable the longer he waited to come to the NHL.
And while there may be no report that he asked for or demanded a trade, I think his actions pretty much telegraphed that anyway.
Regardless of how much power the Flyers had, they were in a bad spot from an optics standpoint. If it got public why Gauthier wasn't coming joining the team, the fans would have turned on him immediately. This is Philly, you know how they are. It may have been worked out in the end. But I doubt it. - MBFlyerfan
See I don’t buy that for a second. That’s not what reality is that’s what illogical and pushed narrative trains people to think to excuse decisions made.
For example it’s no different than contract negotiations between players/teams. Things get said neither want to hear.
Fear of it getting out to the fanbase? No offense but please. You actually believe the team cares about that? Do they care when base is screaming to trade a player? Or fire a coach? Or whatever? No they don’t. They care about filling seats.
Would the fans been screaming if it got out cutter ghosting them? Yes 100% they would
And if Philly opened up and said hey this is what’s going on… but we have his rights and we aren’t trading him. We aren’t giving up this great asset. He can choose to sit in college for 4 years if he chooses.
Again cutter wasn’t going to do that. No top prospect giving up that money. He would’ve came to table when he realized at end of college season it was no money or sign
And the team would’ve said all is well and just a misunderstanding and all love and flowers. And the fans would’ve been back in love with him and with every goal he scores they’d be standing cheering.
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twotoekenn
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Location: perkasie, PA Joined: 12.16.2009
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See I don’t buy that for a second. That’s not what reality is that’s what illogical and pushed narrative trains people to think to excuse decisions made.
For example it’s no different than contract negotiations between players/teams. Things get said neither want to hear.
Fear of it getting out to the fanbase? No offense but please. You actually believe the team cares about that? Do they care when base is screaming to trade a player? Or fire a coach? Or whatever? No they don’t. They care about filling seats.
Would the fans been screaming if it got out cutter ghosting them? Yes 100% they would
And if Philly opened up and said hey this is what’s going on… but we have his rights and we aren’t trading him. We aren’t giving up this great asset. He can choose to sit in college for 4 years if he chooses.
Again cutter wasn’t going to do that. No top prospect giving up that money. He would’ve came to table when he realized at end of college season it was no money or sign
And the team would’ve said all is well and just a misunderstanding and all love and flowers. And the fans would’ve been back in love with him and with every goal he scores they’d be standing cheering. - Stayin alive
For whatever reason that kid didn't want to play for the flyers. I don't care if it was torts or Hayes. If he didn't want to be here he should've announced that pre draft and there wouldn't be a problem. The change of heart is his responsibility.
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That's not true. Quitter refused all contact with the Flyers. He left LeClair and Sharp standing at the altar at BC, and refused to meet with Jones and Briere at the world championships. Quitter's camp made it clear to the Flyers that Quitter was not going to sign with the team and worked with Briere on trade destinations. This is well known fact by now. The Flyers didn't have to trade Quitter, but word was already getting out that Quitter did not want to sign with the Flyers and thus other teams would have just waited for Quitter to finish college or offer the Flyers pennies on the dollar in trades. Briere did the best thing he could do and try to get a good young player back in a trade. It was not an ideal situation for the Flyers. - jd250
Still doesn’t get it…
“The flyers didn’t have to trade quitter”
It begins and ends there. All the rest is just excuses for the flyers decision to trade him. It was a knee jerk immature move that only is biting them in the ass. Plain and simple.
Things would’ve played out much better for all had flyers handled it like a professional organization. For all we know maybe cutter was told when drafted he’d be signed after 1st year of college? Maybe he had a right to be pissed. But that wouldn’t excuse him ghosting them either. |
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For whatever reason that kid didn't want to play for the flyers. I don't care if it was torts or Hayes. If he didn't want to be here he should've announced that pre draft and there wouldn't be a problem. The change of heart is his responsibility. - twotoekenn
That doesn’t jive.
1)drafted… said born to be flyer
2) finishes 1st year… WANTS TO SIGN CONTRACT IN MARCH…
So there is no didn’t want to play for flyers. It was simply an immature act to ghost flyers because he was pissed.
And in March at end of 2nd college season he would’ve changed tune and signed and made up BECAUO TOP PROSPECT IS GONNA SIT IN COLLEGE FOR 4 YEARS AND RISK INJURY AND BYPASS ALL THE MONEY NOWADAYS THAT IS INVOLVED.
It’s really as simple as that.
It’s the same as a player scrubbing their social media and all that bs during contract negotiations and when they sign new contract all the love flows again.
It was a ploy. Now surely cutter didn’t care if he was traded or stay in Philly. What he wanted was to turn pro. Which he did. And now burned first year elc.
That’s all on Philly |
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roenick97
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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So the Flyers sign Bobby Brink at a reasonable price, which is great. So now that’s Konency, Michkov, Tippett, Foerster, Brink and Hathaway. What are we doing here? We have so many right wingers, I don’t even know who or how some of these guys fit.
Farabee-Couturier-Konency
Machkov-Frost-Tippett
Cates-Laughton-Foerster
Deslauriers-Poehling-Hathaway
Brink
Where does Brink go? Not every right wing can play left wing. |
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So the Flyers sign Bobby Brink at a reasonable price, which is great. So now that’s Konency, Michkov, Tippett, Foerster, Brink and Hathaway. What are we doing here? We have so many right wingers, I don’t even know who or how some of these guys fit.
Farabee-Couturier-Konency
Machkov-Frost-Tippett
Cates-Laughton-Foerster
Deslauriers-Poehling-Hathaway
Brink
Where does Brink go? Not every right wing can play left wing. - roenick97
I’d start my with coots until he gets his feet wet |
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Kinda lends a little credence to the story about Hayes influence with Quitter. Doesn’t prove it to be true but certainly suggests the possibility that the reporter might have been in the ballpark. - mikeyo27
Yup. Torts took the high road and defended him… but they all knew |
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bottom line is flyers phuked up not signing Cutter when they should have. simple as that. end of discussion.
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Dkos
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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So the Flyers sign Bobby Brink at a reasonable price, which is great. So now that’s Konency, Michkov, Tippett, Foerster, Brink and Hathaway. What are we doing here? We have so many right wingers, I don’t even know who or how some of these guys fit.
Farabee-Couturier-Konency
Machkov-Frost-Tippett
Cates-Laughton-Foerster
Deslauriers-Poehling-Hathaway
Brink
Where does Brink go? Not every right wing can play left wing. - roenick97
Geez…when you look at that center lineup it’s really depressing. |
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So the Flyers sign Bobby Brink at a reasonable price, which is great. So now that’s Konency, Michkov, Tippett, Foerster, Brink and Hathaway. What are we doing here? We have so many right wingers, I don’t even know who or how some of these guys fit.
Farabee-Couturier-Konency
Machkov-Frost-Tippett
Cates-Laughton-Foerster
Deslauriers-Poehling-Hathaway
Brink
Where does Brink go? Not every right wing can play left wing. - roenick97
it will sort itself out, whats the problem |
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PhillaBully
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.20.2010
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I still think Laughton and to get traded before the season starts. Just a feeling |
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roenick97
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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it will sort itself out, whats the problem - hello it's me 2050
Ohhhhh. So critical of the organization but the real problem is lack of balance in the line up and here you come. Suddenly no problem. It will find its own way.
Real balanced thinking |
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Ohhhhh. So critical of the organization but the real problem is lack of balance in the line up and here you come. Suddenly no problem. It will find its own way.
Real balanced thinking - roenick97
stfu lamont you dumb stupid uneducated turd. yes it will sort itself out corky.
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So the Flyers sign Bobby Brink at a reasonable price, which is great. So now that’s Konency, Michkov, Tippett, Foerster, Brink and Hathaway. What are we doing here? We have so many right wingers, I don’t even know who or how some of these guys fit.
Farabee-Couturier-Konency
Machkov-Frost-Tippett
Cates-Laughton-Foerster
Deslauriers-Poehling-Hathaway
Brink
Where does Brink go? Not every right wing can play left wing. - roenick97
In this scenario they’d run it back with cates Poehling Hathaway and sit DLo. Brink Laughton Forester sounds plausible
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